Do you trust the media?

[antone]

Re: Do you trust the media?

WOW...Trump people just don't get it! He only thinks of his self and last couple of months proved it.In all these years and i am 68,never did think anyone person put a hold on so many. Rep/Dems we are America's first black. white,brown ect.When i was in Nam we all where brother"s maybe one day we come together. Matter what anyone say's he turn everyone against each other!! So sad!!!!

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[slimslob]

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WOW...Trump people just don't get it! He only thinks of his self and last couple of months proved it.In all these years and i am 68,never did think anyone person put a hold on so many. Rep/Dems we are America's first black. white,brown ect.When i was in Nam we all where brother"s maybe one day we come together. Matter what anyone say's he turn everyone against each other!! So sad!!!!

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Wow!! I see we have another CNN Kool-aid drinker. Let us see:

1. Trump policies brought back manufacturing jobs to America that Obama had said would be gone forever
2. For three years the lowest unemployment rate in decades. And that includes for blacks and Hispanics. If you had a good job a year and a half ago, thank Trump. If you lost it during the shutdown, blame the Democrats not Trump.
3. Strong economy ever. Again until the shutdowns killed it.

As a Vietnam veteran, Americal Division 1970-1971. 1st BN 82 FA Red Legs. Initially with BN commo then with Alpha battery. I can say that you are wrong about all being brothers. Within some units yes bit definitely not all. When we were on stand down following operations near the DMZ, a couple of our members were going around Chu Lai EM club hopping. They were met at the door at one and told that blacks were not allowed. As for turning everyone against each other, again that was CNN MSM and the Democrat Party.

[copiertec]

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WOW...Trump people just don't get it! He only thinks of his self and last couple of months proved it.In all these years and i am 68,never did think anyone person put a hold on so many. Rep/Dems we are America's first black. white,brown ect.When i was in Nam we all where brother"s maybe one day we come together. Matter what anyone say's he turn everyone against each other!! So sad!!!!

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I will be the first to say, I am not a Trump or a Trumper, or whatever you call it, I CALL IT LIKE IT IS. What I had posted is truth...hate groups that are not covered by the news media...it has nothing to do with politics. How many "Jewish" people are followers of the "Nation of Islam?" None, because Farrakhan followers, "Hate" the Jewish community!!!! Again I ask where is the media steering you and your thoughts?? Be a hero...do your research!! Sound familiar?

[BillyCarpenter]

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WOW...Trump people just don't get it! He only thinks of his self and last couple of months proved it.In all these years and i am 68,never did think anyone person put a hold on so many. Rep/Dems we are America's first black. white,brown ect.When i was in Nam we all where brother"s maybe one day we come together. Matter what anyone say's he turn everyone against each other!! So sad!!!!

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First of all, thanks for your service.

When Vietnam vets returned home form the war, they were spit on and treated poorly. By whom? Liberals. The same liberals that are now in charge.

[Copier Addict]

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Wow!! I see we have another CNN Kool-aid drinker. Let us see:

1. Trump policies brought back manufacturing jobs to America that Obama had said would be gone forever
2. For three years the lowest unemployment rate in decades. And that includes for blacks and Hispanics. If you had a good job a year and a half ago, thank Trump. If you lost it during the shutdown, blame the Democrats not Trump.
3. Strong economy ever. Again until the shutdowns killed it.

As a Vietnam veteran, Americal Division 1970-1971. 1st BN 82 FA Red Legs. Initially with BN commo then with Alpha battery. I can say that you are wrong about all being brothers. Within some units yes bit definitely not all. When we were on stand down following operations near the DMZ, a couple of our members were going around Chu Lai EM club hopping. They were met at the door at one and told that blacks were not allowed. As for turning everyone against each other, again that was CNN MSM and the Democrat Party.

If anyone shows signs of being in a cult it is the trumpers like you and Phil. You completely ignore all the disgusting things he does because you seem to be in love with him. When he stated that he could kill someone in times square and not lose any supporters he was right. That is a sure sign of being in a cult.
How do you not see that donny boy just uses people until they are of no more use to him. He demands loyalty while giving none in return. You are of no concern to him. You do not exist unless you can do something for him and he will throw you under the bus as soon as you stop being useful to him. He has demonstrated this many times.

[BillyCarpenter]

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If anyone shows signs of being in a cult it is the trumpers like you and Phil. You completely ignore all the disgusting things he does because you seem to be in love with him. When he stated that he could kill someone in times square and not lose any supporters he was right. That is a sure sign of being in a cult.
How do you not see that donny boy just uses people until they are of no more use to him. He demands loyalty while giving none in return. You are of no concern to him. You do not exist unless you can do something for him and he will throw you under the bus as soon as you stop being useful to him. He has demonstrated this many times.

Feminine men, such as yourself, are offended by a real man like Trump. For example, when Trump makes a joke about being able to shoot someone, you get your panties in a wad.

By chance, were you raised by a single mother?

[Copier Addict]

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Feminine men, such as yourself, are offended by a real man like Trump. For example, when Trump makes a joke about being able to shoot someone, you get your panties in a wad.

By chance, were you raised by a single mother?

Hmmmm, correct me if I'm wrong but you are the one always commenting on male genitalia. Your obsession is maybe a sign of something??
He was joking? Kinda like when he was "joking " about using disinfectant inside the body and nuking hurricanes. Sure dude. TDS is strong in you.

[BillyCarpenter]

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Hmmmm, correct me if I'm wrong but you are the one always commenting on male genitalia. Your obsession is maybe a sign of something??
He was joking? Kinda like when he was "joking " about using disinfectant inside the body and nuking hurricanes. Sure dude. TDS is strong in you.

I'm gonna give you a break and not post what I'm thinking. I had it all typed out but decided to give you a break. You've had a rough last couple of weeks. Now go away.

[Copier Addict]

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I'm gonna give you a break and not post what I'm thinking. I had it all typed out but decided to give you a break. You've had a rough last couple of weeks. Now go away.

Haha haha. Post whatever you want. I need a good laugh today.
BTW My last couple of weeks has been just fine. You truly are arrogant if you believe anything you post bothers me.

[BillyCarpenter]

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Haha haha. Post whatever you want. I need a good laugh today.
BTW My last couple of weeks has been just fine. You truly are arrogant if you believe anything you post bothers me.

Oh, it bothers the hell out of you. But credit where credit is due. At least you didn't report me like SalesServiceGuy. That dude is even more feminine than you. The slightest thing triggers him.

[BillyCarpenter]

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Also, I want to explain why Canadians don't believe in free speech. It's because they don't have free speech in Canada. In fact, a comedian has been brought before Canada's highest court for making a joke about a kid with a medical condition.


Read this:





Think Canada Allows Freedom of Speech? Think Again





This societal need to prosecute potty mouths and anything deemed offensive has become a popular trend in Canada. Most recently this has been transcended into anti-bullying laws introduced in legislatures all over the country.We have to be careful about legislating offensiveness. We cannot allow the government to decide what subjective comments are acceptable and which should land you in prison. Britain is taking steps to restore absolute freedom of speech, so should Canada.




On December 12, Lord Dear introduced a motion to reform section 5 from the Public Order Act 1986 in the British House of Lords. Section 5 says that a person is guilty of an offence in Britain if he

"uses threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour, or disorderly behaviour, or displays any writing, sign or other visible representation which is threatening, abusive or insulting, within the hearing or sight of a person likely to be caused harassment, alarm or distress thereby."

Essentially, it makes it illegal to insult anyone.

Reform Section 5, a campaign dedicated to removing the illegality of "insulting words or behaviour" from the law, has gotten a lot of attention in Britain with their slogan "Feel Free to Insult Me." They launched their mission after a man was arrested for asking a police officer, "do you realize your horse is gay?" A horse. While the officer himself admitted to not being insulted, he stated that the comment could have insulted anyone in the vicinity who heard it. Makes sense, right?

51,285 people were found guilty in court of having violated section 5, including 8,489 minors ranging from 10 to 17 years of age. Can you imagine a 10-year-old boy facing a judge having to explain why he broke the law and called his teacher stupid? Kids don't know the consequences of their actions and don't always think before they speak. Should they really be held to the same standards as adults?

Getting rid of this ludicrous legislation has attracted a lot of support, most notably from actor Rowan Atkinson. In a beautifully worded speech better heard than paraphrased, he describes the damage such a restriction of freedom of speech does to a society. He rightfully states that the solution to insults is not more legislation, but more insults. It's the only way to distinguish between truly hurtful acts and mere empty words. "If we want a robust society, we need more robust dialogue and that must include the right to insult or to offend. Because, as someone once said, the freedom to be inoffensive is no freedom at all."

That got me thinking: this would never happen in Canada, right?

Well it could.

Section 1 of the Constitution Act 1982 gives Canadians the right to free speech, but with "reasonable limits." This ensures that almost anything one says can be considered unconstitutional and subject to legal prosecution. You have a right to speak your mind, but be careful of what you say.

Then there's section 13 of the Canadian Human Rights Act. This prohibits the "communication of hate messages." Though a bill to repeal section 13 is currently passing through the Senate, Human Rights courts all over the country are littered with cases that are best characterized by an insane hypersensitivity to what other people have to say. Section 319.2 of the Criminal Code outlaws the willful promotion of hatred "against an identifiable group," and section 319.1 bans any incitements that "lead to a breach of peace."

All these terms -- reasonable limits, hate messages, breach of peace -- are subjective terms that are utilized by those who feel it is their duty to enforce political correctness and prosecute anyone who offends them. Yet we have to be careful about legislating offensiveness. Nothing anyone says in inherently offensive. It is not an objective matter. Rather, if someone is offended by anything, it is their own fault. The values they hold, the standards they live by, or the beliefs they hold dearly have been violated, but it was not necessarily the intention of the speaker and they are not necessarily communal values. What insults one person might not even be noticed by another.

Laws in a 21st century democratic nation are not meant to set a moral standard. We cannot allow the government to decide what subjective comments are acceptable and which should land you in prison. Laws are there to protect society by outlawing physical violence and crimes that leave long-term damage on the victims. An offensive word does not qualify by this standard. We might not like what we hear, but we can't censor the world based on quality and hurt feelings.

This societal need to prosecute potty mouths and anything deemed offensive has become a popular trend in Canada. Most recently this has been transcended into anti-bullying laws introduced in legislatures all over the country. Bullying, as most people can remember from high school, has always been around. Yet we are much more sensitive to it today. And while we can acknowledge that lawmakers have their hearts in the right place when they come up with these laws, we must be extremely vigilant of its effects.

Under new zero-tolerance anti-bullying laws, children could get expelled from school for saying something negative to one of their peers. Alberta's proposed Education Act will give schools the power to stalk students on Facebook for any comments that could be deemed a form of bullying, leading to suspensions and expulsion. They are instilling new laws that actively seek to find reasons to punish children instead of focusing on truly bad behaviour that leads to physical or psychological damage in a school's immediate jurisdiction. Instead, good behaviour should be enforced, encouraged, and kids should be taught how to be indifferent to verbal bullying and how to stand up to bad behaviour.

What kind of values are these new laws creating? It tells kids that any comment that one should normally brush off becomes a bullet, a hurtful statement that requires years of therapy to overcome. Kids will be so afraid to joke around with one another like normal children do that when someone does say something offensive, they'll have no social mechanism to deal with it. Instead of targeting real bullies, the new laws would put even the best of children who make occasional comportment mistakes on the defensive. If every child in school becomes responsible for every bad little word they've ever said, our schools would be empty.

Anti-bullying measures are popular now, but its true danger will be exposed the day you read Timmy with the straight A's was expelled from his elementary school for a single snide comment on the playground. Human Rights courts sound like a good idea in theory, until you hear the story of the mother who tried to ban acorns from her daughter's school because it "violated" her human rights. Or the prisoners convicted for murder and rape who sued the government because their human rights were violated -- proper barber services were not provided in their prison cells.

[Copier Addict]

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Oh, it bothers the hell out of you. But credit where credit is due. At least you didn't report me like SalesServiceGuy. That dude is even more feminine than you. The slightest thing triggers him.

Haha haha. Once again you don't disappoint. You are so easy to manipulate. That likely is why trump is able to fool you so easily.
So, I'm still waiting for what you were holding back. Come on. Show us all your intellect. Lol

[BillyCarpenter]

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Haha haha. Once again you don't disappoint. You are so easy to manipulate. That likely is why trump is able to fool you so easily.
So, I'm still waiting for what you were holding back. Come on. Show us all your intellect. Lol

Wait no more.

First you said you'd date a tranny. When I later pointed that out, you told me that you were lying when you said that. It was at that point that I started to feel sorry for you. I'm not joking. I really felt compassion for you. Why? Because you're so worried about what people think of you that you'd lie about dating a tranny.

When I talk to you, I don't see a confident man. I see a scared man that can't say what he means out of fear of being judged by others. That's a terrible way to go thru life. Say what you mean, mean what you say and stop worrying about being judged by others.

[Copier Addict]

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Wait no more.

First you said you'd date a tranny. When I later pointed that out, you told me that you were lying when you said that. It was at that point that I started to feel sorry for you. I'm not joking. I really felt compassion for you. Why? Because you're so worried about what people think of you that you'd lie about dating a tranny.

When I talk to you, I don't see a confident man. I see a scared man that can't say what he means out of fear of being judged by others. That's a terrible way to go thru life. Say what you mean, mean what you say and stop worrying about being judged by others.

Well, I guess you have it all figured out. Bravo!!

[BillyCarpenter]

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Well, I guess you have it all figured out. Bravo!!

Look, I'm being serious. You need to stop worrying about being judged by liberals. Or anyone else for that matter.


Let me give you an example. I've said more than once on this site that I don't believe in God. Do you think that is popular with conservatives and republicans? Hell no it's not. My family doesn't even like when I say it. Guess what, I don't care. That's what I believe. I don't go thru life worrying about how folks judge me.