Let the truth be known

[SalesServiceGuy]

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Finally we agree on something. By lowering the massive tax burden on corporations and cutting restrictive regulation, it actually "juices" the economy.

... The USA and its future generations will pay for his near sighted achievements for the next decade.

[BillyCarpenter]

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... The USA and its future generations will pay for his near sighted achievements for the next decade.

That's what liberals said when Reagan lowed taxes and cut regulation. Your only problem is that the opposite happened under Reagan and the sky didn't fall.



During the Reagan administration, real GDP growth averaged 3.5%, compared to 2.9% during the preceding eight years. The annual average unemployment rate declined by 1.7 percentage points, from 7.2% in 1980 to 5.5% in 1988, after it had increased by 1.6 percentage points over the preceding eight years.

[slimslob]

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No offense, but you wouldn't know honest debate if it grabbed you by the arm and gave you a shake. Lol.
You amigos ask for sources and then attempt to discredit the one who posts it

I for one ask for valid creditable news sources. CNN and the rest of the lame stream media are not creditable. But when I post references to news sources, even ones like the New York Times you call it fake.

[BillyCarpenter]

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I for one ask for valid creditable news sources. CNN and the rest of the lame stream media are not creditable. But when I post references to news sources, even ones like the New York Times you call it fake.

Good luck with that. I gave up.

[Copier Addict]

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I for one ask for valid creditable news sources. CNN and the rest of the lame stream media are not creditable. But when I post references to news sources, even ones like the New York Times you call it fake.

I would like to see that

[BillyCarpenter]

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How on earth did I become a victim?

That's hard to say. My best guess is because you were born in Canada and you were raised to believe that the government should provide for you. In other words, you believe that people who fail are victims of the society in which they live.

[Copier Addict]

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That's hard to say. My best guess is because you were born in Canada and you were raised to believe that the government should provide for you. In other words, you believe that people who fail are victims of the society in which they live.

Hahaha. Your complete lack of knowledge about Canada is astounding.

You know nothing about Canada , and every time you talk about Canada you prove it

[BillyCarpenter]

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Hahaha. Your complete lack of knowledge about Canada is astounding.

You know nothing about Canada , and every time you talk about Canada you prove it

What's there to know? Canada is a bit player on the world stage. No one talks about you. We mostly forget you're there. That probably explains your constant need to bash the USA. At least that way folks will pay attention to you.

[Copier Addict]

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What's there to know? Canada is a bit player on the world stage. No one talks about you. We mostly forget you're there. That probably explains your constant need to bash the USA. At least that way folks will pay attention to you.

I don't remember bashing the US. I maybe have bashed the government, but not the country. I will leave the country bashing to you. It seems to be one thing you are half decent at.
Anyway, you are getting quite boring. I may not respond about this again.

[BillyCarpenter]

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I don't remember bashing the US. I maybe have bashed the government, but not the country. I will leave the country bashing to you. It seems to be one thing you are half decent at.
Anyway, you are getting quite boring. I may not respond about this again.

You've "maybe" bashed the government?

I see. In your mind Canada has it figured out and the USA should follow your lead. Sure, bro.

[slimslob]

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I don't remember bashing the US. I maybe have bashed the government, but not the country. I will leave the country bashing to you. It seems to be one thing you are half decent at.
Anyway, you are getting quite boring. I may not respond about this again.

Sorry to say but bashing the US is what you do most of the time on this thread.

[bsm2]

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[SalesServiceGuy]

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John Turner, former Canadian Prime Minister, who passed away in September, was particularly fond of a phrase that could stand now as an abiding lesson for everyone who has watched the chaotic last four years of the American experiment.

Things fall apart in the United States — and Canada takes a hard look in the mirror | CBC News

"Democracy," the former prime minister used to say, "does not happen by accident."
He seemed to have meant that as a call for democratic and political participation. It works equally as well as a broader statement on democracy itself and the steady progress it's supposed to facilitate — neither of which can be taken as automatic or inevitable.

"America is no fragile thing," former president Barack Obama said nearly four years ago as he prepared to leave the White House. "But the gains of our long journey to freedom are not assured."

The United States has offered the world a demonstration of how things can fall apart — not in one cataclysmic moment, but slowly and steadily over a long period of time as institutions and ideas erode and crumble.

Now, at the conclusion of another presidential election campaign, the ability of the United States to fulfil even the basic requirements of democracy — free and fair elections and a peaceful transfer of power — is in doubt. "Democracy is on the ballot in this election," Harvard political scientist Pippa Norris recently said.

Every other country on earth has to deal with the ramifications of what's happening now in the U.S. But beyond those consequences, there's another question for every other democracy: how do you make sure your own country doesn't end up like that?


Everything was not all right for the United States before 2016 — but it was easier to take a great many things for granted. "Until recently, we Americans had convinced ourselves that there was nothing in the future but more of the same," the American historian Timothy Snyder wrote in On Tyranny. "We allowed ourselves to accept the politics of inevitability, the sense that history could move in only one direction: toward liberal democracy."

Four years later, the United States is a global symbol of political and state dysfunction, "constitutional hardball," corruption, misinformation, tribalism, racism, nationalism, conspiracy theories, falsehood, distrust and civil unrest.

In the past six months, more than 225,000 Americans have died of a contagious disease — at least in part because their government could not be roused to properly confront it — and the governing party's members and supporters were not willing to abandon it in response.

[BillyCarpenter]

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John Turner, former Canadian Prime Minister, who passed away in September, was particularly fond of a phrase that could stand now as an abiding lesson for everyone who has watched the chaotic last four years of the American experiment.

Things fall apart in the United States — and Canada takes a hard look in the mirror | CBC News

"Democracy," the former prime minister used to say, "does not happen by accident."
He seemed to have meant that as a call for democratic and political participation. It works equally as well as a broader statement on democracy itself and the steady progress it's supposed to facilitate — neither of which can be taken as automatic or inevitable.

"America is no fragile thing," former president Barack Obama said nearly four years ago as he prepared to leave the White House. "But the gains of our long journey to freedom are not assured."

The United States has offered the world a demonstration of how things can fall apart — not in one cataclysmic moment, but slowly and steadily over a long period of time as institutions and ideas erode and crumble.

Now, at the conclusion of another presidential election campaign, the ability of the United States to fulfil even the basic requirements of democracy — free and fair elections and a peaceful transfer of power — is in doubt. "Democracy is on the ballot in this election," Harvard political scientist Pippa Norris recently said.

Every other country on earth has to deal with the ramifications of what's happening now in the U.S. But beyond those consequences, there's another question for every other democracy: how do you make sure your own country doesn't end up like that?


Everything was not all right for the United States before 2016 — but it was easier to take a great many things for granted. "Until recently, we Americans had convinced ourselves that there was nothing in the future but more of the same," the American historian Timothy Snyder wrote in On Tyranny. "We allowed ourselves to accept the politics of inevitability, the sense that history could move in only one direction: toward liberal democracy."

Four years later, the United States is a global symbol of political and state dysfunction, "constitutional hardball," corruption, misinformation, tribalism, racism, nationalism, conspiracy theories, falsehood, distrust and civil unrest.

In the past six months, more than 225,000 Americans have died of a contagious disease — at least in part because their government could not be roused to properly confront it — and the governing party's members and supporters were not willing to abandon it in response.

Democracy isn't perfect. Often times it can be messy. There are competing ideas. Capitalism vs. Socialism. The USA has slowing been trending towards socialism for a couple of decades. Or longer.

There's little debate that the USA leads the world when it comes to ideas and innovation. Most of the things we use today can be traced back to the USA: Google, Facebook, Twitter, Iphone, ect. That didn't happen by accident.

To all those predicting the demise of the USA...don't bet the farm. We've been through much harder times: World Wars, Civil War, Great Depression, ect.

Make no mistake, there is a battle taking place for the heart and soul of the country but other countries better hope like hell that America continues to lead the free world because there's no other country that is ready to step up and you'll miss us greatly if we're not around. In fact, if you live in another country, your survival could depend on it.

[SalesServiceGuy]

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Democracy isn't perfect. Often times it can be messy. There are competing ideas. Capitalism vs. Socialism. The USA has slowing been trending towards socialism for a couple of decades. Or longer.

There's little debate that the USA leads the world when it comes to ideas and innovation. Most of the things we use today can be traced back to the USA: Google, Facebook, Twitter, Iphone, ect. That didn't happen by accident.

To all those predicting the demise of the USA...don't bet the farm. We've been through much harder times: World Wars, Civil War, Great Depression, ect.

Make no mistake, there is a battle taking place for the heart and soul of the country but other countries better hope like hell that America continues to lead the free world because there's no other country that is ready to step up and you'll miss us greatly if we're not around. In fact, if you live in another country, your survival could depend on it.

America has endured four years of failed leadership. Next Tuesday 60% of its citizens are expected to choose a different path back to what truly made America great and elect President Biden. Voter turnout prior to election day is already at historic levels. This is bad news for Republicans who despite all of their efforts to suppress voter turnout are likely to lose Congress, the Senate and the Presidency.