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  • habik
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    • Apr 2010
    • 2015

    [Misc] Have you had this sort of noise from machine?

    Have very noisy C650 with lot of P-21 and dirty copies on sides...haven't checked any bulletins which is my next step right now..just if you had any experience please respond. Thanks

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  • blackcat4866
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    • Jul 2007
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    #2
    It sounds like a polygon mirror motor to me. Are there any other corroborating symptoms? =^..^=
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    5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

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    • fixthecopier
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      • Apr 2008
      • 4712

      #3
      I would check fans . A piece of trash could be vibrating against one of them.
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      • nmfaxman
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        • Feb 2008
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        #4
        Sounds like a brass motor gear turned into a router shaving a nylon gear.
        Go into I/O mode and turn each motor on one at a time.
        Why do they call it common sense?

        If it were common, wouldn't everyone have it?

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        • mo0651
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          • Apr 2009
          • 1054

          #5
          Check out the transfer belt cleaning unit. A piece of paper may be in the cleaning unit binding the driving gears. the gear making that noise is inside the copier on the end where you start your video. it chewed a couple of teeth off. Had this problem and there is a part upgrade for it.

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          • habik
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            • Apr 2010
            • 2015

            #6
            yeap thanks folks ..M38 spindle and gear 55 had a little misunderstanding thanks again.
            I got this vid from my manager, he did not have time to fix it ( yeah right) ..changed the motor and the gear unit ,

            Now I have ghosting issue, on everything, did trouble reset, new transfer belt, initialize+reset stabilization, stabilization, gradation adjust, full..adj value no more than 25 and 6..took some time, registration alignment,,still no luck, with or without fiery, same issue. Cleaned laser gaps, stabilized, Gradation adjust,.....it appear like if the image is being postponed by couple of miliseconds but with a less power, happening on Bk. .suspecting Bk drum...any suggestions. Thanks Credit to NMFAXMAN and mo0651 cheers
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            • copytechman
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              • Nov 2008
              • 910

              #7
              Check age of 2nd transfer roller, they do some strange things when they are shot!

              Regards!
              A.

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              • nmfaxman
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                • Feb 2008
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                #8
                Show us an image if you can.
                Ghosting can be caused by a lot of things. Most common fuser unit.
                Why do they call it common sense?

                If it were common, wouldn't everyone have it?

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                • habik
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                  • Apr 2010
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                  #9
                  Scan ghosting +650.JPGchanged:
                  Fuser
                  2nd Transfer Roller
                  BK IU
                  rewrote Firmware
                  ..now I wonder whether the new transfer belt is not playing up, or being faulty..or the HV unit is playing up aswell.. will post scans in a minute.
                  Last edited by habik; 06-10-2011, 01:22 PM.
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                  • rangertech
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                    • Jun 2011
                    • 40

                    #10
                    i had been seems problem like that but at type 253, and solution : cleaning the second transfer

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                    • habik
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                      • Apr 2010
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                      #11
                      Cleaned, changed 2nd TR for a different one ...not new though, fault remained the same. Cleaned all contacts and earthing points, still no difference .
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                      • mrwho
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                        #12
                        Did you try to thoroughly clean the laser unit glass?
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                        • habik
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                          #13
                          That will be possibly my next step together with reconecting the HV unit, just want to get some more infos whilst waiting for brand new TR. It could be fairly misty inside the LU.
                          .OK Google! ... will I need Berrocca this morning?
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                          • habik
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                            #14
                            Re: Have you had this sort of noise from machine?

                            Originally posted by habik
                            That will be possibly my next step together with reconecting the HV unit, just want to get some more infos whilst waiting for brand new TR. It could be fairly misty inside the LU.
                            OK.

                            My ghosting problem came back again.

                            Cleaned spotlessly everything on 2nd transfer side and it went away for 2 weeks. Now it came back again. Cleaned everything again as before and I was not so lucky this time. Problem still persists. It does not appear however on A4 R (A4 landscape) have not tried A3 yet...


                            see scans below:ghost600dpi.pdf
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                            • Glaander
                              Technician
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 33

                              #15
                              Re: Have you had this sort of noise from machine?

                              those shadow around the print normally is paper dust on the ph laser window, the noise only the ph polygon mirror motor is spins that fast in the machine, so I can say your ph has a page paper or something loose in it.

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