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  • allan
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    #16
    Re: 3D printed copier/printer parts.

    Originally posted by srvctec
    allan, are you having issues with these parts breaking in the field? Or is this more of just a see what you can 3D build for copier parts? I ask because I've never seen one of those parts on the transfer roller break on these models. Pretty sure we've never had one break at all in the field. I have had some broken in the box when it was shipped, though.

    I love stuff like this and wish I had the skill to 3D model. Of course, if I would have gone into drafting 33+ years ago like I had considered, I would have that skill but wouldn't be servicing copiers.
    They wear sharp and cant be reused like the older B250 were the transfer rollers did not need to be replaced for this issue and lasted 500K plus.
    The drums scratch bands were those parts touch the drum. Now gaving a parametric 3D model of the part i can look into what need to change to improve the durability.
    Will make them from 2 kinds of plastic. The part toughing the drum with PLA, ABS or PETG and the bushing part from nylon.
    Seemed that they had to choose a material that will serve well as bushing but not the greatest stuff to run against an OPC drum.

    The thing that gets to me here is that i used to do some real awesome stuff in a batch manufacturing shop starting with a 1KW CO2 laser and CNC bender. The machine side had a CNC lathe and a CNC miliing machine.
    Specialized welding and then an assembly section. Mostly made elevator doors, door frames(entrance styles), door drives, car interiors and shaft trimmers. The shop was in a scientific research facility where they rented some floor space out.
    From aircraft parts to vandal proof weather station and what else. Could draft in real time from verbal instructions given by some guy onsite, fax a drawing back and then get go ahead. Fun and frustrating but mostly fun.

    Problem with that was i did know know how valuable those skills where at the time and excepted very little money for it, don't have any engineering degrees to back me up.
    For me swinging a cloth at a copier paid better.

    Get fusion 360 installed on your PC it is cloud based with limited offline.
    Follow the tutorials it not that painful take your time.

    Drafting is fun but you need to get into it. I have a hard time sitting down for hours on end.
    Whatever

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    • allan
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      #17
      Re: 3D printed copier/printer parts.

      Fishing_Box v4.jpg
      Did this to fit in my fishing bag. Laser cut from 3mm stabilized MDF. Done by the local hobby shop.
      Took me a couple of hours to create the Multi body in-place to get the 2D profiles i needed.
      Super glues together.
      .jpg
      You don't need professional plans to get parts done. As long as you can submit it with enough info for them not to mess it up most manufacturers will work with it.
      Whatever

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      • qbert69
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        #18
        Re: 3D printed copier/printer parts.

        Originally posted by allan
        They wear sharp and cant be reused like the older B250 were the transfer rollers did not need to be replaced for this issue and lasted 500K plus.
        The drums scratch bands were those parts touch the drum. Now gaving a parametric 3D model of the part i can look into what need to change to improve the durability.
        Will make them from 2 kinds of plastic. The part toughing the drum with PLA, ABS or PETG and the bushing part from nylon.
        Seemed that they had to choose a material that will serve well as bushing but not the greatest stuff to run against an OPC drum.

        The thing that gets to me here is that i used to do some real awesome stuff in a batch manufacturing shop starting with a 1KW CO2 laser and CNC bender. The machine side had a CNC lathe and a CNC miliing machine.
        Specialized welding and then an assembly section. Mostly made elevator doors, door frames(entrance styles), door drives, car interiors and shaft trimmers. The shop was in a scientific research facility where they rented some floor space out.
        From aircraft parts to vandal proof weather station and what else. Could draft in real time from verbal instructions given by some guy onsite, fax a drawing back and then get go ahead. Fun and frustrating but mostly fun.

        Problem with that was i did know know how valuable those skills where at the time and excepted very little money for it, don't have any engineering degrees to back me up.
        For me swinging a cloth at a copier paid better.

        Get fusion 360 installed on your PC it is cloud based with limited offline.
        Follow the tutorials it not that painful take your time.

        Drafting is fun but you need to get into it. I have a hard time sitting down for hours on end.
        Pick-off pawls that run on the drum surface are usually nylon!!![emoji6]

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        • allan
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          #19
          Re: 3D printed copier/printer parts.

          If you ever loose your pipe attachment for your 3M/Katun toner vac then here is a 3d printed part that could help.
          Lost mine thru a massive gap between the landing and car sill of an elevator, wonder if its still down in the pit...

          Used a 12mm OD pneumatic air pipe for the extended bit. Its not grounded!
          There are two STL files one with vents and one without. I blocked them by hand anyway so the one i printed does not have them.

          https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4515072/files

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          Whatever

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          • qbert69
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            #20
            Re: 3D printed copier/printer parts.

            Originally posted by allan
            If you ever loose your pipe attachment for your 3M/Katun toner vac then here is a 3d printed part that could help.
            Lost mine thru a massive gap between the landing and car sill of an elevator, wonder if its still down in the pit...

            Used a 12mm OD pneumatic air pipe for the extended bit. Its not grounded!
            There are two STL files one with vents and one without. I blocked them by hand anyway so the one i printed does not have them.

            https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4515072/files

            [ATTACH=CONFIG]46065[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]46066[/ATTACH]


            Did you print with PET-G or PLA???[emoji848]

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            • allan
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              #21
              Re: 3D printed copier/printer parts.

              Originally posted by qbert69
              Did you print with PET-G or PLA???[emoji848]

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              Used PLA.
              PETG will work just fine.
              Will add one with thicker walls as well. Its 1.5mm currently but should be fine, will add a part with 2mm walls.
              Whatever

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              • qbert69
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                #22
                Re: 3D printed copier/printer parts.

                Originally posted by allan
                Used PLA.
                PETG will work just fine.
                Will add one with thicker walls as well. Its 1.5mm currently but should be fine, will add a part with 2mm walls.
                I'm not too keen on using PET-G as I've had it fracture across print layers!!! PLA on the other hand seems to have very good structural integrity!!![emoji16][emoji1303]

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                • allan
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                  #23
                  Re: 3D printed copier/printer parts.

                  Ok added a stronger version. PETG would be my choice but don't have any.
                  3 Months with no income...
                  PETG likes lower layer height and around 250 deg C for nozzle temp.
                  Whatever

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                  • qbert69
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                    #24
                    Re: 3D printed copier/printer parts.

                    Originally posted by allan
                    Ok added a stronger version. PETG would be my choice but don't have any.
                    3 Months with no income...
                    PETG likes lower layer height and around 250 deg C for nozzle temp.
                    REACH FOR THE STARS!!!
                    Konica Minolta Planetariums!
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                    • allan
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                      #25
                      Re: 3D printed copier/printer parts.

                      Make sure your bed temp is at 70 deg C. The PETG parts should be much stronger than PLA without the degrading properties under sunlight and water.
                      For PLA 200 to 220 for nozzle temp should be good otherwise the retraction will not keep up to avoid stringing.
                      Whatever

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                      • qbert69
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                        #26
                        Re: 3D printed copier/printer parts.

                        Originally posted by allan
                        Make sure your bed temp is at 70 deg C. The PETG parts should be much stronger than PLA without the degrading properties under sunlight and water.
                        For PLA 200 to 220 for nozzle temp should be good otherwise the retraction will not keep up to avoid stringing.
                        REACH FOR THE STARS!!!
                        Konica Minolta Planetariums!
                        https://www.konicaminolta.com/planet...gma/index.html

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                        • allan
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                          #27
                          Re: 3D printed copier/printer parts.

                          Another vacuum nozzle. Keep on loosing them...
                          Had a fun lime modeling with lofts. Look 5min in Fusion360!
                          Form a circle to an ellipse to a rectangle. Plenty strong.
                          Black PLA would be best.

                          3M toner vacuum nozzle by Willitbreak - Thingiverse
                          20200703_073559.jpg
                          Whatever

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                          • allan
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                            #28
                            Re: 3D printed copier/printer parts.

                            Originally posted by allan
                            If you ever loose your pipe attachment for your 3M/Katun toner vac then here is a 3d printed part that could help.
                            Lost mine thru a massive gap between the landing and car sill of an elevator, wonder if its still down in the pit...

                            Used a 12mm OD pneumatic air pipe for the extended bit. Its not grounded!
                            There are two STL files one with vents and one without. I blocked them by hand anyway so the one i printed does not have them.

                            https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4515072/files

                            [ATTACH=CONFIG]46065[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]46066[/ATTACH]


                            Ok so the first print did not have vent holes at the base and the 12mm pipe works well but could be a bit tight.
                            The vacuum over heated and cut out after 5min .
                            Print the .stl file with vents.
                            Whatever

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                            • qbert69
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                              #29
                              Re: 3D printed copier/printer parts.

                              Originally posted by allan
                              Ok so the first print did not have vent holes at the base and the 12mm pipe works well but could be a bit tight.
                              The vacuum over heated and cut out after 5min .
                              Print the .stl file with vents.
                              Possibly make a snap on rotatable sleeve with holes so you can adjust the suction???[emoji848]

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                              • allan
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                                #30
                                Re: 3D printed copier/printer parts.

                                Originally posted by qbert69
                                Possibly make a snap on rotatable sleeve with holes so you can adjust the suction???[emoji848]

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                                Yea not a bad idea. Should be able to print-in-place.
                                Whatever

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