Anti-vaccine ridiculousness

[allan]

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The only thing i needed treatment for was for contracting tetanus, being dumb and malnourished caused it. Was a sheet metal working at the time and all the tiny cuts on my hands was a good place for an infection to take.
Lock-jaw is no fun. Now now that if you PH balance is correct and you take in lots of vitamin C and the B ranges changes of contracting it is very low.

Had all of the rest and was considered normal growing up stuff.

[Copier Addict]

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Though autism is not directly associated with vaccines, sufficiently high levels of mercury, from thimerosal, is neurotoxic, and probably more toxic in the immature brain. It is this neurotoxicity that could contribute to autism. There are two thing that parents can do to ensure the safety of their children.

1. When possible, insist on single dose vaccines as they normally do not require the use of thimerosal as a preservative.
2. When single dose vaccines are not available, do not have multiple vaccines administered at the same time, space them out over a six month to a year time period, in another word do not shotgun all the vaccinations your child needs to start school the week before school starts. FYI multiple disease vaccines such as MMR (measles, mumps and rubella) and DTaP (diphtheria, tetanus and pertussis) are considered single vaccines.

Everything I have read states that thimerosol is no longer used in childhood vaccines.

[Copier Addict]

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The "study" that associated autism with the vaccines has been proven a falsified data study. Did a quick search and found tons of links with all sorts of different websites debunking the autism study too many to list actually. The actual proof of the effectiveness of vaccines makes no impact on the anti-vaccine crowd. I actually went to school with some students that contracted polio before the vaccine to prevent polio was developed. The worst cases of polio sufferers were not plentiful, And if severe enough they were treated with the dreaded iron lung. And every one of us in school in the fifties had the scar on the upper arm. Heck I still have a very very faint remnant of the polio vaccine scar. In fact the vaccinations were carried out in school classrooms. Of course I also do not remember if there was a religious exemption allowed back then either.

Actual fact is I do tend to avoid vaccinations now. But there have been some stories where people born and attending elementary school in the fifties have immunity from measles due to the back then required vaccinations. Or even actual natural immunity because you actually had a version of the measles and your body has created the anti-bodies naturally. The first time I was required to get a flu vaccination I ended up with walking pneumonia, temp of 102.5 coughing sneezing all the symptoms. Problem was there were actually so many cases at Fort Dix Training Center they only hospitalized you if your temp was 103.5. Less than that you stayed with the rest off the other infected recruits. I have had similar reactions to the flu vaccine three more times when I was required to have one to be able to get onto two of the military basis nearby when we had contracts on equipment on base. Strangely I have had no reactions to vaccines against other illnesses, just the flu vaccinations. Yes I had the shingles vaccination years ago when it was developed.

In my opinion the flu vaccine is a joke. most years it is well under 50% effective. When I say "well under" I mean around 10%. When it it is constantly 90%+ effective, I will consider it.
I didn't state it in the opening remark, but I am referring to vaccines for what we consider childhood diseases. measels, chicken pox, polio etc.

[copiertec]

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What kind of person denies their children the potential life saving protection of vaccinations?
In my opinion you would have to be a complete moron to not give your child all the help you can.
There is zero proof they cause autism, yet these people somehow believe they do.
The, so called, ethical stand against using a product created from aborted foetuses is a non issue. The cells they use now are so far removed from the original ones they really not even related anymore.

First, I am by no means an expert on this topic, however, I have been to several lectures on this topic and have done some research independently on my own. I have deducted from my research, that children (new-borns in particular) do not have a developed immune system and the MMR shot is given to them all at once, this dose or doses have been a topic of controversy for quite some time. Instead of giving the MMR (Measles, Mumps, Rubella) which is several doses at once....why not break them up and spread them out over a period of time, in turn giving the undeveloped immune system time to recover from each one.
The CDC has a full list of ingredients of the shots, which I know at one time contained, thimerosal (mercury), aluminum, formaldehyde, and MSG to name a few.

[allan]

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First, I am by no means an expert on this topic, however, I have been to several lectures on this topic and have done some research independently on my own. I have deducted from my research, that children (new-borns in particular) do not have a developed immune system and the MMR shot is given to them all at once, this dose or doses have been a topic of controversy for quite some time. Instead of giving the MMR (Measles, Mumps, Rubella) which is several doses at once....why not break them up and spread them out over a period of time, in turn giving the undeveloped immune system time to recover from each one.
The CDC has a full list of ingredients of the shots, which I know at one time contained, thimerosal (mercury), aluminum, formaldehyde, and MSG to name a few.

Two big solutions to a problem we face with infant immunity.
Woman need to have natural births for the bacteria that the baby gets coated in on its way out is the very first step to developing the immune system.
Moms need to breast feed well past 6 months to insure a good strong immune system. Its not understood but there is like a transfer of information during breast feeding, call it firmware updates.
Now if its due to the milk or simply real close proximity... Some tinfoil hat stuff.

[Geo]

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A little side note...By Federal laws Vaccine manufactures are immune from all lawsuits ..even for negligence or death. I looked but can't find out how it was determined that Vacs have Zero effect on mental issues,,,For example did the researchers follow a group long term that had little to no Vacs?
Seems the Vaccine/Autism debate will not end until the cause of Autism is identified...

[slimslob]

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Instead of giving the MMR (Measles, Mumps, Rubella) which is several doses at once....why not break them up and spread them out over a period of time, in turn giving the undeveloped immune system time to recover from each one.

Though the MMR contains protection for three different contagious diseases, it is still a single shot. Giving them as separate shots spread over a number of months could actually triple the mercury exposure. By the way, which one would you have given to you child last? Mumps or Measles German Measles

[allan]

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Like Kent Hovind explains 98% of rat poison is good food its the 2% that does the business.
How does Mr Gates state in the same breath that vaccination that saves lives will cause a decrease in the population?

Those guide stones still sitting pretty?

I will I will I will I will I will written in wedges and triangles.

[gneebore]

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A little side note...By Federal laws Vaccine manufactures are immune from all lawsuits ..even for negligence or death. I looked but can't find out how it was determined that Vacs have Zero effect on mental issues,,,For example did the researchers follow a group long term that had little to no Vacs?
Seems the Vaccine/Autism debate will not end until the cause of Autism is identified...

Autism was defined in 1908. But cowpox vaccination treatments were developed in the 1790's. A British doctor took pus from an infected milkmaids hand and injected it into an eight year old boy. He later injected the same boy with smallpox to see if the boy developed smallpox. It was noticed at the time that milkmaids infected with cowpox did not contract the smallpox disease. Actually it would be much easier to provide the link for the historical accounting of early vaccinations

https://www.healthaffairs.org/doi/fu...thaff.24.3.611

[Copier Addict]

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Though the MMR contains protection for three different contagious diseases, it is still a single shot. Giving them as separate shots spread over a number of months could actually triple the mercury exposure. By the way, which one would you have given to you child last? Mumps or Measles German Measles

There is no mercury in vaccines for childhood diseases. At least everything I have read indicates that

[jonhiker]

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i do come from that generation where we got vaccinations for all of the childhood diseases, as they used to be called. it was just normal. i get the flu shot every year, do not get any reaction to it. I sometimes get a mild case of the flu, sometimes not. I had shingles once, and my wife made me get the shingles vaccine.

Vaccines are also to protect other people.

[NeoMatrix]

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Be wary of those who come to protect the children.

Vaccination or population control?
Are these child health vaccinations from the same caring NWO that disperses virual agents from the wing tips of commerical airline aircraft?

Are these child health vaccinations from the same caring NWO that sprays chem-trails from high altitude military aircraft?

I beleive Russia deals with the viral dispersent problem by shooting down these commercial aircraft unconditional .
I'm inclined to believe Malaysia might do similar, the pilots kamakazi the aircraft into the middle of the indian ocean.

Aircraft viral dispersent takes around two weeks to float down from the atmosphere.
The viral dispersent delivery has a timimg delay according to the distance the aircraft requires to reach the desired population target area.
The viral agent is known to be delivered from the upper atmosphere, because all the tree dwelling mammals eg. flying foxes,
kolas,possums in our country developed clymidia,syphillus,lysa-virus,menigitis,ect, skin/face cancers and body lesians all around the same periodic interval.
These animals live isolated lives high up in the tree tops away from any human contact at ground level.
It doesn't take a great deal of thought to work out the problem appeared to be delivered from the sky.
Why did the tree top animals suffer from disease first before animals around the ground level circum?

Re. The Paramount Importance of vaccinations.
Of cause the children need multiple vaccinations its part of the caring sharing NWO predefined poplation system.
Of cause it will gradually becoming a legal requirment to vaccinate your children, such be the case of the predetemined NWO
deliberately created scenario to protect "their" children from the biological parents.
Of cause all the new childhood vaccinations will be "cost effectively" contained in a single one off capusle place under the skin.
Of cause the ID-Capsule will contain a RF-ID electronic tag to make sure the parents obey the vaccination NWO laws.

RE. The righteous,godly driven 3rd Person.
You horrible bad parents, you should be put in jail for not vaccinating "OUR" children.

Be wary of those who come to protect the children.

[Sn->Al wizard cover instu...]

[davel]

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Be wary of those who come to protect the children.

Vaccination or population control?
Are these child health vaccinations from the same caring NWO that disperses virual agents from the wing tips of commerical airline aircraft?

Are these child health vaccinations from the same caring NWO that sprays chem-trails from high altitude military aircraft?

I beleive Russia deals with the viral dispersent problem by shooting down these commercial aircraft unconditional .
I'm inclined to believe Malaysia might do similar, the pilots kamakazi the aircraft into the middle of the indian ocean.

Aircraft viral dispersent takes around two weeks to float down from the atmosphere.
The viral dispersent delivery has a timimg delay according to the distance the aircraft requires to reach the desired population target area.
The viral agent is known to be delivered from the upper atmosphere, because all the tree dwelling mammals eg. flying foxes,
kolas,possums in our country developed clymidia,syphillus,lysa-virus,menigitis,ect, skin/face cancers and body lesians all around the same periodic interval.
These animals live isolated lives high up in the tree tops away from any human contact at ground level.
It doesn't take a great deal of thought to work out the problem appeared to be delivered from the sky.
Why did the tree top animals suffer from disease first before animals around the ground level circum?

Re. The Paramount Importance of vaccinations.
Of cause the children need multiple vaccinations its part of the caring sharing NWO predefined poplation system.
Of cause it will gradually becoming a legal requirment to vaccinate your children, such be the case of the predetemined NWO
deliberately created scenario to protect "their" children from the biological parents.
Of cause all the new childhood vaccinations will be "cost effectively" contained in a single one off capusle place under the skin.
Of cause the ID-Capsule will contain a RF-ID electronic tag to make sure the parents obey the vaccination NWO laws.

RE. The righteous,godly driven 3rd Person.
You horrible bad parents, you should be put in jail for not vaccinating "OUR" children.

Be wary of those who come to protect the children.

[Sn->Al wizard cover instu...]

You have got to be kidding, what drugs are you on.

[slimslob]

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There is no mercury in vaccines for childhood diseases. At least everything I have read indicates that

In 1990 CDC and drug manufacturers agreed to reduce the amount of thimerosal used to only what was absolutely necessary in multi dose vials but it was not eliminated. Please note, thimerosal was only used as a preservative in multi dose vials, not in single dose vials. Check that the sources you are reading are not referring to single dose vials.

[allan]

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You have got to be kidding, what drugs are you on.

He must be on a drug called common sense!

Why can't you take care of what is your own. Now you trust people who have no love or good intentions for you!
You yourself don't have the means to determine what you are dealing with.

Hosea 4:6

There are some designs that was made to be in perfect balance. Well not some all that man did not make himself.