Let the truth be known

[Phil B.]

Re: Let the truth be known

I'm just saying he is in love with other despots and truly wants to be one. That is why he needs to be prevented from running.

name these DESPOTS...

and is it LOVE or diplomatic RESPECT ?

doubt you'll answer to these points since you always deflect and run.. just like a typical liberal when caught in the corner

[BillyCarpenter]

Re: Let the truth be known

I'm just saying he is in love with other despots and truly wants to be one. That is why he needs to be prevented from running.

You mean like killing Iran's top general and calling Kim jong un "Little Rocket Man"? I think Trump also told Kim that we'd wipe him off the face of the earth. Contrast that to Obama who sent billions to Iran in the dead of the night. Naw, man.

[Phil B.]

Re: Let the truth be known

this video is from the guys that make the BEST coffee in THE WORLD! ( did I mention that this is a VETERAN owned/run biz? THEY ROCK! )

Veteran's uncensored anti-ISIS song is definitely not safe for work


WHOAO FUCK ISIS I love it this is my new anthem! (maybe I'll substitute BIDEN for ISIS!

[BillyCarpenter]

Re: Let the truth be known

You mean like killing Iran's top general and calling Kim jong un "Little Rocket Man"? I think Trump also told Kim that we'd wipe him off the face of the earth. Contrast that to Obama who sent billions to Iran in the dead of the night. Naw, man.

EDIT: Not to mention cleaning up the ISIS mess that Obama left him.

[Tricky]

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SnifferJoe might follow trend and award them the Presidential Medal of Freedom ... LOMFL

Who knows it's a very strange world we live in.

'Gay' police horse case dropped

A student who called a mounted policeman's horse "gay" will not be prosecuted, it has been revealed.BBC NEWS | UK | England | Oxfordshire | 'Gay' police horse case dropped

[Phil B.]

Re: Let the truth be known

More proof that this " impeachment " is for political gain.... FUCK THE democrats ... HillBilly was guilty of the crimes.. Trump was NOT!


DOJ Announcement Provides Huge Evidence Trump Didn't Incite Insurrection

impeachingIronically, it could be what proves no incitement was involved.


On Wednesday, the Department of Justice announced three individuals affiliated with the Oath Keepers had been indicted for their alleged roles in planning the riot at the Capitolnews releaseFacebook and ParlerSky NewsOath Keepers

As Carrie Sheffield pointed out at Just the NewsFBIarticle of impeachmentTrump saidDover BeachThe Jerk

[Phil B.]

Re: Let the truth be known

Who knows it's a very strange world we live in.

'Gay' police horse case dropped

A student who called a mounted policeman's horse "gay" will not be prosecuted, it has been revealed.BBC NEWS | UK | England | Oxfordshire | 'Gay' police horse case dropped

this is getting TOTALLY OUT OF HAND. Did they ask the damn horse with which 'gender' did he identify with?

Insanity runs deep in the UK.

[bsm2]

Re: Let the truth be known

More proof that this " impeachment " is for political gain.... FUCK THE democrats ... HillBilly was guilty of the crimes.. Trump was NOT!


DOJ Announcement Provides Huge Evidence Trump Didn't Incite Insurrection

Impeachment is, at its heart, a political matter. There may be a veneer of the legal proceeding to it, but as the last few years have made clear, it’s effectively a matter of how many votes you can rustle up.
If you can convince enough people that the offense was grave enough to merit impeachment and conviction — or perhaps more to the point, if you can convince them it’s in their best interest to say the offense was grave enough — you win.
If Democrats impeaching former President Donald Trump hoped they could convince Republicans it’s in their interest to treat Trump’s speech before the Capitol incursion as incitement, you would think the arrests of several alleged far-right militia members would buttress their case. Ironically, it could be what proves no incitement was involved.


On Wednesday, the Department of Justice announced three individuals affiliated with the Oath Keepers had been indicted for their alleged roles in planning the riot at the Capitol. Jessica Marie Watkins, 38, and Donovan Ray Crowl, 50, are both from Champaign County, Ohio. Thomas Caldwell, 65, is from Clarke County, Virginia.
“According to the charging documents, Watkins, Crowl, and Caldwell communicated with each another in advance of the Jan. 6, 2021, incursion on the U.S. Capitol and coordinated their attack. Watkins, Crowl, and Caldwell are all affiliated with the Oath Keepers, while Watkins and Crowl are also members of the Ohio State Regular Militia,” a news release from the Department of Justice reads.

“Watkins claimed to be a commanding officer within the Ohio State Regular Militia in a social media post.”
Their social media posts on sites like Facebook and Parler on the day of the incursion indicated they were in the area, and indeed participating, in the riot, the DOJ said. Watkins allegedly posted a video of herself inside the Capitol with the caption, “Yeah. We stormed the Capitol today. Teargassed, the whole, 9. Pushed our way into the Rotunda. Made it into the Senate even. The news is lying (even Fox) about the Historical Events we created today.” My guess is that won’t be the line she uses in court.

What’s interesting about the news release, however, is the fact that authorities said the Oath Keepers members were in contact early, coordinating their actions as far back as November. They were also allegedly in close communication as the incursion happened.
Federal prosecutors say they have audio from a channel called “Stop the Steal J6″ on the Zello voice chat app that backs up their case this was an event planned with some level of diligence.

“We have a good group. We have about 30-40 of us. We are sticking together and sticking to the plan,” Watkins allegedly said. Another voice told her, “We’ll see you soon, Jess. Airborne.”
According to Sky News, Caldwell received a text message which said, “All members are in the tunnels under capital [sic] seal them in. Turn on gas.”
The actions of far-right groups like the Oath Keepers and the Proud Boys, whose members allegedly featured heavily in the Capitol incursion, have been optically bad for Trump’s case.

Paradoxically, indictments like these provide major evidence Trump didn’t incite the crowd.

As Carrie Sheffield pointed out at Just the News, “[Senate Democrats’] incitement case against him was dealt a severe blow this week when federal prosecutors charged three men in the Capitol attack, alleging their communication and coordination dated back to November.”
In an interview with the conservative-leaning publication, Kevin Brock, former assistant director of intelligence for the FBI, suggested the prior planning indicated that no matter what Trump said, the Capitol incursion was going to happen anyway.

During the interview Thursday, Brock said that incitement requires a speaker to desire violence and believe the crowd is capable (or have an indication the crowd is capable) of violence. Brock said neither applied to Trump’s speech.
In the article of impeachment, the quote cited as an example of incitement was “if you don’t fight like hell you’re not going to have a country anymore.” While the speech will almost certainly go down as the low-water mark of the Trump presidency, he made it clear in other parts of the address that protesting should be done peaceably.

“I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol Building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard,” Trump said.
“Anyone you want, but I think right here, we’re going to walk down to the Capitol, and we’re going to cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and women, and we’re probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them. Because you’ll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength and you have to be strong. We have come to demand that Congress do the right thing and only count the electors who have been lawfully slated, lawfully slated.”
“Every other politician in this country uses those kinds of words and that kind of language,” Brock said.
“So I think to convict him on those words would open up politicians across both parties for future examination as to whether or not their words are inciting violence across the country. Frankly, I think a lot of them are exposed in that regard.”

After having listened to the entire speech, Brock said that “I didn’t hear a single word about — or anything that would trigger a reasonable person to believe that he was inciting — violence.”
“He even used the words ‘peaceful’ and ‘respectful.'”
Brock’s theory is that Trump “was caught by surprise at what happened,” which he described as “a failure, frankly, on the intelligence that he should have been provided as president of the United States.”
“We shouldn’t be in a position where knuckleheads like Proud Boys and Oath Keepers can plan a disruptive violent event and it catches us by surprise,” he added.

And this is the eventual problem with impeaching Trump for incitement while, at the same time, pursuing thuggish members of far-right factional groups like the Oath Keepers or Proud Boys for having planned this long in advance. When the trial begins in early February, impeachment managers will have to prove the former president not only knew those far-right groups were planning violence but also incited them with his words.
If Trump had given a brief, placid speech, the riot in the Capitol would have almost certainly happened. If Trump gave the speech he gave, the riot in the Capitol would have almost certainly happened. If Trump recited the Gettysburg Address or Matthew Arnold’s “Dover Beach” or the opening monologue to “The Jerk,” the riot in the Capitol would have almost certainly happened.
Yes, Trump gave a fantastically bad speech, badly timed and full of anger directed at all the wrong people. Yet the only hard evidence we have seems to indicate it played no role in directing violent right-wing factions who came to Washington, D.C., with plans to enter the Capitol by force. If Trump directed none of this, there’s no incitement.
The Democrats can try their hardest to make it look that way, though. After all, politics plays an outsized role in the impeachment process.
To the extent law enters into it, however, there’s nothing to tie Donald Trump to incitement.

HILARIOUS Delusion
Will see in one week

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[Phil B.]

Re: Let the truth be known

HILARIOUS Delusion
Will se in one week

the word is SEE

this is your weekly English spelling lesson!

you're welcome ... maybe next week you can qualify to be a 1st grader.... but only IF YOU DO YOUR HOMEWORK.

[bsm2]

Re: Let the truth be known

They stormed the Capitol to overturn the results of an election they didn't vote in
They stormed the Capitol to overturn the results of an election they didn't vote in - CNN

[Copier Addict]

Re: Let the truth be known

name these DESPOTS...

and is it LOVE or diplomatic RESPECT ?

doubt you'll answer to these points since you always deflect and run.. just like a typical liberal when caught in the corner

You know as well as I do that trump is in love with both Kim from North Korea and Putin from Russia. And wants to be them. You as a self proclaimed "Constitutionalist" should be especially wary of trump. He shows all the signs of someone who has no problem ignoring the Constitution. I would put money on it that he would attempt to do away with presidential term limits if he ever gets power again.

[Phil B.]

Re: Let the truth be known

You know as well as I do that trump is in love with both Kim from North Korea and Putin from Russia. And wants to be them. You as a self proclaimed "Constitutionalist" should be especially wary of trump. He shows all the signs of someone who has no problem ignoring the Constitution. I would put money on it that he would attempt to do away with presidential term limits if he ever gets power again.

throwing the BULLSHIT FLAG.. Trump RESPECTS the offices that Putin and Rocketman hold in their respective cuntries.

Yes he talks to them.. because it's HIS FUCKING JOB to do so.

Never did Trump say " Tell Vlad I'll have more leeway after the election" Russia had THE strongest sanctions and penalties imposed on him from America than any other president in my lifetime.. even stricter ones than Ronnie Reagan ( Teddie Kennedy was working WITH the Russians to oust Reagan)

Trump was the ONLY president to even ATTEMPT to talk to Rocketman. Kim stopped the missile tests and was actually making concessions with Trump to form a more peaceful transition for a truce with SoKo.

Trump brought and end to ISIS and really had a strong approval rating among the CITIZENS of Iraq/Iran.

Trump brought a reasonable amount of peace with members of the middle east and Israel ( something Biden is undermining )

Trump got black prisoners release from jail/prison

Trump lowered the unemployment figures for : Young Black men... Hispanics .. women and young white men.

Trump went back to the "Peace through Strength" motto by REBUILDING the military what Barry had destroyed.

Trump had the highest Stock Market in DECADES.

Trump had the highest GDP in decades

Trump had the highest approval rating after leaving office than Obama or Shrub

what has SnifferJoe done?

He has given ChiComs the backdoor into our energy grid... China and Russia are working on a plan to explode a nuke over America to create an EMP that will destroy our Powergrid and turn us into a pre-16th century county.

He has made it so instead of being an oil/gas exporters to being reliant on Arab oil once again.

lied to his followers that are now PISSED at his flip flop on: vaccines ... helping the poor... abortion ... etc.

So don't try and tell me that SnifferJoe is doing great things.. even CHICOM is thinking they fucked up by backing him.

The ONLY ones that are happy (not really) are the D.C. elites.. and his approval ratings with them are dropping fast.

He killed 11,000 job ON HIS FIRST day and now reports are coming in that he will KILL another 1,000,000 + jobs with his GND crap. ( a 92trillion fuck up)

He has lost 20 million doses of the vaccine , and is NOT working on a vaccine to take out the mutant variation of the Covid -19

He is on his way to be removed by the 25th Amendment ( we all knew this was a push to get KneePads as POTUS.

Congress is changing laws at a drop of a hat IF they don't like said laws.

Our country is being turned into a 3rd world shithole all to fast for me and 100,000 other Americans

and this is what you want? a senile old man who can't remember what state he is in ( other than CONFUSION ) and a flatbacker that is in it for only the title of POTUS.

God help the USA.

[SalesServiceGuy]

Re: Let the truth be known

throwing the BULLSHIT FLAG.. Trump RESPECTS the offices that Putin and Rocketman hold in their respective cuntries.

Yes he talks to them.. because it's HIS FUCKING JOB to do so.

Never did Trump say " Tell Vlad I'll have more leeway after the election" Russia had THE strongest sanctions and penalties imposed on him from America than any other president in my lifetime.. even stricter ones than Ronnie Reagan ( Teddie Kennedy was working WITH the Russians to oust Reagan)

Trump was the ONLY president to even ATTEMPT to talk to Rocketman. Kim stopped the missile tests and was actually making concessions with Trump to form a more peaceful transition for a truce with SoKo.

Trump brought and end to ISIS and really had a strong approval rating among the CITIZENS of Iraq/Iran.

Trump brought a reasonable amount of peace with members of the middle east and Israel ( something Biden is undermining )

Trump got black prisoners release from jail/prison

Trump lowered the unemployment figures for : Young Black men... Hispanics .. women and young white men.

Trump went back to the "Peace through Strength" motto by REBUILDING the military what Barry had destroyed.

Trump had the highest Stock Market in DECADES.

Trump had the highest GDP in decades

Trump had the highest approval rating after leaving office than Obama or Shrub

what has SnifferJoe done?

He has given ChiComs the backdoor into our energy grid... China and Russia are working on a plan to explode a nuke over America to create an EMP that will destroy our Powergrid and turn us into a pre-16th century county.

He has made it so instead of being an oil/gas exporters to being reliant on Arab oil once again.

lied to his followers that are now PISSED at his flip flop on: vaccines ... helping the poor... abortion ... etc.

So don't try and tell me that SnifferJoe is doing great things.. even CHICOM is thinking they fucked up by backing him.

The ONLY ones that are happy (not really) are the D.C. elites.. and his approval ratings with them are dropping fast.

He killed 11,000 job ON HIS FIRST day and now reports are coming in that he will KILL another 1,000,000 + jobs with his GND crap. ( a 92trillion fuck up)

He has lost 20 million doses of the vaccine , and is NOT working on a vaccine to take out the mutant variation of the Covid -19

He is on his way to be removed by the 26th Amendment ( we all knew this was a push to get KneePads as POTUS.

Congress is changing laws at a drop of a hat IF they don't like said laws.

Our country is being turned into a 3rd world shithole all to fast for me and 100,000 other Americans

and this is what you want? a senile old man who can't remember what state he is in ( other than CONFUSION ) and a flatbacker that is in it for only the title of POTUS.

God help the USA.

...you must miss not being able to talk to all of your alternate reality friends on Parler.

[slimslob]

Re: Let the truth be known

You mean like killing Iran's top general and calling Kim jong un "Little Rocket Man"? I think Trump also told Kim that we'd wipe him off the face of the earth. Contrast that to Obama who sent billions to Iran in the dead of the night. Naw, man.

And don't forget his open microphone instant. President Obama was overheard on an open mic giving outgoing Russian President Medevev a candid political assessment of his ability to deal with relations between the U.S. and Russia, saying he would have more flexibility after the election. Bill Plante reports.
Obama's open mic slip on missile defense system - YouTube

[Phil B.]

Re: Let the truth be known

...you must miss not being able to talk to all of your alternate reality friends on Parler.

only because of the fucking socialistic BIG TECH de platforming Parler... the censorship on Twitter - Fakebook - Instagram et al

this isn't free speech..

this is totalitarianism ...

but I now you approve of such actions because you only agree with speech that aligns with your twisted view on free speech.

just like here we have the RIGHTS to free speech... and you still bitch about it..

clearly you FORGOT about one rule we have in ALL RANT and RAVES forums.. so please let me refresh your memory :


This is the place to bitch, moan, or make a statement. Anything goes!

got it now ? PLEASE REMEMBER the last 2 words there...


ANYTHING GOES...

so if you don't like what I'm saying


Get going .....because Slim was the one that created this thread.... NOT one that YOU created, I'm sure MY views on life are closer to his views than YOURS.