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  • bsm2
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    #196
    Re: How Russia hacked the Democrats email

    Originally posted by theengel
    All they got to do is show some credible evidence. I mean just something to point to, and that's it. But they have nothing. I'm not even sure where the claim came from.

    Here you go
    The United States Intelligence Community concluded, with high confidence, that the Russian government engaged in electoral interference during the 2016 U.S. presidential election.[1][2] A January 2017 assessment by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) stated that Russian leadership preferred presidential candidate Donald Trump over Hillary Clinton, and that Russian president Vladimir Putin personally ordered an "influence campaign" to harm Clinton's electoral chances and "undermine public faith in the US democratic process."[2]:7


    On October 7, 2016, the ODNI and the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) jointly stated that the U.S. Intelligence Community was confident that the Russian Government directed recent hacking of e-mails with the intention of interfering with the U.S. election process.[3] According to the ODNI′s January 6, 2017 report, the Russian military intelligence service (GRU) had hacked the servers of the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and the personal Google email account of Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta and forwarded their contents to WikiLeaks.[2]:ii-iii,2[4][5][6] "The forensic evidence linking the DNC breach to known Russian operations is very strong."[7] Russian officials have repeatedly denied involvement in any DNC hacks or leaks.[8][9][10] In January 2017, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper testified that Russia also interfered in the elections by disseminating fake news that was promoted on social media.[11]


    On October 31, 2016, President Barack Obama warned Putin via the "red phone" to stop interfering or face consequences.[12] In December 2016, Obama ordered a report on hacking efforts aimed at U.S. elections since 2008,[13] while U.S. Senators called for a bipartisan investigation.[14][15] President-elect Donald Trump initially rejected claims of foreign interference and said that Democrats were reacting to their election loss.[16][17] On December 29, 2016, the Obama Administration expelled 35 Russian diplomats, denied access to two Russia-owned compounds, and broadened existing sanctions on Russian entities and individuals.[18]


    Several investigations about Russian influence on the election have been underway: a counter-intelligence investigation by the FBI,[19] hearings by the Senate Intelligence Committee[20] and the House Intelligence Committee,[21] and inquiries about possible links and financial ties between the Kremlin and Trump associates, notably targeting Paul Manafort, Carter Page and Roger Stone.[22][23] On May 9, 2017, Trump dismissed FBI Director James Comey,[24] citing in part dissatisfaction with the ongoing suspicions of his presidency because of "this Russia thing".[25][26] On May 17, Deputy Attorney General, and Acting Attorney General for this investigation, Rod Rosenstein appointed former FBI Director Robert Mueller as Special Counsel to oversee the investigation.

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    • Copier Addict
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      #197
      Re: How Russia hacked the Democrats email

      Originally posted by theengel
      I have a nephew who is adopted... a Russian orphan. Am I in contact with "the Russians?"

      My dad plays racket ball with a Russian woman. Is he in contact with "the Russians?"

      Trump's boy was contacted by someone who claimed to have dirt on Hilary. He happened to be Russian. Trump's boy met with him to see what he had. I'm sorry, I just don't see a problem here. Are you trying to say Hilary, if contacted by a Russian official who claimed to have dirt on Trump, wouldn't have sent someone to find out what it was?

      Oh wait... that did happen. It ended up being the Trump Dossier, which was created by a company with STRONG ties to Russia. Which Hilary bought, and then leaked.

      But the thing is, if the Trump Dossier had turned out to be true, I would have been all for releasing the information to the public... I don't care where it came from. The only reason people are asking where it came from is because it turned out to be false. If any of the information were true, no one would be investigation the origin. They'd be investigating the claims in it.

      But that's not how we treat Queen Hilary. We found damaging information that was leaked, and instead of pursuing legal action against her for breaking the law, everyone, including the FBI, is more worried about how and why everyone found out about it.
      I'm sorry, but just because something hasn't been confirmed doesn't mean it isn't true. Parts of the trump dossier have been verified and parts haven't. Just because trump says it isn't true doesn't make it so.

      If clinton broke the law,yes it should be pursued.

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        #198
        Re: How Russia hacked the Democrats email

        Originally posted by bsm2
        Here you go
        The United States Intelligence Community concluded, with high confidence, that the Russian government engaged in electoral interference during the 2016 U.S. presidential election.[1][2] A January 2017 assessment by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) stated that Russian leadership preferred presidential candidate Donald Trump over Hillary Clinton, and that Russian president Vladimir Putin personally ordered an "influence campaign" to harm Clinton's electoral chances and "undermine public faith in the US democratic process."[2]:7


        On October 7, 2016, the ODNI and the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) jointly stated that the U.S. Intelligence Community was confident that the Russian Government directed recent hacking of e-mails with the intention of interfering with the U.S. election process.[3] According to the ODNI′s January 6, 2017 report, the Russian military intelligence service (GRU) had hacked the servers of the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and the personal Google email account of Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta and forwarded their contents to WikiLeaks.[2]:ii-iii,2[4][5][6] "The forensic evidence linking the DNC breach to known Russian operations is very strong."[7] Russian officials have repeatedly denied involvement in any DNC hacks or leaks.[8][9][10] In January 2017, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper testified that Russia also interfered in the elections by disseminating fake news that was promoted on social media.[11]


        On October 31, 2016, President Barack Obama warned Putin via the "red phone" to stop interfering or face consequences.[12] In December 2016, Obama ordered a report on hacking efforts aimed at U.S. elections since 2008,[13] while U.S. Senators called for a bipartisan investigation.[14][15] President-elect Donald Trump initially rejected claims of foreign interference and said that Democrats were reacting to their election loss.[16][17] On December 29, 2016, the Obama Administration expelled 35 Russian diplomats, denied access to two Russia-owned compounds, and broadened existing sanctions on Russian entities and individuals.[18]


        Several investigations about Russian influence on the election have been underway: a counter-intelligence investigation by the FBI,[19] hearings by the Senate Intelligence Committee[20] and the House Intelligence Committee,[21] and inquiries about possible links and financial ties between the Kremlin and Trump associates, notably targeting Paul Manafort, Carter Page and Roger Stone.[22][23] On May 9, 2017, Trump dismissed FBI Director James Comey,[24] citing in part dissatisfaction with the ongoing suspicions of his presidency because of "this Russia thing".[25][26] On May 17, Deputy Attorney General, and Acting Attorney General for this investigation, Rod Rosenstein appointed former FBI Director Robert Mueller as Special Counsel to oversee the investigation.
        Oh dear! Not facts!!! Please tell me you haven't sullied this discussion with facts.

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        • theengel
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          Re: How Russia hacked the Democrats email

          Those aren't facts... those a claims. Claims made by compromised agencies at that. Over and over again, FBI agents (including Comey) were asked under oath if they had seen ANY EVIDENCE that Trump had colluded with the Russians. Over and over again, their answer was, "No."

          Comey did testify, however, that Hilary violated the law.

          None of the information in the Trump Dossier has been "verified"... whatever that means.

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            Re: How Russia hacked the Democrats email

            Originally posted by theengel
            Those aren't facts... those a claims. Claims made by compromised agencies at that. Over and over again, FBI agents (including Comey) were asked under oath if they had seen ANY EVIDENCE that Trump had colluded with the Russians. Over and over again, their answer was, "No."

            Comey did testify, however, that Hilary violated the law.

            None of the information in the Trump Dossier has been "verified"... whatever that means.
            Someone who actually believes every intelligence agency in the US has be compromised really has zero credibility in my opinion.
            Just because trump says something it doesn't make it true. In fact it is likely the opposite. But on the other hand he is "Like ,really smart". Haha
            trump has been blowing smoke up peoples asses by diverting attention away from this investigation by making ridiculous statements about these agencies.
            Sometime soon trump will be getting rid of muller. The investigation is maybe showing some results so trump will have to do away with it.

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            • theengel
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              Re: How Russia hacked the Democrats email

              So you're just ignoring what ALL the investigators are saying under oath?

              They've got nothing on Trump... that's why they're prosecuting for process crimes.

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                #202
                Re: How Russia hacked the Democrats email

                Originally posted by theengel
                So you're just ignoring what ALL the investigators are saying under oath?

                They've got nothing on Trump... that's why they're prosecuting for process crimes.
                If you are talking about Comey's testimony, he didn't say trump wasn't involved. He said he didn't want to talk about it an open session.
                Last edited by Copier Addict; 01-08-2018, 07:51 PM. Reason: spelling error correction

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                • SalesServiceGuy
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                  #203
                  Re: How Russia hacked the Democrats email

                  I was watching an interesting interview with Michael Wolf, the author of the "Fire and Fury". He characterizes the Trump election team as "the gang that could not shoot straight". If there was collusion, it was inadvertent and not because of any plan on the Trump team. The Trump team just eagerly took in any info they got without really vetting the sources to attack the Clinton campaign in any way they could.

                  If the Meuller team touches on a money trail that would lead back to President Trump and his family, there will be real problems.
                  Last edited by SalesServiceGuy; 01-09-2018, 03:30 AM. Reason: spelling

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                  • theengel
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                    #204
                    Re: How Russia hacked the Democrats email

                    He also said that Trump didn't want to win... which kind of kills the whole collusion theory, doesn't it.

                    Congress asked investigators over and over again if they had seen any evidence that trump had colluded with the Russians. The answer, over and over again, was "no."

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                    • bsm2
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                      #205
                      Re: How Russia hacked the Democrats email

                      Originally posted by theengel
                      Those aren't facts... those a claims. Claims made by compromised agencies at that. Over and over again, FBI agents (including Comey) were asked under oath if they had seen ANY EVIDENCE that Trump had colluded with the Russians. Over and over again, their answer was, "No."

                      Comey did testify, however, that Hilary violated the law.

                      None of the information in the Trump Dossier has been "verified"... whatever that means.

                      So 17 US Intelligence Agencies have been compromised? By who? You should contact the FBI if you have Proof.

                      As far as the Dossier Please ask Mr Trump to make pubic and release the Fusion GPS 10 hour transcript.
                      Also all his Tax returns.


                      Sorry to confuse you with the FACTS. No worries ALL Kings FALL. It's only a matter of TIME!
                      FBI always get's there MAN!

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                        #206
                        Re: How Russia hacked the Democrats email

                        Originally posted by theengel
                        He also said that Trump didn't want to win... which kind of kills the whole collusion theory, doesn't it.

                        Congress asked investigators over and over again if they had seen any evidence that trump had colluded with the Russians. The answer, over and over again, was "no."
                        You may be right. trump might not be bright enough to collude with anyone. He likely doesn't even know what the word means. That certainly doesn't mean his election team wasn't doing it.
                        However, he is "Like, really smart" hahahaha

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                        • theengel
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                          Trump is running intellectual rings around everyone and accomplishing what most conservatives would have never dared to dream of accomplishing. Instead of sitting in a room and theorizing about economics and academic conservatism, he's putting it all into practice... and it's working. All the bad numbers are down and all the good numbers are up.

                          The liberals aren't even noticing that Obama's legacy is choking and dying... it's like he was never even president. Everyone's too focused on Trump's tweets to even try to fight it.

                          What I don't get, is why anyone wants to fight it at all? We have historical lows in black unemployment. Why do people not like this?

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                          • bsm2
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                            #208
                            Re: How Russia hacked the Democrats email

                            Originally posted by theengel
                            Trump is running intellectual rings around everyone and accomplishing what most conservatives would have never dared to dream of accomplishing. Instead of sitting in a room and theorizing about economics and academic conservatism, he's putting it all into practice... and it's working. All the bad numbers are down and all the good numbers are up.

                            The liberals aren't even noticing that Obama's legacy is choking and dying... it's like he was never even president. Everyone's too focused on Trump's tweets to even try to fight it.

                            What I don't get, is why anyone wants to fight it at all? We have historical lows in black unemployment. Why do people not like this?

                            Thank You President Obama as far TRUMPO Administration Another Congress Another President can undo all the damage from the Russian Puppet.
                            Please start your own Thread stick with the topic How Russia hacked the Democrats email
                            Last edited by bsm2; 01-09-2018, 01:20 PM.

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                              Re: How Russia hacked the Democrats email

                              Originally posted by theengel
                              Trump is running intellectual rings around everyone and accomplishing what most conservatives would have never dared to dream of accomplishing. Instead of sitting in a room and theorizing about economics and academic conservatism, he's putting it all into practice... and it's working. All the bad numbers are down and all the good numbers are up.

                              The liberals aren't even noticing that Obama's legacy is choking and dying... it's like he was never even president. Everyone's too focused on Trump's tweets to even try to fight it.

                              What I don't get, is why anyone wants to fight it at all? We have historical lows in black unemployment. Why do people not like this?
                              Hmmmm. We have record unemployment lows here too. And we have a Liberal government. Yikes!! And not a russian colluder in sight.

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                              • tech28
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                                #210
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                                bsmatters2, stick to the topic, How Russia hacked the Demorats e-mail,

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