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  • SalesServiceGuy
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    #136
    Re: How Russia hacked the Democrats email

    What was the greatest, most devastating attack on American soil that did not claim a single life?

    PBS "Frontline" makes a decisive case for Russia's hacking of the 2016 presidential election.


    The Putin Files - Intervention in the U.S. Election | FRONTLINE | PBS | Official Site

    This is a large body of work interviewing a wide range of experts.



    He was also at this point touting policy positions that were beyond what Vladimir Putin could have dreamed an American presidential candidate would tell: NATO is obsolete. We should think about lifting sanctions on Russia. We should think about letting Russia have Ukraine.
    "Donald Trump mentioned WikiLeaks more than 150 times in the closing weeks of the election knowing full well that the entire WikiLeaks dump was a Russian intelligence operation."


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    • SalesServiceGuy
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      Re: How Russia hacked the Democrats email

      The Perfect Weapon

      The Perfect Weapon: How Russian Cyberpower Invaded the U.S. - The New York Times



      "It was the cryptic first sign of a cyber espionage and information-warfare campaign devised to disrupt the 2016 presidential election, the first such attempt by a foreign power in American history. What started as an information-gathering operation, intelligence officials believe, ultimately morphed into an effort to harm one candidate, Hillary Clinton, and tip the election to her opponent, Donald J. Trump.

      the resignations of Representative Debbie Wasserman Schultz of Florida, the chairwoman of the D.N.C., and most of her top party aides. Leading Democrats were sidelined at the height of the campaign,

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      • Geo
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        #138
        Re: How Russia hacked the Democrats email

        Originally posted by copier addict
        If you are looking for a dollar amount, I don't have it. However, if one hides ones money in an offshore tax haven, one is obviously not paying the appropriate amount of tax in the country they live in. The more tax someone else doesn't pay, the more tax you have to pay. Maybe you are okay with that, but I am not.
        Nowhere in my question did I imply or brooch the topic of offshore accounts....So..why would you make assumptions or suggestions about what I may or may not be "okay with" ?
        Back to the original question of my post...If you have no idea about " fair share" why bring it up ? Or are you just throwing out a useless P.C. tag line?

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        • Geo
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          #139
          Re: How Russia hacked the Democrats email

          Originally posted by copier addict
          I think you are confused. I didn't imply anything about the quality. Just the fact that if a GP has more patients they get more money. That is still performance of their job.
          Under communism..the more patients that a GP or any Doctor treats or has does not mean they get more money..
          As for performance...seems you are saying that a GP , even with a poor professional record and achievements , that has many patients has a high level of performance....And your OK with that..????

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          • theengel
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            Re: How Russia hacked the Democrats email

            Originally posted by copier addict
            I'm not sure where you get your info, but everything I could find states that the top 10% make almost 50% of the money and pay about 70% of the taxes.

            Summary of the Latest Federal Income Tax Data, 2016 Update - Tax Foundation
            And you don't think they're paying their share??

            I don't pay ANY taxes. In fact, every year, when I file, I get money back! Anyone with any sense of justice would see that it's the poor who are not paying their fair share. I take advantage of all the things that tax dollars pay for, without contributing anything. How is that fair?

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            • Copier Addict
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              Re: How Russia hacked the Democrats email

              Originally posted by theengel
              And you don't think they're paying their share??

              I don't pay ANY taxes. In fact, every year, when I file, I get money back! Anyone with any sense of justice would see that it's the poor who are not paying their fair share. I take advantage of all the things that tax dollars pay for, without contributing anything. How is that fair?
              Actually I was a little surprised with the numbers. I was expecting a bit less. Up here if is different. I think I read that the top 10% pay only 40% of the taxes. I will check again

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              • Copier Addict
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                #142
                Re: How Russia hacked the Democrats email

                Originally posted by Geo
                Under communism..the more patients that a GP or any Doctor treats or has does not mean they get more money..
                As for performance...seems you are saying that a GP , even with a poor professional record and achievements , that has many patients has a high level of performance....And your OK with that..????
                No, it seems you are putting words into my mouth. I said nothing about quality, good or bad. I simply said that a GP with more patients would make more money than a GP with less patients. You can imply anything you want from that.
                Definition of performance
                the action or process of carrying out or accomplishing an action, task, or function.

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                • bsm2
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                  #143
                  Re: How Russia hacked the Democrats email

                  Originally posted by theengel
                  And you don't think they're paying their share??

                  I don't pay ANY taxes. In fact, every year, when I file, I get money back! Anyone with any sense of justice would see that it's the poor who are not paying their fair share. I take advantage of all the things that tax dollars pay for, without contributing anything. How is that fair?


                  The most likely reason you get money back is how you claim on your W-2, so your paying to much on your payroll deduction through out the year. That combined with you deductions IE, state and local taxes, home mortgage, 10% medical , etc..... But the way the NEW plan KILLS all deductions so many MIDDLE INCOME family's like mine will pay MORE. That does not mean you paid ZERO Federal income tax. Unless your MR TRUMP.

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                  • theengel
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                    #144
                    Re: How Russia hacked the Democrats email

                    You're completely wrong about everything you just said.

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                    • bsm2
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                      #145
                      Re: How Russia hacked the Democrats email

                      Originally posted by theengel
                      You're completely wrong about everything you just said.

                      You can't FIX stupid. Ok please explain how you don't have any federal payroll tax taking out of your pay check? and you pay no state, local taxes, or home mortgage interest? etc.....

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                      • theengel
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                        I'm not on payroll. I'm self employed. But it wouldn't matter. At the end of the year, I get back more money than I put in... even including SS taxes.

                        I'm posting this for the benefit of the Canadians so that they understand I'm not a mathematical moron. I have no intention of trying to convince you of anything. Considering the idiotic stream that has so far been belched from your keyboard, I doubt you could understand what I'm talking about. Anyone smart enough to file their own taxes is at least smart enough to know how much they send out vs how much they get back. I really do get more taxes back than I put in. Through tax credits, 'earned income', etc.,. The American tax system is messed up. The poor pay nothing, and then get something back on top of it. The poor are NOT paying their fair share. The wealthy are.

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                        • Phil B.
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                          #147
                          Re: How Russia hacked the Democrats email

                          Originally posted by theengel
                          And you don't think they're paying their share??

                          I don't pay ANY taxes. In fact, every year, when I file, I get money back! Anyone with any sense of justice would see that it's the poor who are not paying their fair share. I take advantage of all the things that tax dollars pay for, without contributing anything. How is that fair?

                          yeah I have NEVER had to pay at the end of the year... always got a refund.

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                          • Phil B.
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                            #148
                            Re: How Russia hacked the Democrats email

                            Originally posted by bsm2
                            The most likely reason you get money back is how you claim on your W-2, so your paying to much on your payroll deduction through out the year. That combined with you deductions IE, state and local taxes, home mortgage, 10% medical , etc..... But the way the NEW plan KILLS all deductions so many MIDDLE INCOME family's like mine will pay MORE. That does not mean you paid ZERO Federal income tax. Unless your MR TRUMP.
                            umm in 2005 trump paid a lot in federal taxes :

                            Trump Paid About $38 Million In Federal Taxes In 2005, Leaked Returns Say : The Two-Way : NPR

                            and NPR is about a left wing as you get

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                            • bsm2
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                              #149
                              Re: How Russia hacked the Democrats email

                              Originally posted by Phil B.
                              umm in 2005 trump paid a lot in federal taxes :

                              Trump Paid About $38 Million In Federal Taxes In 2005, Leaked Returns Say : The Two-Way : NPR

                              and NPR is about a left wing as you get

                              Where are all the other tax returns, That's right FBI got them NOW HA HA HA

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                              • bsm2
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                                Re: How Russia hacked the Democrats email

                                Originally posted by theengel
                                I'm not on payroll. I'm self employed. But it wouldn't matter. At the end of the year, I get back more money than I put in... even including SS taxes.

                                I'm posting this for the benefit of the Canadians so that they understand I'm not a mathematical moron. I have no intention of trying to convince you of anything. Considering the idiotic stream that has so far been belched from your keyboard, I doubt you could understand what I'm talking about. Anyone smart enough to file their own taxes is at least smart enough to know how much they send out vs how much they get back. I really do get more taxes back than I put in. Through tax credits, 'earned income', etc.,. The American tax system is messed up. The poor pay nothing, and then get something back on top of it. The poor are NOT paying their fair share. The wealthy are.


                                You must HUGE Business Losses just like TRUMP to claim ZERO INCOME. Yes I'm self employed now also.

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