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  • mascan42
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    • Oct 2008
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    #1

    Replace transfer roll/toner filter/ozone filter message

    I have an issue on some 4e series machines where, even though I've turned off the consumable life reminder and set all of the near life warnings to do not display, I still get maintenance messages for the transfer roll and the filters. Is this a firmware issue? Or am I missing a setting somewhere?
  • Phil B.
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    • Jul 2016
    • 22798

    #2
    Re: Replace transfer roll/toner filter/ozone filter message

    Originally posted by mascan42
    I have an issue on some 4e series machines where, even though I've turned off the consumable life reminder and set all of the near life warnings to do not display, I still get maintenance messages for the transfer roll and the filters. Is this a firmware issue? Or am I missing a setting somewhere?
    did you clear the counts on those parts?

    did you replace the parts?

    followed service manual procedures?

    WHAT have you done?

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    • mascan42
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      • Oct 2008
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      #3
      Re: Replace transfer roll/toner filter/ozone filter message

      Obviously I can reset the counters, but I'm talking about not getting the messages in the first place. Changing those settings stops the messages for the big items - drum, developer, fuser, transfer belt - but not the small ones.

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      • Phil B.
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        • Jul 2016
        • 22798

        #4
        Re: Replace transfer roll/toner filter/ozone filter message

        Originally posted by mascan42
        Obviously I can reset the counters, but I'm talking about not getting the messages in the first place. Changing those settings stops the messages for the big items - drum, developer, fuser, transfer belt - but not the small ones.
        how can you clear issues if you don't reset PM counters?

        unless it is a low usage unit you might start getting poor CQ when the parts fail and you will get no message.. customers don't like that.

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        • tsbservice
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          • May 2007
          • 7925

          #5
          Re: Replace transfer roll/toner filter/ozone filter message

          Originally posted by mascan42
          I have an issue on some 4e series machines where, even though I've turned off the consumable life reminder and set all of the near life warnings to do not display, I still get maintenance messages for the transfer roll and the filters. Is this a firmware issue? Or am I missing a setting somewhere?
          Update the FW.
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          • Woxner
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            • Jul 2011
            • 829

            #6
            Re: Replace transfer roll/toner filter/ozone filter message

            these messages for these two parts will always come up. do think firmware will help. they did not put a stop on these. You dont want too on the filter because a clogged filter will cause voltage problems and make it pull dev

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            • copyman
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              • Sep 2005
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              #7
              Re: Replace transfer roll/toner filter/ozone filter message

              Agree with wox. these can't be turned off. The trans roller isn't that important but like wox said the ozone filter is, especially in real dirty enviroments. If real clean office I just reset the counters.

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              • REGSIS
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                • May 2016
                • 434

                #8
                Re: Replace transfer roll/toner filter/ozone filter message

                Originally posted by Woxner
                these messages for these two parts will always come up. do think firmware will help. they did not put a stop on these. You dont want too on the filter because a clogged filter will cause voltage problems and make it pull dev
                I agree. Messages for transfer roller and ozone filter will appear 10% after transfer belt message (if not disabled).
                At this point all these parts are really worn (+300k) and is highly recommended to replace them preventing CQ problem and HV issues (developer leaks).

                I saw the belt counter at 450k but CQ was pretty bad.
                You can just reset the counter and carry on but be aware.
                There is no other way not to display the messages.

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                • tsbservice
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                  • May 2007
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                  #9
                  Re: Replace transfer roll/toner filter/ozone filter message

                  Originally posted by REGSIS
                  I agree. Messages for transfer roller and ozone filter will appear 10% after transfer belt message (if not disabled).
                  At this point all these parts are really worn (+300k) and is highly recommended to replace them preventing CQ problem and HV issues (developer leaks).

                  I saw the belt counter at 450k but CQ was pretty bad.
                  You can just reset the counter and carry on but be aware.
                  There is no other way not to display the messages.
                  Yeah but author stated that all near life and life stop messages are turned OFF in service mode. That is the strange part for me. Apparently he's not seen this on every machine setup like that. Still would like to hear does he solved this and how.
                  A tree is known by its fruit, a man by his deeds. A good deed is never lost, he who sows courtesy, reaps friendship, and he who plants kindness gathers love.
                  Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused.

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                  • dannu
                    Technician
                    • Jun 2016
                    • 25

                    #10
                    Re: Replace transfer roll/toner filter/ozone filter message

                    Originally posted by mascan42
                    I have an issue on some 4e series machines where, even though I've turned off the consumable life reminder and set all of the near life warnings to do not display, I still get maintenance messages for the transfer roll and the filters. Is this a firmware issue? Or am I missing a setting somewhere?
                    Sw 55->0c, 51 ->F0 and unit cahnge ----- service OR User --------all options.

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