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  • Pixtech Frameworks
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    • May 2020
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    #1

    No black on colour prints and colour test page on ricoh mpc4503

    Good Day All,
    Has anyone come across sudden black disappearance both on colour prints, colour test page and even counter page, even after swapping PCDU image still remains same. Attached is sample.
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  • slimslob
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    #2
    Re: No black on colour prints and colour test page on ricoh mpc4503

    It could be the K transfer roller in the ITB assembly. If the cam that lifts it when the ITB assembly is latched in place fails, you get either no black or very weak black.

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    • RicohBoomer
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      • May 2022
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      #3
      Re: No black on colour prints and colour test page on ricoh mpc4503

      If you interrupt the job and check the drum physically, can you see traces of the print image on it?
      It is likely what Slim said and something is off with the ITB/Black transfer roller. If all the other colors are fine then it can really only be these two things as everything else should affect all colors.

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      • Pixtech Frameworks
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        Re: No black on colour prints and colour test page on ricoh mpc4503

        Originally posted by slimslob
        It could be the K transfer roller in the ITB assembly. If the cam that lifts it when the ITB assembly is latched in place fails, you get either no black or very weak black.
        Tried switching with another ITB still the same no black.

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        • Pixtech Frameworks
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          Re: No black on colour prints and colour test page on ricoh mpc4503

          Originally posted by RicohBoomer
          If you interrupt the job and check the drum physically, can you see traces of the print image on it?
          It is likely what Slim said and something is off with the ITB/Black transfer roller. If all the other colors are fine then it can really only be these two things as everything else should affect all colors.
          Tried interrupting the Printing, no traces of black image on DU or ITB.

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          • RicohBoomer
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            • May 2022
            • 40

            #6
            Re: No black on colour prints and colour test page on ricoh mpc4503

            Originally posted by Pixtech Frameworks
            Tried interrupting the Printing, no traces of black image on DU or ITB.
            Does the drum rotate at all? I assume it does because I think it throws an SC code if it doesn't rotate.
            I guess the only other thing I can point to is the power pack that charges each respective transfer roller. If you have another machine to pick from you could try replacing that and see if it changes anything.
            Although only one color breaking and with no SC code to boot is pretty rare.

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            • ccchuah
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              Re: No black on colour prints and colour test page on ricoh mpc4503

              confirm the dv tank are rotating, check the two white gear from the front side of pcdu are turning.
              If not turning check the solenoid at the back that controlling the black dv tank motor.

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              • Pixtech Frameworks
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                Re: No black on colour prints and colour test page on ricoh mpc4503

                Originally posted by RicohBoomer
                Does the drum rotate at all? I assume it does because I think it throws an SC code if it doesn't rotate.
                I guess the only other thing I can point to is the power pack that charges each respective transfer roller. If you have another machine to pick from you could try replacing that and see if it changes anything.
                Although only one color breaking and with no SC code to boot is pretty rare.
                Drum rotates even when I initialize TD sensor black it completes. Where's is the powerpack located.

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                • Pixtech Frameworks
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                  #9
                  Re: No black on colour prints and colour test page on ricoh mpc4503

                  Originally posted by ccchuah
                  confirm the dv tank are rotating, check the two white gear from the front side of pcdu are turning.
                  If not turning check the solenoid at the back that controlling the black dv tank motor.
                  DV tank is rotating even at TD Initialization sc3030-003 it rotates while cheating on the front door

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                  • RicohBoomer
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                    • May 2022
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                    #10
                    Re: No black on colour prints and colour test page on ricoh mpc4503

                    Originally posted by Pixtech Frameworks
                    Drum rotates even when I initialize TD sensor black it completes. Where's is the powerpack located.
                    You have to loosen the controller box and swing it out and then you'll see this red marked PCB.
                    Once you get there you can't really miss it.
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                    • Pixtech Frameworks
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                      Re: No black on colour prints and colour test page on ricoh mpc4503

                      Originally posted by RicohBoomer
                      You have to loosen the controller box and swing it out and then you'll see this red marked PCB.
                      Once you get there you can't really miss it.
                      I have swapped part with an old machine part, problem still the same

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                      • luca72
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                        #12
                        Re: No black on colour prints and colour test page on ricoh mpc4503

                        Originally posted by Pixtech Frameworks
                        I have swapped part with an old machine part, problem still the same
                        if you try to turn with finger the black developer unit rear gear , the magnetic roller turn?
                        "loneliness is an invention of the white man, when we are alone we talk to everything around us, we are never alone" (Ojibwa)

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                        • Codex
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                          #13
                          Re: No black on colour prints and colour test page on ricoh mpc4503

                          +1 for BK development unit, some worn out gear, the motor turns normally , but the magnetic roller doesnt turn.
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                          • Pixtech Frameworks
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                            Re: No black on colour prints and colour test page on ricoh mpc4503

                            Originally posted by luca72
                            if you try to turn with finger the black developer unit rear gear , the magnetic roller turn?
                            It turns perfectly.

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                            • Pixtech Frameworks
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                              Re: No black on colour prints and colour test page on ricoh mpc4503

                              Originally posted by Codex
                              +1 for BK development unit, some worn out gear, the motor turns normally , but the magnetic roller doesnt turn.
                              I have swapped PCDU still the same no black

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