a line produced when making a copy on glass 454e !

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  • jakani
    Trusted Tech
    100+ Posts
    • Dec 2014
    • 147

    a line produced when making a copy on glass 454e !

    hi all
    when client make copy on the adf it goes normal buy when making it on the glass it produce a weird line on top , i checked the glass nothing on it it's clean !
    have anyone ever experienced this problem , what could be causing it ?
    any suggestion would be appreciated
    here is a sample :Scan1.PDF
  • minimerlin
    Senior Tech
    Site Contributor
    500+ Posts
    • Nov 2007
    • 851

    #2
    Re: a line produced when making a copy on glass 454e !

    Originally posted by jakani
    hi all
    when client make copy on the adf it goes normal buy when making it on the glass it produce a weird line on top , i checked the glass nothing on it it's clean !
    have anyone ever experienced this problem , what could be causing it ?
    any suggestion would be appreciated
    here is a sample :[ATTACH]28880[/ATTACH]
    Which is the feed direction? Have you checked and cleaned the optics path?
    Please do not PM me without asking first.

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    • blackcat4866
      Master Of The Obvious
      Site Contributor
      10,000+ Posts
      • Jul 2007
      • 22545

      #3
      Re: a line produced when making a copy on glass 454e !

      The fact that the line tapers leads me to believe that it's primary charge related. Charge related lines can vary in thickness, whereas optics related lines tend to stay the exact same thickness.

      If you still think it's optical though, make sure that your scan rails are properly lubricated. A dry rail can cause the light source to tip, changing image focus, and perhaps exposing a fleck of dust it wouldn't ordinarily see. =^..^=
      If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
      1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
      2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
      3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
      4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
      5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

      blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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      • epintotox
        the noob one
        • Mar 2015
        • 14

        #4
        Re: a line produced when making a copy on glass 454e !

        Originally posted by jakani
        hi all
        when client make copy on the adf it goes normal buy when making it on the glass it produce a weird line on top , i checked the glass nothing on it it's clean !
        have anyone ever experienced this problem , what could be causing it ?
        any suggestion would be appreciated
        here is a sample :[ATTACH]28880[/ATTACH]
        try scan to pc using adf and platen glass. see got line or not. if still got, try copy using platen glass, see the light is on or not during copy.

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        • allan
          RTFM!!
          5,000+ Posts
          • Apr 2010
          • 5402

          #5
          Re: a line produced when making a copy on glass 454e !

          Scan something white that is bigger than the platen glass. like BC said the fact that it tapers is weird. That then could mean that there is light shining in there. Turn your entire machine by 90 degrees and make a copy.
          Whatever

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          • imihm
            Technician
            50+ Posts
            • Feb 2014
            • 77

            #6
            Re: a line produced when making a copy on glass 454e !

            Originally posted by jakani
            hi all
            when client make copy on the adf it goes normal buy when making it on the glass it produce a weird line on top , i checked the glass nothing on it it's clean !
            have anyone ever experienced this problem , what could be causing it ?
            any suggestion would be appreciated
            here is a sample :[ATTACH]28880[/ATTACH]

            Hi there.


            Check debris or spot on the exposure lamp.

            Thanks

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            • emujo
              Field Supervisor
              2,500+ Posts
              • Jun 2009
              • 3009

              #7
              Re: a line produced when making a copy on glass 454e !

              Originally posted by allan
              Scan something white that is bigger than the platen glass. like BC said the fact that it tapers is weird. That then could mean that there is light shining in there. Turn your entire machine by 90 degrees and make a copy.




              not sure how rotating MFP helps, but hey, maybe KM needs to put this step in the trouble shooting guide...Emujo
              If you don't see your question answered in the forum, please don't think it's OK to PM me for a personal reply...I do not give out firmware and/or manuals.

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              • darry1322
                Senior Tech
                Site Contributor
                500+ Posts
                • Oct 2010
                • 816

                #8
                Re: a line produced when making a copy on glass 454e !

                Originally posted by emujo
                [/B]
                not sure how rotating MFP helps, but hey, maybe KM needs to put this step in the trouble shooting guide...Emujo
                allan was referring to the possibility of a light source shining into the optics. Turning the machine can block that external source.

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                • emujo
                  Field Supervisor
                  2,500+ Posts
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 3009

                  #9
                  Re: a line produced when making a copy on glass 454e !

                  OK, now I can see how that might help...We usually just run the non image area erase test, if it fails then we might suspect a extraneous light source. Emujo
                  If you don't see your question answered in the forum, please don't think it's OK to PM me for a personal reply...I do not give out firmware and/or manuals.

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                  • jakani
                    Trusted Tech
                    100+ Posts
                    • Dec 2014
                    • 147

                    #10
                    Re: a line produced when making a copy on glass 454e !

                    hi all
                    thanks for your suggestions ,
                    when i went to try out these solutions , i found that the problem vanished without doing anything
                    the suggestions where great and useful

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                    • blackcat4866
                      Master Of The Obvious
                      Site Contributor
                      10,000+ Posts
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 22545

                      #11
                      Re: a line produced when making a copy on glass 454e !

                      Originally posted by jakani
                      hi all
                      thanks for your suggestions ,
                      when i went to try out these solutions , i found that the problem vanished without doing anything
                      the suggestions where great and useful
                      ... and unnecessary. Hopefully it won't bounce back right away. =^..^=
                      If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                      1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                      2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                      3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                      4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                      5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                      blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                      • Iowatech
                        Not a service manager
                        2,500+ Posts
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 3933

                        #12
                        Re: a line produced when making a copy on glass 454e !

                        Fair warning - the last Konica equipment I worked on was analog, so what follows might be nonsense.
                        Still, if that machine has a CCD and moving carriages in the scanner, that line most likely was caused by dust on the mirrors under the platen glass. As the scanning carriages distance from the CCD changes, so does the width of the shadow from the dust on the mirror change on the CCD.
                        It might not hurt to have someone who knows what they are doing clean the inside of the scanner. Usually, the parts underneath the platen glass are pretty fragile.
                        Sorry if that was a waste of time.

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