Construction Paper run in a Digital copier

[Techman1000]

I would like to know what other technician's think about running construction paper in a most modern digital copiers!

I was contacted by one on my customers, ( happens to be a school ) wanting to do this.
I have always recommended not doing this

[Phil B.]

Re: Construction Paper run in a Digital copier

I would like to know what other technician's think about running construction paper in a most modern digital copiers!

I was contacted by one on my customers, ( happens to be a school ) wanting to do this.
I have always recommended not doing this

wouldn't suggest it

[gneebore]

Re: Construction Paper run in a Digital copier

I would like to know what other technician's think about running construction paper in a most modern digital copiers!

I was contacted by one on my customers, ( happens to be a school ) wanting to do this.
I have always recommended not doing this

I was going to say if the copier has a setting for the weight of the construction paper they want to use yes go ahead. But then I started remembering all the dumb repeat calls because the people (usually schools or churches) would insist on not using the instruction manual recommended bypass tray for any paper over a certain weight. One place even wanted to know why the copier would not duplex the 120 pound paper.

[Zeldaman]

[Lance15]

Re: Construction Paper run in a Digital copier

not using the instruction manual

Huh? What's that?

[blackcat4866]

Re: Construction Paper run in a Digital copier

Construction paper is the lowest quality, highest dust level of any kind of paper I know of. Eventually you'll have very full dust collectors, and poor drum cleaning, primary transfer belt cleaning, secondary transfer belt cleaning.

Do you like doing a lot of extra cleaning? Go ahead. =^..^=

[Lance15]

Re: Construction Paper run in a Digital copier

Talk about lowest quality supplies..........


We've got an account that uses "state made" paper (ridiculous amount of paper dust), and aftermarket toner. The printers have SO much paper dust and "loose" toner that gears just don't stand a chance.

[fixthecopier]

Re: Construction Paper run in a Digital copier

I do calls at a hospital. Almost every machine has a tray with armband material in it. Half of the sheet is slick plastic. Hard to explain about how rollers in a copier work to people who don't care. It just jams. One call last week was because the doc feeder wouldn't pull paper that they had scotch taped other pieces of paper to it.

"Well it works on the other copier"
"The other copier is older and better"
"Well what are we going to do?"
"Walk down there and use the other copier"

[gneebore]

Re: Construction Paper run in a Digital copier

I do calls at a hospital. Almost every machine has a tray with armband material in it. Half of the sheet is slick plastic. Hard to explain about how rollers in a copier work to people who don't care. It just jams. One call last week was because the doc feeder wouldn't pull paper that they had scotch taped other pieces of paper to it.

"Well it works on the other copier"
"The other copier is older and better"
"Well what are we going to do?"
"Walk down there and use the other copier"

Oh yeah remember that kind of stupidity well. The other real good jam problem was having them run stapled papers through the doc feeder. Had one customer that called at least once a month to have me clear a staple or paper clip to stop the feeder from jamming. Best thing was the owner/senior partner of the law firm came in one day while I was there. He had to make some copies before I got started clearing the "paper jams." When he lifted the doc feeder up to put the note cards he was making copies of five staples and a paper clip fell out of the feeder onto the glass. That's when he asked me if all the calls for the paper jams were because of the staples and paper clips being in the way of the paper going through the machine and of course I had to answer yes sir. He had them move the staple remover and paper clip cups to a table ten feet away and he put the note on the machine to make sure all staples and paper clips were removed from the originals before using the copier.

[slimslob]

Re: Construction Paper run in a Digital copier

I do calls at a hospital. Almost every machine has a tray with armband material in it. Half of the sheet is slick plastic. Hard to explain about how rollers in a copier work to people who don't care. It just jams. One call last week was because the doc feeder wouldn't pull paper that they had scotch taped other pieces of paper to it.

"Well it works on the other copier"
"The other copier is older and better"
"Well what are we going to do?"
"Walk down there and use the other copier"

There are printers that are designed specifically for doing the arm bands.

[slimslob]

Re: Construction Paper run in a Digital copier

If you have a school that needs to do a lot of copying on construction paper, they need to get a color inkjet wide document printer. There are even some that can print white ink onto colored papers.

[Iowatech]

Re: Construction Paper run in a Digital copier

If you have a school that needs to do a lot of copying on construction paper, they need to get a color inkjet wide document printer. There are even some that can print white ink onto colored papers.

Or a digital duplicator.
Although prints per original is kind of an issue with duplicators, if they can't average at least 20 prints per original a duplicator will be unnecessarily costly to both the users of the machines and the people maintaining them. So slimslob has the best idea.

[fixthecopier]

Re: Construction Paper run in a Digital copier

There are printers that are designed specifically for doing the arm bands.

BUT THE SALESMAN SAID.......

[slimslob]

Re: Construction Paper run in a Digital copier

BUT THE SALESMAN SAID.......

I know from experience that there are wrist band forms can can be fed through an MFP. If everything is exactly correct, they do work until you get out the next box and layout is not exactly the same or they are actually for inkjet printers and don't stand up to the heat of the fusing unit or do not feed consistently with the composition of the pick up/feed rollers and the "Salesman" tells you "Just fix it"

[fixthecopier]

Re: Construction Paper run in a Digital copier

I know from experience that there are wrist band forms can can be fed through an MFP. If everything is exactly correct, they do work until you get out the next box and layout is not exactly the same or they are actually for inkjet printers and don't stand up to the heat of the fusing unit or do not feed consistently with the composition of the pick up/feed rollers and the "Salesman" tells you "Just fix it"

That decision has to be reached by the customer and their sales rep. The contract is a large one for HP, they sub the service to LMS who subs it to my shop, who then sends me. The customer has told me that renewed business with HP depends on the service, or me. I am in a position where I get none of the credit if all goes well, but all of the blame if it goes bad. I am sure that me suggesting models to be purchased would not go over well. So far HP and LMS have been quick to replace problem machines. The old 4555's and 4540's have been doing OK when rollers are changed frequently, and problems with new models are HP problems. I am just the mechanic.