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  • Phil B.
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    #736
    Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

    Originally posted by copier addict
    He was basically giving the white supremacist a free pass by not even mentioning him, and also spreading the blame for the killing to both sides.
    Do you think white supremacy is a good thing? Are you a white supremacist?
    A question like that sounds just as silly coming from me as it does coming from you
    President Trump came out 3 different times and denounced the acts of the WS person... and YES he did blame the members of AntiFa and BLM for their actions... who else do you want him to denounce on this matter?

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    • Copier Addict
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      #737
      Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

      Originally posted by Phil B.
      President Trump came out 3 different times and denounced the acts of the WS person... and YES he did blame the members of AntiFa and BLM for their actions... who else do you want him to denounce on this matter?
      Sorry, I should have been more specific. He didn't condemn the white supremacist without a lot of prodding from a lot of people. Instead, he chose to blame people who were not responsible for the young woman's death.

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      • Geo
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        #738
        Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

        [QUOTE=copier addict;591028]
        Originally posted by Geo

        Nope! All he had to do was condemn the white supremacist that drove the car intentionally into another human being and killed her.
        Again it's your interpretation and your dissatisfaction with the choice of words...Seems Trumps statement didn't have the proper P.C. nomenclature.

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        • Phil B.
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          #739
          Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

          Originally posted by copier addict
          Sorry, I should have been more specific. He didn't condemn the white supremacist without a lot of prodding from a lot of people. Instead, he chose to blame people who were not responsible for the young woman's death.
          not true... the day it happened he condemned the driver... but IF the young girl hadn't been there as a member of AntiFa... then she would be alive still.
          AntiFa has been causing shit from the left to the right coast. Hell some almost beat a trump supporter to death in NYC the other night.
          Protest is part of the reason for our Republic. It is allowed/encouraged by our 1st amendment. Whether some want to make it a "violent" outcome is on them. I have seen many left leaning folks blame him for everything under the sun. While those same people never mention all the GOOD that has been done in the past 12 months.
          Do you remember seeing conservatives out busting windows... setting fire to cars/buildings? Yeah? neither do I.

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          • SalesServiceGuy
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            Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

            The US Gov't shutdown and then prompt re-opening is being portrayed as a victory by President Trump, the White House and Fox News and a defeat for Democrat Senate Leader Schumer and the Democrats.

            I see it more as a trial balloon. It is a strong warning to the country that the Democrats have the power to bring the country to a shutdown again if the Republicans do not come to the table and agree to a DACA solution.

            While the right wing media speaks of the estimated 800,000 DACA residents (Dreamers) as illegal aliens, these people are really undocumented citizens who have lived in the USA for almost all of their lives, pay taxes and contribute to society.

            Both the Republicans and Democrats will be back at the table on Feb 9th facing the same crisis. That crisis has been created by President Trump and the Republican party because they are five months late in presenting a comprehensive budget to run the country.

            There is only so much money in the US budget to go around. The proposed increased funding for the way over sized US military and the Border wall at the expense of social programs is causing a great tear in American society.

            President Trump's much heralded tax cuts while giving US citizens a short term pay increase and US Corporations a long term tax deduction is going to cause havoc a few years from now due to greatly reduced gov't revenues and a rapidly expanding debt burden.

            If you have NetFlix, President Obama was recently interviewed by David Letterman in a series called "My Next Guest". Obama was exactly correct in his assessment that if a person does not diversify their media consumption across multiple new outlets and political platforms, they can spend their entire time in information silos that filter out facts and opinions that reinforce their own preconceived notions. Many media consumers are weak and lazy and continuously go back to their favorites because it is easy not to think for one self.

            The Russian 2016 attack on media outlets prior to the US election recognized this weakness in Western democracies and have crafted an entire industry to exploit this to their advantage around the world.

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            • slimslob
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              #741
              Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

              Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
              The US Gov't shutdown and then prompt re-opening is being portrayed as a victory by President Trump, the White House and Fox News and a defeat for Democrat Senate Leader Schumer and the Democrats.
              Schumer knew that if he did not capitulate, the Democrats and the independents who caucus with them stood to loose 26 Senate seats in the mid term elections this year. As it is, they still stand to lose about half of those seats.

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              • Copier Addict
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                #742
                Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

                Originally posted by Phil B.
                not true... the day it happened he condemned the driver... but IF the young girl hadn't been there as a member of AntiFa... then she would be alive still.
                AntiFa has been causing shit from the left to the right coast. Hell some almost beat a trump supporter to death in NYC the other night.
                Protest is part of the reason for our Republic. It is allowed/encouraged by our 1st amendment. Whether some want to make it a "violent" outcome is on them. I have seen many left leaning folks blame him for everything under the sun. While those same people never mention all the GOOD that has been done in the past 12 months.
                Do you remember seeing conservatives out busting windows... setting fire to cars/buildings? Yeah? neither do I.
                This was his initial statement.
                "We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence, on many sides. On many sides. It's been going on for a long time in our country. Not Donald Trump, not Barack Obama. This has been going on for a long, long time."
                Not a mention of any white supremacists.


                I guess conservatives
                don't break windows, they just run them over with their cars. Nice!!

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                • SalesServiceGuy
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                  #743
                  Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

                  Sounds like talk from an information silo.

                  No one knows what the future will bring in US politics but a rout of the Democrats in Nov 2018 seems far fetched.

                  What is reality is Feb 8th. If the Republican party does not come to the realization that they need to compromise, I predict you will see multiple mini gov't shut downs and start ups until they get the message.
                  Last edited by SalesServiceGuy; 01-24-2018, 01:47 AM.

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                  • Santander
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                    #744
                    Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

                    Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
                    Sounds like talk from an information silo.

                    No one knows what the future will bring in US politics but a rout of the Democrats in Nov 2018 seems far fetched.

                    What is reality is Feb 8th. If the Republican party does not come to the realization that they need to compromise, I predict you will see multiple mini gov't shut downs and start ups until they get the message.
                    Your perception of Americans and American Politics is truly amazing, dead wrong but still amazing! It is the Democrats [Socialists/Communists] that need to compromise. What the "reality" is that Trump will navigate to have a "BUDGET" instead of continuing resolutions and if it takes shutting down a bloated, self serving government - good, I am with him! Maybe eventually the Dem's will get the message that you cannot protect felons by trying to blackmail the budget process. "TRUMP crazy as a fox"!

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                    • SalesServiceGuy
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                      #745
                      Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

                      Demonizing democrats as Socialist/Communist reflects a deep information silo point of view.

                      The Democrats under Senator Schumer deliberately "caved" on their Gov't weekend "Shut Down" position to cause as little harm as possible to everyone involved while making a symbolic statement that on Feb 9 if the the Republicans do not move towards an acceptable solution more shutdowns are possible.

                      President Trump is now under pressure to clearly describe his position on DACA and produce a budget that can pass both Congress and the Senate.

                      As stated the Budget is at least four months late. You cannot professionally run neither a Corporation nor a Gov't that way. In my copier job, I would be fired if my budget was that late.

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                      • theengel
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                        #746
                        Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

                        Originally posted by copier addict
                        Sorry, I should have been more specific. He didn't condemn the white supremacist without a lot of prodding from a lot of people. Instead, he chose to blame people who were not responsible for the young woman's death.
                        So you're okay with racism as long as it isn't a white supremacist. That's what I'm hearing you say. It's only white supremacists who are bad. Racism, bigotry, and hatred in general is okay.

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                        • Copier Addict
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                          #747
                          Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

                          Originally posted by theengel
                          So you're okay with racism as long as it isn't a white supremacist. That's what I'm hearing you say. It's only white supremacists who are bad. Racism, bigotry, and hatred in general is okay.
                          I don't know how you are hearing that since I haven't stated anything like that.
                          Just because you type something does not make it true.
                          If you must know, I am against racism.
                          How do you feel about it?

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                          • theengel
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                            #748
                            Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

                            Originally posted by copier addict
                            I don't know how you are hearing that since I haven't stated anything like that.
                            Just because you type something does not make it true.
                            If you must know, I am against racism.
                            How do you feel about it?
                            I don't think you are. You're clearly only against white supremacists. This is very obvious in your posts.

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                            • eddy out
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                              #749
                              Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

                              you need not be a racist to be accused of being one, if you are arguing with a liberal.

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                              • slimslob
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                                #750
                                Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

                                Originally posted by eddy out
                                you need not be a racist to be accused of being one, if you are arguing with a liberal.
                                A example if a true racist is a liberal who assumes that when you mention illegal aliens automatically assumes that you are talking about people from south of the border. Many of the illegal aliens that are of the biggest concern are those who have come from Europe, Asia, the middle east and Canada and over stayed or in some other way violated the terms of their visa. The 911 terrorists were part of that group.

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