About Reset Tools

[techsxge]

Hi,

i've stumbled across a few posts by now stating that there are no known reset tools for newer machines.
Because i was bored a bit today i decided to take a look into it
I've extracted the tar files content and checked it for any difference.

For your understanding, i'll share the content of all INDEX Files inside the tar:

A145FW.tar


@WVU
@TYP=GaiaPF
@VER=A0P00Y0-F000-F00-07(00)
@RGA=FF87C436DCFB428074C76B335F2D9E4326099761390D0 5B7E5D80A01F8330D79
@SID=0,ID=000001,NM=000002,OP=0
@MAT=0,ID=000003,NM=000002,OP=0
@BST=0,ID=000005,NM=000002,OP=0
@OAT=0,ID=000007,NM=000002,OP=0
@LDR=0,ID=000018,NM=000002,OP=0
@STP=0,ID=000020,NM=000020,OP=0
@MS1=0,ID=000062,NM=000036,OP=1
@MS2=0,ID=000098,NM=000036,OP=0
@MSC=0,ID=000134,NM=000120,OP=1
@MSG=0,ID=000254,NM=000120,OP=0
@AP0=0,ID=000374,NM=000026,OP=1
@AP1=0,ID=000400,NM=000060,OP=1
@AP2=0,ID=000460,NM=000020,OP=1
@AP3=0,ID=000480,NM=000016,OP=1
@AP4=0,ID=000496,NM=000024,OP=1
@IBR=0,ID=000520,NM=000028,OP=1
@IID=0,ID=000548,NM=000003,OP=1
@IPF=0,ID=000551,NM=000006,OP=1
@IMY=0,ID=000557,NM=000014,OP=1
@FO1=0,ID=000571,NM=000020,OP=1
@FO2=0,ID=000591,NM=000032,OP=1
@FO3=0,ID=000623,NM=000160,OP=1
@BS1=0,ID=001012,NM=000005,OP=0
@BS2=0,ID=001017,NM=000005,OP=0
@MA1=0,ID=001022,NM=000001,OP=0
@MA2=0,ID=001023,NM=000001,OP=0
@END


A61FFW.tar
@WVU
@TYP=ZeusBK
@VER=A0P00Y0-F000-F00-07(00)
@RGA=FF87C436DCFB428074C76B335F2D9E4326099761390D0 5B7E5D80A01F8330D79
@SID=0,ID=000001,NM=000002,OP=0
@MAT=0,ID=000003,NM=000002,OP=0
@BST=0,ID=000005,NM=000002,OP=0
@OAT=0,ID=000007,NM=000002,OP=0
@LDR=0,ID=000018,NM=000002,OP=0
@STP=0,ID=000020,NM=000020,OP=0
@MS1=0,ID=000062,NM=000036,OP=1
@MS2=0,ID=000098,NM=000036,OP=0
@MSC=0,ID=000134,NM=000120,OP=1
@MSG=0,ID=000254,NM=000120,OP=0
@AP0=0,ID=000374,NM=000026,OP=1
@AP1=0,ID=000400,NM=000060,OP=1
@AP2=0,ID=000460,NM=000020,OP=1
@AP3=0,ID=000480,NM=000016,OP=1
@AP4=0,ID=000496,NM=000024,OP=1
@IBR=0,ID=000520,NM=000028,OP=1
@IID=0,ID=000548,NM=000003,OP=1
@IPF=0,ID=000551,NM=000006,OP=1
@IMY=0,ID=000557,NM=000014,OP=1
@FO1=0,ID=000571,NM=000020,OP=1
@FO2=0,ID=000591,NM=000032,OP=1
@FO3=0,ID=000623,NM=000160,OP=1
@BS1=0,ID=001012,NM=000005,OP=0
@BS2=0,ID=001017,NM=000005,OP=0
@MA1=0,ID=001022,NM=000001,OP=0
@MA2=0,ID=001023,NM=000001,OP=0
@END


A55VFW.tar
@WVU
@TYP=MinervaBK
@VER=A0P00Y0-F000-F00-07(00)
@RGA=FF87C436DCFB428074C76B335F2D9E4326099761390D0 5B7E5D80A01F8330D79
@SID=0,ID=000001,NM=000002,OP=0
@MAT=0,ID=000003,NM=000002,OP=0
@BST=0,ID=000005,NM=000002,OP=0
@OAT=0,ID=000007,NM=000002,OP=0
@LDR=0,ID=000018,NM=000002,OP=0
@STP=0,ID=000020,NM=000020,OP=0
@MS1=0,ID=000062,NM=000036,OP=1
@MS2=0,ID=000098,NM=000036,OP=0
@MSC=0,ID=000134,NM=000120,OP=1
@MSG=0,ID=000254,NM=000120,OP=0
@AP0=0,ID=000374,NM=000026,OP=1
@AP1=0,ID=000400,NM=000060,OP=1
@AP2=0,ID=000460,NM=000020,OP=1
@AP3=0,ID=000480,NM=000016,OP=1
@AP4=0,ID=000496,NM=000024,OP=1
@IBR=0,ID=000520,NM=000028,OP=1
@IID=0,ID=000548,NM=000003,OP=1
@IPF=0,ID=000551,NM=000006,OP=1
@IMY=0,ID=000557,NM=000014,OP=1
@FO1=0,ID=000571,NM=000020,OP=1
@FO2=0,ID=000591,NM=000032,OP=1
@FO3=0,ID=000623,NM=000160,OP=1
@BS1=0,ID=001012,NM=000005,OP=0
@BS2=0,ID=001017,NM=000005,OP=0
@MA1=0,ID=001022,NM=000001,OP=0
@MA2=0,ID=001023,NM=000001,OP=0
@END




What we notice here is the following:
TYP= is different for all tools. But except for some greek gods i was not able to find anything about those Names on the internet.
I am currently going through firmware and moviedata files to find the TYP= definition. My hope is to be able to take/modify this part and insert it in firmware of newer i-models for example.
As the settings are all pretty much the same over multiple series, i only slightly doubt that they changed. However, it is very likely that the values or whole procedure changed as konica did not bother to make a new tool yet.
As a field tech, it would be nice to have it on a stick though.

I'll post news about this as soon as i get them.
If anyone got more information especially on the TYP= please share it with me

[B0265]

[blackcat4866]

Re: About Reset Tools

Those are Series Names or Family Names.

Minerva 0Bk is a bizhub 754
Minerva 1Bk is bizhub 654

ZeusS BK1st is bizhub 308, 368, 458, 558
ZeusS BK2nd is bizhub 308e, 368e, 458e, 558e, 658e


The A145FW.tar file is for the bizhub C754 (Minerva 0)/C754e/C654 (Minerva 1)/C654e/C554 (Zeus X)/C554e
/C454 (Zeus 0)/C454e (Zeus0 MLK)/C364 (Zeus 1)/C364e (Zeus1 MLK)/C284 (Zeus 2)/C284e (Zeus2 MLK)/C224 (Zeus 3)/C224e (Zeus3 MLK).
I don't have a reference for: GaiaPF ... so I cannot offer you a suggestion as how to edit that series name.

Gaia is the Earth Goddess or an AlphardI Gaia (Kyocera KM-3500i, KM-4500i, KM-5500i).

This is only interesting trivia ... probably won't help you with your task. =^..^=

[Hansoon]

Re: About Reset Tools

Because i was bored a bit today i decided to take a look into it

Thanks.
Great, when you are bored from time to time...... lol

Hans

[techsxge]

Re: About Reset Tools

Those are Series Names or Family Names.

Minerva 0Bk is a bizhub 754
Minerva 1Bk is bizhub 654

ZeusS BK1st is bizhub 308, 368, 458, 558
ZeusS BK2nd is bizhub 308e, 368e, 458e, 558e, 658e


The A145FW.tar file is for the bizhub C754 (Minerva 0)/C754e/C654 (Minerva 1)/C654e/C554 (Zeus X)/C554e
/C454 (Zeus 0)/C454e (Zeus0 MLK)/C364 (Zeus 1)/C364e (Zeus1 MLK)/C284 (Zeus 2)/C284e (Zeus2 MLK)/C224 (Zeus 3)/C224e (Zeus3 MLK).
I don't have a reference for: GaiaPF ... so I cannot offer you a suggestion as how to edit that series name.

Gaia is the Earth Goddess or an AlphardI Gaia (Kyocera KM-3500i, KM-4500i, KM-5500i).

This is only interesting trivia ... probably won't help you with your task. =^..^=

This i actually good information to confirm what i suspected, thanks.
I still need to find where it is located in firmware/software of the MFPs so i can work out a patch for it.
Thanks for the information, it is very usefull


Luckily Konica Made all their stuff opensource

Opensource | KONICA MINOLTA

[jotunn]

Re: About Reset Tools

Kids, you are going to hurt yourselves... but even worse, you are going to hurt others as well.

techsxge, you shouldn't and I shouldn't too...

@TYP=GaiaPF
@TYP=ZeusSoC - C224e
@TYP=ZeusBK - BH224e-BH554e
@TYP=Minerva2nd -
@TYP=MinervaBK - BH654e
@TYP=MinervaSBK - BH758
@TYP=M_BK_2nd - BH654e
@TYP=Zeus5BK - BH227, BH368, BH458, BH758
@TYP=_ZeusSBK_12_PF - BH368
@TYP=Helios - C227
@TYP=HeliosMLK - C287i
@TYP=ZeusS - C227, C308
@TYP=Z_S - C308
@TYP=Eagle_12 - C250i, C287i
@TYP=SparrowMFP_12 - C4050i/C3350i/C3320i
@TYP=SparrowAIO2_SFP12 - C3320i/C4000i/C3300i

[blackcat4866]

Re: About Reset Tools

Kids, you are going to hurt yourselves... but even worse, you are going to hurt others as well.

techsxge, you shouldn't and I shouldn't too...

@TYP=GaiaPF
@TYP=ZeusSoC - C224e
@TYP=ZeusBK - BH224e-BH554e
@TYP=Minerva2nd -
@TYP=MinervaBK - BH654e
@TYP=MinervaSBK - BH758
@TYP=M_BK_2nd - BH654e
@TYP=Zeus5BK - BH227, BH368, BH458, BH758
@TYP=_ZeusSBK_12_PF - BH368
@TYP=Helios - C227
@TYP=HeliosMLK - C287i
@TYP=ZeusS - C227, C308
@TYP=Z_S - C308
@TYP=Eagle_12 - C250i, C287i
@TYP=SparrowMFP_12 - C4050i/C3350i/C3320i
@TYP=SparrowAIO2_SFP12 - C3320i/C4000i/C3300i

Please excuse me for recognizing a missing piece: How should the .tar file be named, to be properly recognized by the specific model?

(And thank you for information. I promise only to harm myself with this information.) =^..^=

[emujo2]

Re: About Reset Tools

Luckily, for the most part updating firmware, reset files, LDD, movie data, it's all "Sailor Proof". I'm sure you will find a way to brick your machine before too long. I can't wait for the "can anyone help me fix this tragic accident?????"

[tulintron]

Re: About Reset Tools

Jotunn is right about the models. The gods set the models.


But opening an index file in Notepad doesn't show what it is capable of doing.


If you open it in programming software, you'll see how much you've written and the infinite chances of going wrong if you don't know what to do

[techsxge]

Re: About Reset Tools

Luckily, for the most part updating firmware, reset files, LDD, movie data, it's all "Sailor Proof". I'm sure you will find a way to brick your machine before too long. I can't wait for the "can anyone help me fix this tragic accident?????"

I have a few machines dont are physically not able to print stuff anymore that i can use for some try & error.
Anyways, as long as KM publishes their original os, you can almost all the time recover stuff

[jotunn]

Re: About Reset Tools

Anyways, as long as KM publishes their original os, you can almost all the time recover stuff

I have to disappoint you, KM only publishes what it needs to (some parts based on Open Source software) - far from a whole, complete system.
Most of their software is their own proprietary work, so they don't need to publish anything.

Imagine Linux based real-time operating system, used to lauch their own enormous closed-source application supporting scanning, printing, copying, network, usb, website and so on.

[Ricardo_Reis]

Hey guys! do you know what the file name of the konica c227 reset tool is?

[femaster]

Hey guys! do you know what the file name of the konica c227 reset tool is?

a789be.tar is what I'm seeing. Looks like it's the same for the 7, 8, 8e, 9, and 0i models. At that rate, I'd have to guess that it would also work for the new 1i models as well.

[Ricardo_Reis]

a789be.tar is what I'm seeing. Looks like it's the same for the 7, 8, 8e, 9, and 0i models. At that rate, I'd have to guess that it would also work for the new 1i models as well.

I tested the "a789be.tar" file and it didn't work on the c227.

[femaster]

I tested the "a789be.tar" file and it didn't work on the c227.

It's definitely a color 227?

I'll have to dig some more in order to verify, as that is the file we have saved for both the Color and B&W 7-series. There is an exception with the B&W in that the reset tool does not work on the early (pre-revision) version of the B&W 7-series.

EDIT: After doing some more research, that reset tool is the correct one. How old is the firmware on the machine you are trying to run it on? The ability to use the rest tool was added via a later firmware version, and I believe it also required an update to the Boot ROM. I'm not sure at the moment which revision of the firmware or BootROM it needs to be on to enable the ability to use the reset tool, but I'll update again if I find it. Just to add to the previous bit above, the pre-revision B&W models can not be updated in any form to give them the ability to boot to the reset tool.