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  • Elmojo
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    [Misc] c308 losing network connection, but only for scanning

    Hi all,
    I've searched until my eyes are crossed, but I can't seem to track this one down.
    Also, I've investigated the possibility of it being an issue with SMBv1, but it appears that it's already on on this machine.
    The 'server' at my office is just a windows 7 desktop machine, acting as a file hub for our office.
    The Konica is set up scan to a shared folder on the server, and normally it works just fine.
    However, intermittently, it loses the connection to the scan folder. Sometimes it drops twice a day, sometimes it works fine for several days.
    When it fails, there is an error on the screen, but the office manager can't recall what it is exactly. I'll try to get a photo the next time it happens.
    Oddly, it will sometimes drop in the middle of a multi-page scan job. Rebooting the server fixes it for a while.
    Any idea what this could be?
  • tsbservice
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    Re: c308 losing network connection, but only for scanning

    At what FW version is your machine?
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    • bsm2
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      Re: c308 losing network connection, but only for scanning

      Have you replaced the network cable and changed the port on the network switch?

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      • Elmojo
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        Re: c308 losing network connection, but only for scanning

        Originally posted by tsbservice
        At what FW version is your machine?
        Good question. Is that info viewable via the web interface?
        I'm remote at the moment.
        Also, I've just discovered that it seems that someone has changed the admin login from the default 1-8x2.
        Any idea how to reset it, or if that's even possible remotely?
        The plot thickens...

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        • Elmojo
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          Re: c308 losing network connection, but only for scanning

          Originally posted by bsm2
          Have you replaced the network cable and changed the port on the network switch?
          Unfortunately, that's not an option. Someone (not me!) ran cat5 directly from the server area to the copier room. There are terminated cables hanging out of the wall at both ends. No patch cords, no way to swap them out. Yeah, I know.
          As for the switch, we haven't tried another port specifically, but the switch itself was replaced about a year ago. The issue existed before then, so I'm gonna say that's not the problem...maybe.

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          • bsm2
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            Re: c308 losing network connection, but only for scanning

            Originally posted by Elmojo
            Unfortunately, that's not an option. Someone (not me!) ran cat5 directly from the server area to the copier room. There are terminated cables hanging out of the wall at both ends. No patch cords, no way to swap them out. Yeah, I know.
            As for the switch, we haven't tried another port specifically, but the switch itself was replaced about a year ago. The issue existed before then, so I'm gonna say that's not the problem...maybe.

            Make sure the windows 7 box does not go into energy saver or turns off the hard drive

            Is box using Hostname or static Ipaddress it's not the copier it's the PC that is the issue

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            • BillyCarpenter
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              Re: c308 losing network connection, but only for scanning

              Originally posted by Elmojo
              Unfortunately, that's not an option. Someone (not me!) ran cat5 directly from the server area to the copier room. There are terminated cables hanging out of the wall at both ends. No patch cords, no way to swap them out. Yeah, I know.
              As for the switch, we haven't tried another port specifically, but the switch itself was replaced about a year ago. The issue existed before then, so I'm gonna say that's not the problem...maybe.
              I would do a continuous ping and note if there's any difference in the time or if it's losing connection intermittently.
              Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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              • copier tech
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                Re: c308 losing network connection, but only for scanning

                Originally posted by Elmojo
                Hi all,
                I've searched until my eyes are crossed, but I can't seem to track this one down.
                Also, I've investigated the possibility of it being an issue with SMBv1, but it appears that it's already on on this machine.
                The 'server' at my office is just a windows 7 desktop machine, acting as a file hub for our office.
                The Konica is set up scan to a shared folder on the server, and normally it works just fine.
                However, intermittently, it loses the connection to the scan folder. Sometimes it drops twice a day, sometimes it works fine for several days.
                When it fails, there is an error on the screen, but the office manager can't recall what it is exactly. I'll try to get a photo the next time it happens.
                Oddly, it will sometimes drop in the middle of a multi-page scan job. Rebooting the server fixes it for a while.
                Any idea what this could be?
                This sound like your Win 7 PC/server is possibly going into sleep mode then the LAN card will disconnect.
                Let us eat, drink, and be merry, because tomorrow we may die!

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                • BillyCarpenter
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                  Re: c308 losing network connection, but only for scanning

                  Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                  I would do a continuous ping and note if there's any difference in the time or if it's losing connection intermittently.

                  By the way, I stole that from another member and I'd give them credit if I could remember who it was.
                  Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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                  • tsbservice
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                    Re: c308 losing network connection, but only for scanning

                    Originally posted by Elmojo
                    Good question. Is that info viewable via the web interface?
                    I'm remote at the moment.
                    Also, I've just discovered that it seems that someone has changed the admin login from the default 1-8x2.
                    Any idea how to reset it, or if that's even possible remotely?
                    The plot thickens...
                    Why would anyone change Admin password on your machine? That really doesn't make sense.
                    You can reset it via service mode but that's another story.
                    A tree is known by its fruit, a man by his deeds. A good deed is never lost, he who sows courtesy, reaps friendship, and he who plants kindness gathers love.
                    Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused.

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                    • tsbservice
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                      Re: c308 losing network connection, but only for scanning

                      Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                      By the way, I stole that from another member and I'd give them credit if I could remember who it was.
                      You're learning fast, this is excellent troubleshooting in case of intermittent failures.
                      A tree is known by its fruit, a man by his deeds. A good deed is never lost, he who sows courtesy, reaps friendship, and he who plants kindness gathers love.
                      Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused.

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                      • bsm2
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                        #12
                        Re: c308 losing network connection, but only for scanning

                        Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                        By the way, I stole that from another member and I'd give them credit if I could remember who it was.

                        Good Idea but they would also be getting printing issues as well
                        But the ping command would show it's not the copier

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                        • tsbservice
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                          Re: c308 losing network connection, but only for scanning

                          Originally posted by bsm2
                          Good Idea but they would also be getting printing issues as well
                          It's not compulsory in this case as they're using the Win7 PC mainly for scanning and are printing from different PCs.
                          A tree is known by its fruit, a man by his deeds. A good deed is never lost, he who sows courtesy, reaps friendship, and he who plants kindness gathers love.
                          Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused.

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                          • Blizzoo
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                            Re: c308 losing network connection, but only for scanning

                            If possible I would create/share another scan folder from another PC on the network and monitor what happens scanning there, assuming printing works just fine if using same server?
                            Defects are simple, our mind is complicated

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                            • bsm2
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                              Re: c308 losing network connection, but only for scanning

                              Originally posted by tsbservice
                              It's not compulsory in this case as they're using the Win7 PC mainly for scanning and are printing from different PCs.

                              Thanks for making my point the problem is the one Pc

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