25% Copier/ Printers Tariffs in the USA begin Friday May 10 2019 12:01 AM.

[bsm2]

Re: 25% Copier/ Printers Tariffs in the USA begin Friday May 10 2019 12:01 AM.

Yep China's going to WAIT Only 616 Days left in office
China has already started shipping through Canada and Mexico paying ZERO.
Trumps China company's are most likely going to ZERO.
I wonder if they could only print labels Made in Japan

How long until Trump leaves

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[Hansen88]

Re: 25% Copier/ Printers Tariffs in the USA begin Friday May 10 2019 12:01 AM.

You should buy the stickers and then wrap them around your typing fingers and give us all a break here.

[SalesServiceGuy]

Re: 25% Copier/ Printers Tariffs in the USA begin Friday May 10 2019 12:01 AM.

A3 copier manufacturers are starting to make plans to shift production out of China.

TOKYO -- Japanese office equipment maker Ricoh plans to shift production of multifunction printers for the American market out of China and consolidate in Thailand, Nikkei has learned.

Ricoh moves output to Thailand as China tariffs extend to printers -
Nikkei Asian Review


The move, which will take place as early as this summer, anticipates a fourth and final round of tariffs in the U.S.-China trade war which includes printers.


Industry peers Fuji Xerox and Canon said they are watching developments on U.S. tariffs. More production shifts could follow if the threatened levies of up to 25% on roughly 3,800 goods take effect. A decision by U.S. President Donald Trump is expected as early as late June.



Ricoh makes printers for the U.S. market in the southern Chinese city of Shenzhen and in Thailand's central Rayong Province. The production shift will see output of high-end models now made in Shenzhen move to Thailand, which will produce all Ricoh printers bound for the U.S.


The Tokyo-based company has begun to increase Thai production capacity ahead of the transfer and expects it to move quickly. The Chinese- and Thai-made printer models share 70% to 80% of the same components.


After the transfer, Ricoh's Shenzhen facilities will continue to build printers for European and Asian markets, including Japan. U.S.-bound output accounts for about a tenth of the facilities' production.


The Americas constitute Ricoh's biggest region for sales outside Japan, accounting for about 30% of the company's roughly 1.09 trillion yen ($9.97 billion) in printer segment sales for the year ended in March.


Faced with sluggish demand for printers as businesses use less paper, Ricoh and its peers would face difficulty passing on tariff-related cost increases to consumers, analysts say. The threatened duties raise a problem for Japanese makers of multifunction printers, which hold a roughly 70% combined global market share.


A spokesperson for Fuji Xerox said the company "will consider the best response while closely watching developments." Canon also said it was watching the situation.


The proposed fourth round of U.S. tariffs on Chinese goods targets products for which American depends heavily on China. China accounts for 52% of the value of U.S. imports of multifunction printers, U.S. trade statistics show.

[bsm2]

Re: 25% Copier/ Printers Tariffs in the USA begin Friday May 10 2019 12:01 AM.

Walmart and Macy's warn China tariffs mean higher prices for U.S. shoppers

[allan]

Re: 25% Copier/ Printers Tariffs in the USA begin Friday May 10 2019 12:01 AM.

Just because you need to add a spoon less sugar in your coffee does not equate to suffering.
We have fallen away to decadence and we think these everyday consumeristic luxuries have become a right.
Its the magnet stuck to your compass.

[Copier Addict]

Re: 25% Copier/ Printers Tariffs in the USA begin Friday May 10 2019 12:01 AM.

Just because you need to add a spoon less sugar in your coffee does not equate to suffering.
We have fallen away to decadence and we think these everyday consumeristic luxuries have become a right.
Its the magnet stuck to your compass.

That's what the people who implement these hardships on the less fortunate say, as they know it won't affect themselves.
They take the money from the ones least able to give it while they hire accountants to get them out of paying their share of taxes.

[SalesServiceGuy]

Re: 25% Copier/ Printers Tariffs in the USA begin Friday May 10 2019 12:01 AM.

I have a couple of Toshiba parts right in front of me.

Sensor - Made in Malaysia
Sensor - Made in Korea
Developer - Made in China
Feed Rollers - Made in China
Imaging Drum - Made in China
Fuser Roller - Made in China
Toner- Made in the USA

Obviously copier parts are made in many countries around the world and there is the real risk that the cost of some copier/ printer parts will soon increase negatively effecting profitability from the Service Dept.

From a sales point of view, all inclusive cpc rates might soon be forced to increase on new multi year contract commitments.

It is important to note that the parts going into a new machine will hopefully last many months before they require replacement.
I suspect most copier manufactures will have figured out a way to reroute their supply chains by then to avoid paying tariffs.
Probably the two biggest expenses in a cpc contract are toner and labour.
Labour is obviously not subject to tariffs. Possible toner tariffs depends on where it is manufactured.
Maybe there will not be much of a hit at all on new machine cpc contracts.
On the flip side, used machines are definitely at risk of increased parts costs in the USA.

[bsm2]

Re: 25% Copier/ Printers Tariffs in the USA begin Friday May 10 2019 12:01 AM.

It is important to note that the parts going into a new machine will hopefully last many months before they require replacement.
I suspect most copier manufactures will have figured out a way to reroute their supply chains by then to avoid paying tariffs.
Probably the two biggest expenses in a cpc contract are toner and labour.
Labour is obviously not subject to tariffs. Possible toner tariffs depends on where it is manufactured.
Maybe there will not be much of a hit at all on new machine cpc contracts.
On the flip side, used machines are definitely at risk of increased parts costs in the USA.

New contract can be adjusted to counter increase in machine costs, toner and parts. However .....
Service contracts are usually set a fix rate for one year, so any increase in toner, parts, etc..... the dealer is going to have to eat. Meaning the OWNER will be looking at cutting any other cost, using NON OEM parts , cutting employees, raises, and bonus BYE BYE! Who say's TRUMPO won't raise them even more?

[allan]

Re: 25% Copier/ Printers Tariffs in the USA begin Friday May 10 2019 12:01 AM.

That's what the people who implement these hardships on the less fortunate say, as they know it won't affect themselves.
They take the money from the ones least able to give it while they hire accountants to get them out of paying their share of taxes.

Its all about knowledge and the lack of it.
"less fortunate" That is a state of mind.
There are guys in this world that comes from a street corner but has worked there way "up".
You take that same guy and strip him of everything and put him back on that corner he is not going to stay there long.
Now the next guy would look at this guy while he is in his prime and complain about his privilege.

We want this amazing government that does great things for us.

1 Sam 8:1-18

[SalesServiceGuy]

Re: 25% Copier/ Printers Tariffs in the USA begin Friday May 10 2019 12:01 AM.

In a welcome move to prove that it is possible to discontinue tariffs, the USA, Canada & Mexico announced today the dropping off all steel and aluminum tariffs against each other by this weekend.

Canada, U.S. reach deal to lift steel and aluminum tariffs within 2 days | CBC News

One of President Trump's key initiatives was the signing of the new North American free trade agreement. After constant talks with Canada, Mexico and members of the US Senate and Congress that the trade agreement would not be ratified unless the tariffs were dropped, the President saw the light and agreed to drop all the tariffs that he imposed.

[bsm2]

Re: 25% Copier/ Printers Tariffs in the USA begin Friday May 10 2019 12:01 AM.

In a welcome move to prove that it is possible to discontinue tariffs, the USA, Canada & Mexico announced today the dropping off all steel and aluminum tariffs against each other by this weekend.

Canada, U.S. reach deal to lift steel and aluminum tariffs within 2 days | CBC News

One of President Trump's key initiatives was the signing of the new North American free trade agreement. After constant talks with Canada, Mexico and members of the US Senate and Congress that the trade agreement would not be ratified unless the tariffs were dropped, the President saw the light and agreed to drop all the tariffs that he imposed.

Only ONE problem! NOBODY but Trump likes the DEAL! Neither the HOUSE or Senate will pass it.

[SalesServiceGuy]

Re: 25% Copier/ Printers Tariffs in the USA begin Friday May 10 2019 12:01 AM.

I predict 90% you are wrong!

The USA needs to pass the USMCA ( the new NAFTA) as fast as possible to focus on the Trade war with China.

BTW (by the way) the Trump tariffs on China are the largest tax increase on American consumers since 1993.

Trump'''s tariffs equivalent to one of the largest tax hikes in decades

I think you need to dial back you dislike of Trump just a little bit. He is despicable (Hello Hillary) but he occasionally gets a few things (not many) somewhat to partially right.

I am somewhat with Trump on the tariffs but I think it could have been packaged and thought out much better when presented on the global stage.

1,000 Trump wrongs do not make up for a very few Trump things right.

I know the Trump defence is the roaring US economy but it has not lifted all citizens equally and gutted many benefits for low income citizens.

President Obama was much better at thinking ahead like a chess match. Obama was know to say to his advisors, I can do this now but what are the consequences foreseen and unknown three moves in advance.

I wonder if Trump ever played Chess?

[SalesServiceGuy]

Re: 25% Copier/ Printers Tariffs in the USA begin Friday May 10 2019 12:01 AM.

This South African man has lived in China for more than ten years.

I highly value his opinions on China.

YouTube

He correctly points out that China has benefited enormously by near free shipping subsidies rebated back to the Universal Postal Union.

Universal Postal Union - Wikipedia

These subsidies were originally designed to support growing 3rd world countries and promote democracy.

President Trump correctly identified these subsidies as China being taken advantage of by China. As a result the USA has declared

"On October 17, 2018, the United States has declared its withdrawal from the UPU, effective October 17, 2019, with the US planning to switch to self-declared rates."

I learned about these postal subsidies when I unknowingly purchase some clothing from China at a very low cost.. It took a while for the goods to arrive but it bothered me how could you possibly ship goods all the way from China that cheap. The quality of the goods was good but I will not buy anything knowingly directly from China again. Amazon is definitely guilty of taking advantage of this subsidy.

[Copier Addict]

Re: 25% Copier/ Printers Tariffs in the USA begin Friday May 10 2019 12:01 AM.

This South African man has lived in China for more than ten years.

I highly value his opinions on China.

YouTube

He correctly points out that China has benefited enormously by near free shipping subsidies rebated back to the Universal Postal Union.

Universal Postal Union - Wikipedia

These subsidies were originally designed to support growing 3rd world countries and promote democracy.

President Trump correctly identified these subsidies as China being taken advantage of by China. As a result the USA has declared

"On October 17, 2018, the United States has declared its withdrawal from the UPU, effective October 17, 2019, with the US planning to switch to self-declared rates."

I learned about these postal subsidies when I unknowingly purchase some clothing from China at a very low cost.. It took a while for the goods to arrive but it bothered me how could you possibly ship goods all the way from China that cheap. The quality of the goods was good but I will not buy anything knowingly directly from China again. Amazon is definitely guilty of taking advantage of this subsidy.

I try to avoid buying anything made in China. It is impossible to avoid it completely, but if there is an alternative I will buy it even if it costs more.
I definitely will NOT buy any food from China. It just kinda seems unsafe to me.

[bsm2]

Re: 25% Copier/ Printers Tariffs in the USA begin Friday May 10 2019 12:01 AM.

I predict 90% you are wrong!

The USA needs to pass the USMCA ( the new NAFTA) as fast as possible to focus on the Trade war with China.

BTW (by the way) the Trump tariffs on China are the largest tax increase on American consumers since 1993.

Trump'''s tariffs equivalent to one of the largest tax hikes in decades

I think you need to dial back you dislike of Trump just a little bit. He is despicable (Hello Hillary) but he occasionally gets a few things (not many) somewhat to partially right.

I am somewhat with Trump on the tariffs but I think it could have been packaged and thought out much better when presented on the global stage.

1,000 Trump wrongs do not make up for a very few Trump things right.

I know the Trump defence is the roaring US economy but it has not lifted all citizens equally and gutted many benefits for low income citizens.

President Obama was much better at thinking ahead like a chess match. Obama was know to say to his advisors, I can do this now but what are the consequences foreseen and unknown three moves in advance.

I wonder if Trump ever played Chess?

Yep TRUMP needs a WIN! However his ART of DEAL, IE hit you over the head with hammer tactics DON'T work any more. With Trump ONLY 612 Days in office look for all MOST ZERO getting done as the HOUSE will not likely PASS anything by TRUMP. CHINA the same will happen CHINA will wait until next election to deal with the next President. Like you said it's Chess.