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  • SalesServiceGuy
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    #196
    Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

    The new internet privacy laws that were approved at the end of the Obama administration and cancelled by President Trump's new Executive Order of this week, had not yet come into enforcement. Therefore, nothing has really changed here.

    ISP's and other large corporations are free to data mine your internet browsing history for the purposes of marketing and profit.

    The one thing you need to know about your internet privacy in the Trump era is to lower your expectations.
    Last edited by SalesServiceGuy; 04-01-2017, 11:55 PM.

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    • SalesServiceGuy
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      I think one of President Trump's biggest challenges going forward is dealing with the Freedom Caucus. Not only does he have to battle Democrats to push his legislative agenda forward, he has to confront the Freedom Caucus, formerly known as the Tea Party supported by large pools of "dark money" from the Koch brothers.

      "The partisan turf war involves the ragtag group of far-right Republicans who refused to support Trump's American Health Care Act. On Thursday, he threatened to dash their 2018 re-election chances as punishment for derailing his push for health-care reform.

      But instead of atoning, the ultra-conservative agitators responded to Trump's words with gleeful taunting.

      Congressional experts struggled to make sense of why Trump risked alienating the Republican faction, given the math in the House. More than 30 members are believed to comprise the House Freedom Caucus, out of 240 Republican seats. Trump's bills wouldn't reach the 218 votes needed for passage without the bloc's support. "On any issue of which the Republicans have given up on securing votes, the Freedom Caucus is pivotal," said Sarah Binder, a senior fellow in governance studies at the Brookings Institution. It's also clear they know their defiant role, which supports measures observing pure conservative orthodoxy and makes them power brokers in the lower chamber.


      The defiant Freedom Caucus Republicans represent districts in solidly red states. Many of those legislators were Trump defenders during the presidential campaign. Many Freedom Caucus members also outran Trump in their districts. Their re-election chances in the 2018 midterms would appear safe, despite Trump suggesting he might back primary challengers to oppose them. Days before the vote collapsed last Friday, the president visited the Capitol. He told Freedom Caucus chairman Mark Meadows his bloc had better fall in line. Trump wanted Meadows to endorse the health bill.
      Or else? "Mark, I'm coming after you," Trump warned, according to the Hill Times.

      Trump's problem is he doesn't have any leverage in the form of political capital, says Alan Wiseman, a Vanderbilt University professor who has researched legislative strategy and effectiveness in Congress. The president faces historically dismal poll numbers, a conservative opposition whose popularity in their districts surpasses his, and a disinclination to strike deals with Democrats in a deeply polarized Congress.

      "A reasonable interpretation for what he's doing is that he and his advisers believe that his policy agenda really represents the will of the constituents of the Freedom Caucus," Wiseman says. "By going public with his displeasure of the Freedom Caucus, I'm assuming that he assumes his constituents will put increased pressure on them to bargain with the president."
      That strategy could also "backfire dramatically," Wiseman adds, as many of the Freedom Caucus members already enjoy strong local backing.

      Trump's legislative landscape looks rough. Research has long shown that a president's influence over Congress is closely related to public approval ratings.

      Wiseman notes Trump's poll results are hardly inspiring. His support dipped to 35 per cent in a Gallup Daily Tracking survey last week
      "For a president to get members of Congress to vote for things they don't want to vote for, the president has to at least be popular," Wiseman says. Without adequate political cover, Republican representatives would have no incentive to back the president's agenda, says Molly Reynolds, a senior fellow in governance studies with the Brookings Institution.
      She sees a certain irony at play, noting that Trump is being restrained by the very anti-establishment forces that helped vault him to the White House. Since its inception in 2015, the Freedom Caucus has had a mindset of persistent opposition while a Democratic president, Barack Obama, was in charge, Reynolds says.

      Its resistance now to Trump is "consistent with the identity the Freedom Caucus fashioned for itself," Reynolds says. Only now, the president — the darling of anti-establishment Republicans in 2016 — is opposing the anti-establishment Republicans of 2017.
      "So much of what the Freedom Caucus tried to do over time was hold the House leadership's feet to the fire. I'm not terribly surprised some of them have a similar posture towards Trump."
      Now that Republicans control both chambers and the White House, Reynolds says, "they're having to make this transition from being an opposition party to being a governing party."

      http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-health-care-freedom-caucus-1.4050847


      Like President Obama, most of President Trump's meaningful changes to America will likely be via the power of Executive Action orders that do not require votes from neither the Freedom Caucus nor Democrats.

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      • Iowatech
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        #198
        Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

        Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
        The new internet privacy laws that were approved at the end of the Obama administration and cancelled by President Trump's new Executive Order of this week, had not yet come into enforcement. Therefore, nothing has really changed here.

        ISP's and other large corporations are free to data mine your internet browsing history for the purposes of marketing and profit.

        The one thing you need to know about your internet privacy in the Trump era is to lower your expectations.
        .
        Just one more reason that personal responsibility is important to a free society.
        (Sorry about the clip. I couldn't find the one from the movie "Spawn", which is much better.)
        Last edited by Iowatech; 04-02-2017, 03:32 AM. Reason: I've been here long enough, you'd think I'd get this done on the first try by now.

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        • Copier Addict
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          Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

          Originally posted by theengel
          Regarding the browsing history:

          I believe there's kind of a cultural difference here. The American way of thinking, is that nothing goes to waste. I don't mean environmentally... I mean monetarily. If a manufacturer is throwing out a ton of waste product every month, you can bet your ass he's gonna search for a way to SELL that waste instead of tossing it. If I understand the history, that's why we have fluoride in the water. It's a waste product. (that's what I was told by someone, anyway... I could be dead wrong about it.) My point is, that we look at every aspect of a business to figure out how we can make MORE money. Maximize every part of it to pull something in.

          Data is worth a lot of money. Most people look at it as personal history, but not everyone does. Marketers look at it as statistics. And they can predict behavior by studying it. So they can see what search and browsing behaviors are going to turn into purchasing behaviors. That's all this is. No one is tracking a specific person. No one is sharing "personal information." What's being shared is statistics.

          Now for some hard truths. You're paying an ISP. You use their service to access the WWW. If the contract allows for them to share your browsing information (statistics), there shouldn't be any law against it. If someone wants greater privacy, they should find a company who doesn't share the information. In fact, that would be a good selling point for a new ISP. But Obama's law directly interferes with the market. Data sharing is what makes internet access cheaper and cheaper, and government has no right putting their hands into it.
          It always surprises me how little value some people put on their personal privacy. To believe a company is actually lowering the price of their product just because they are also selling your browsing history is not realising just how greedy share holders are.

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          • Tricky
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            #200
            Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

            Originally posted by theengel

            Now for some hard truths. You're paying an ISP. You use their service to access the WWW. If the contract allows for them to share your browsing information (statistics), there shouldn't be any law against it. If someone wants greater privacy, they should find a company who doesn't share the information. In fact, that would be a good selling point for a new ISP. But Obama's law directly interferes with the market. Data sharing is what makes internet access cheaper and cheaper, and government has no right putting their hands into it.
            Well that's one way of looking at it, personally I feel your browsing history, even if they say its just statistics is personal to you. Suppose you looked up a medical condition and an insurance company that you later phoned knew of this.

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            • slimslob
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              Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

              If you are overly concerned about your browsing history, you could try using an anonymizer service.

              Anonymouse.org

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              • Iowatech
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                #202
                Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

                Originally posted by slimslob
                If you are overly concerned about your browsing history, you could try using an anonymizer service.

                Anonymouse.org
                Tor might help.

                You apparently can get it from here, too:

                Download Tor Browser for free. Browser for using Tor on Windows, Mac OS X or Linux. Tor Browser enables you to use Tor on Windows, Mac OS X, or Linux without needing to install any software. Tor is a software that bounces your communications around a distributed network of relays run by volunteers.


                But you probably should check this out first:



                I use Tor maybe once or twice a year, it's based on the Firefox browser.
                Oh, one other thing - Sourceforge is a good place to look for open source software (a little like github), but there is some weird stuff there, too. So be careful if you choose to explore there.
                Last edited by Iowatech; 04-03-2017, 12:34 AM. Reason: Open source sources warning.

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                • Geo
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                  #203
                  Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

                  Originally posted by slimslob
                  If you are overly concerned about your browsing history, you could try using an anonymizer service.

                  Anonymouse.org
                  Have you used this service...if yes , can you share your experience?

                  Thanks Much

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                  • slimslob
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                    Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

                    Originally posted by Geo
                    Have you used this service...if yes , can you share your experience?

                    Thanks Much
                    At the time I tried it, I was still in the Army Reserves. Military websites blocked it.

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                    • Iowatech
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                      #205
                      Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

                      Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
                      The new internet privacy laws that were approved at the end of the Obama administration and cancelled by President Trump's new Executive Order of this week, had not yet come into enforcement. Therefore, nothing has really changed here.

                      ISP's and other large corporations are free to data mine your internet browsing history for the purposes of marketing and profit.

                      The one thing you need to know about your internet privacy in the Trump era is to lower your expectations.
                      Didn't the UK's snooper charter allow for that a while ago?
                      Sorry for my bad English.

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                      • Tricky
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                        #206
                        Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

                        Originally posted by slimslob
                        If you are overly concerned about your browsing history, you could try using an anonymizer service.

                        Anonymouse.org
                        You need to pay for a vpn and they range from about 4$ a month upward, free ones aint worth bothering with.

                        Originally posted by Iowatech
                        Tor might help.
                        Tor is slow but still a good privacy tool

                        Originally posted by Iowatech
                        Didn't the UK's snooper charter allow for that a while ago?
                        Sorry for my bad English.
                        No The UK snooper charter requires
                        I use a VPN so my history is useless.

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                        • Iowatech
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                          #207
                          Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

                          Originally posted by skynet
                          You need to pay for a vpn and they range from about 4$ a month upward, free ones aint worth bothering with.



                          Tor is slow but still a good privacy tool





                          No The UK snooper charter requires


                          I use a VPN so my history is useless.
                          Thanks for clearing that up. It's one of the stupid things about being here, ever since drama has been shown to sell, overly dramatic stuff makes up a good deal of the news out here on the periphery. At least this part, anyway. And that makes it hard to see what's going on everywhere else.

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                          • SalesServiceGuy
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                            Very shameful of the White House to blame today's chemical attack on the Syrian people on the Obama administration!

                            The White House claims that the Obama administration declared "a red line in the sand' if the Assad gov't crossed it with chemical weapons and then did nothing when Syrian President Assad crossed that line. The White House forgot to mention that Obama immediately began negotiating with world leaders and Russia immediately stepped in and prevented further attacks. I know Russia is no friend of the USA but the chemical attacks did stop and no US lives were lost and no treasure was spent.

                            USA Secretary of State Rex Tillerson recently publicly stated that the Syrian people would have to determine their own fate (implying that the USA would not get involved). This emboldened the Assad regime to strike back at its citizens as it felt no direct consequences of the last attack.

                            This sends a stark and disheartening message. If the USA is going to allow this kind of devastating violence on unarmed civilians to go forward, what has happened to the humanity that America is meant to uphold? What has happened to America's moral high ground?

                            The White House should act like the most powerful nation on earth and take charge of the situation rather than try to pass the blame onto the past administration.
                            Last edited by SalesServiceGuy; 04-05-2017, 03:07 AM.

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                            • Iowatech
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                              Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

                              Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
                              The White House should act like the most powerful nation on earth and take charge of the situation rather than try to pass the blame onto the past administration.
                              Why?
                              Besides, you are kind of sounding more like Russian interference, if that isn't the case you might want to tone it down a bit.
                              Heh.
                              Last edited by Iowatech; 04-05-2017, 02:13 AM.

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                              • SalesServiceGuy
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                                No!!! It is a banned chemical weapons attack on an innocent civilian population. This is a war crime!

                                If President Trump truly has any balls, he should announce on 48 hours notice a cruise missile attack on Bashar Assad's palace completely destroying it!

                                48 hours is plenty of time to assemble the forces and evacuate the palace.

                                The White House just criticized the Obama administration for doing nothing. It is time for Donald Trump to lead and not just talk. If the White House does nothing they can't blame Obama any more.

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