Bizhub 920: cleaning web motor (M16) does not rotate

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  • ondemandprint
    Technician
    • Sep 2016
    • 87

    Bizhub 920: cleaning web motor (M16) does not rotate

    Cleaning web motor (M16) does not rotates. Web stays in one position, collects dust and then tears after a time. It begin soil an heads of prints (about 5 cm) near before tearing. There is no any motor-based errors as SC33.
    I changed the motor with the same result.

    Service manual says: "I/O check mode" has an 45-6 code for Web motor check but it's marked as "Machines used in Japan only". And it does not work on my regular 920.

    P.S. Is it necessary to use a cleaning web? Will print quality downgrade without it?
  • escalante
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    100+ Posts
    • Sep 2018
    • 115

    #2
    Re: Bizhub 920: cleaning web motor (M16) does not rotate

    What error appears exactly. if it is SC33-05 or SC33-06

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    • ondemandprint
      Technician
      • Sep 2016
      • 87

      #3
      Re: Bizhub 920: cleaning web motor (M16) does not rotate

      No errors. Just do not rotates.
      I checked all gears and reset I both counters: for Web and for Web motor.

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      • escalante
        Trusted Tech

        100+ Posts
        • Sep 2018
        • 115

        #4
        Re: Bizhub 920: cleaning web motor (M16) does not rotate

        Review the ICP17 of the Printer Control Board20190325_114222.jpg

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        • blackcat4866
          Master Of The Obvious

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          10,000+ Posts
          • Jul 2007
          • 22662

          #5
          Re: Bizhub 920: cleaning web motor (M16) does not rotate

          I think that I would find a way to put my meter on the web motor leads to determine if you are getting any voltage to the web motor.

          If there is no voltage you can try to track the harness back to the PRCB, looking for breaks.
          If there is voltage, the motor should have fixed it. Did you examine the gear drive?
          =^..^=
          If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
          1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
          2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
          3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
          4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
          5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

          blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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          • ondemandprint
            Technician
            • Sep 2016
            • 87

            #6
            Re: Bizhub 920: cleaning web motor (M16) does not rotate

            Originally posted by blackcat4866
            Did you examine the gear drive?
            =^..^=
            I've changed an motor with gear on other motor with gear.

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            • Toxic
              Senior Tech

              500+ Posts
              • Dec 2009
              • 690

              #7
              Re: Bizhub 920: cleaning web motor (M16) does not rotate

              Have same problem on 950.
              Did you done this?
              I rotate little more than this marker line is broken and web cleaning start working like it should.
              Never really understand why that was important to do...

              "The performance of a new cleaning web is
              guaranteed on and after the position at which
              the marker line [9] is broken. When installing
              it, be sure to rotate the pin [8] to take it up to
              the position at which the marker line is broken."

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              • Phil B.
                Field Supervisor

                10,000+ Posts
                • Jul 2016
                • 22809

                #8
                Re: Bizhub 920: cleaning web motor (M16) does not rotate

                [QUOTE] P.S. Is it necessary to use a cleaning web? Will print quality downgrade without it? [QUOTE]

                ummmm yes it is. Proper operation of a cleaning WEB-BLADE-BRUSH does what?
                provides PROPER cleaning for said component.

                the web cleans the hot roller of (usually) a high speed copier/printer that duplexes ... in some units they have found a need for a cleaning roller (Al) to properly clean the 18-30ppm machines (ir2200)

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                • 3ktlc
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                  100+ Posts
                  • Feb 2018
                  • 178

                  #9
                  Re: Bizhub 920: cleaning web motor (M16) does not rotate

                  Been a while since I worked on this unit. But, I seem to remember that there was a spring on the web assembly that wold cause that web to bind up. Take off the spring and lube the shaft and reinstall the spring.

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                  • ondemandprint
                    Technician
                    • Sep 2016
                    • 87

                    #10
                    Re: Bizhub 920: cleaning web motor (M16) does not rotate

                    After a 3rd-in-row reinstalling all cables with cleaning on PRCB, IT WORKS!! Some kind of bad contacts.
                    Absolutely annoying!

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                    • ondemandprint
                      Technician
                      • Sep 2016
                      • 87

                      #11
                      Re: Bizhub 920: cleaning web motor (M16) does not rotate

                      Originally posted by Phil B.
                      In some units they have found a need for a cleaning roller (Al) to properly clean the 18-30ppm machines (ir2200)
                      It's some kind of fuser life shortening by design. These Al rollers on Canon 22xx/28xx collects fried toner debris and scrathes fuser's roller. I'm deinstall Al rollers on all Canon 22xx/28xx.

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                      • Phil B.
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                        10,000+ Posts
                        • Jul 2016
                        • 22809

                        #12
                        Re: Bizhub 920: cleaning web motor (M16) does not rotate

                        Originally posted by ondemandprint
                        It's some kind of fuser life shortening by design. These Al rollers on Canon 22xx/28xx collects fried toner debris and scrathes fuser's roller. I'm deinstall Al rollers on all Canon 22xx/28xx.
                        bad idea... they're in place for a reason..remove clean with rubber rejuv.. reinstall.

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