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  • bobe
    Technician
    • Oct 2011
    • 38

    #1

    Network setting missing

    Hy,
    I have a bizhub C451. Network settings are missing in Admin setting and I can't ping it. I also tried to found the Mac address with arp-a but no succes. I reset in Service 1-Data Clear ( Network Reset) but nothing. Do i have to use Firmware Imaging Toolkit 2006 and reset the NIC setting.

    Thanks
  • blackcat4866
    Master Of The Obvious

    Site Contributor
    10,000+ Posts
    • Jul 2007
    • 22941

    #2
    Re: Network setting missing

    I had a machine once that the network settings button would not appear. As an experiment I connected a live network cable, then powered up. To my delight the network settings button appeared, and worked normally. Who knows? I could be that easy. =^..^=
    If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
    1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
    2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
    3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
    4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
    5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

    blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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    • bobe
      Technician
      • Oct 2011
      • 38

      #3
      Re: Network setting missing

      should I try to connect direct to copier with my laptop.Do you think is the network isues? I reset the copier many times and I unplugged the network cable.

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      • blackcat4866
        Master Of The Obvious

        Site Contributor
        10,000+ Posts
        • Jul 2007
        • 22941

        #4
        Re: Network setting missing

        Sure. That's a good idea. A lot of laptops do not require a crossover cable now, but mine does. Try it that way first. Of course you'll have to set a static address in the same range as the copier to your laptop. =^..^=
        If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
        1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
        2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
        3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
        4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
        5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

        blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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        • bobe
          Technician
          • Oct 2011
          • 38

          #5
          Re: Network setting missing

          I printed the Configuration page and I have the IP and Mac address, but the copier is not in the network. It's strange because anothers tabs are mising not just network settings but also One-Touch/User Box

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          • blackcat4866
            Master Of The Obvious

            Site Contributor
            10,000+ Posts
            • Jul 2007
            • 22941

            #6
            Re: Network setting missing

            Here's another thought, tell me if this database entry sounds applicable:



            In this case several of the Utility/Counter buttons were missing. =^..^=
            If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
            1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
            2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
            3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
            4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
            5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

            blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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            • bobe
              Technician
              • Oct 2011
              • 38

              #7
              Re: Network setting missing

              I have the problem with Ricoh worst cables on DSm 520. About Konica I will try tommorow to connect direct with the network cable to the copier. I downloaded the firmware for NIC reset and I hope it's gonna work. Thanks

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              • TheOwl
                Service Manager

                Site Contributor
                1,000+ Posts
                • Nov 2008
                • 1732

                #8
                Re: Network setting missing

                On Konica Minoltas that are plugged into the network, it does take some time for the Network Settings button to appear because the machines are set to DHCP out of the factory and the machines do wait some time before they class the DHCP attempt as failed.

                If you enter in a static IP address into the machine and then turn it off and on again without the network cable, you will then find that the Network Settings button appears a lot quicker.

                As for the One Touch/User Box, go into service mode and make sure that the HDD is set to Installed. If this doesn't help, then login into the Administrator Settings and get into the One Touch/User Box from there. Sometimes, depending on the method used, this button disappears from the standard menu when using authentication on the machine.
                Please don't ask me for firmware or service manuals as refusal often offends.

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                • morpk
                  Technician

                  50+ Posts
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 97

                  #9
                  Re: Network setting missing

                  Hi Guys i get this all the time with Konica installs,
                  If the machine is set to DHCP it sends a ARP request to the DHCP server, if theydont talk the you need to wait for the ARP to time out then the Network settings button will appear after the ARP request fails then you can manually enter network settings, just check that you are getting lights on the copiers network card, also when first powering on the machine i can take a 1 minute or the network card to initialize.

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                  • JR2ALTA
                    Service Manager

                    Site Contributor
                    1,000+ Posts
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 2028

                    #10
                    Re: Network setting missing

                    Originally posted by bobe
                    Hy,
                    I have a bizhub C451. Network settings are missing in Admin setting and I can't ping it. I also tried to found the Mac address with arp-a but no succes. I reset in Service 1-Data Clear ( Network Reset) but nothing. Do i have to use Firmware Imaging Toolkit 2006 and reset the NIC setting.

                    Thanks
                    Konica's go braindead, it's just part of them sucking and all.

                    You have two options

                    One: call Konica, send in NVRAM, fill out paperwork, receive said NVRAM, fill out more paperwork, be on your way.

                    Two: try what knowledge base says and do an all clear but mind you your machine will go back to an assembly line state

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                    • bobe
                      Technician
                      • Oct 2011
                      • 38

                      #11
                      Re: Network setting missing

                      hey , we just fixed. We connect direct with the laptop to the copier and with arp-s found the IP.

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