Let the truth be known

[Copier Addict]

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In England, February 2020 a previous visit by British police to a man who was told to ''check your thinking'' and accused of posting "transphobic" tweets was found to be unlawful by the High Court. The court determined the police force's actions were a "disproportionate interference" with his right to freedom of expression.

So given that it's clear you don't support free speech, as you cannot have free speech with exceptions.

[Tricky]

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There are always exceptions to freedom of speech.

I knew I was getting into muddy waters when I posted that, there of course has to be limits.
But here you imply that media platforms such as Parler spread hate, and hate these days just seems to be anything the MSM don't agree with.

Phil's post was not about Trump it also applies to global politics, in general, the media and techs stranglehold over free speech remember Parler?, my attitude is if you don't like free speech you should not look at it.

I love free speech. I just hate it when people use the "free speech" argument to spew hate.

[Copier Addict]

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I knew I was getting into muddy waters when I posted that, there of course has to be limits.
But here you imply that media platforms such as Parler spread hate, and hate these days just seems to be anything the MSM don't agree with.

Parler is neither good nor bad. It is just a platform.
It is the people who spread the hate.

[slimslob]

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There are always exceptions to freedom of speech.

Maybe in Canada, but the 1st Amendment to the US Constitution allows for no exceptions.

Amendment 1 - Freedom of Religion, Press, Expression. Ratified 12/15/1791.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the
free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of
the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of
grievances.

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Maybe in Canada, but the 1st Amendment to the US Constitution allows for no exceptions.

Amendment 1 - Freedom of Religion, Press, Expression. Ratified 12/15/1791.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the
free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of
the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of
grievances.

Your a very poor student of the Constitution YOUR right to free speech has resrictions therefore, may not be recognized as being absolute, and common limitations or boundaries to freedom of speech relate to libel, slander, obscenity, pornography, sedition, incitement, fighting words, classified information, copyright violation, trade secrets, food labeling,

[Tricky]

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Parler is neither good nor bad. It is just a platform.
It is the people who spread the hate.

There is an area of Hyde Park, London called speakers corner that doesn't really need any further explanation, Karl Marx used to attend. In recent years people that speak there under police supervision IE within the law have had their social media accounts deleted. Parler gave these people the opportunity to communicate on subjects that were within UK law. While the big tech like twitter just cancels everyone they don't like and labels it hate speech.

[slimslob]

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Arizona Senate to Start Major Audit of 2.1 Million 2020 Presidential Election Ballots

Arizona Senate to Start Major Audit of 2.1 Million 2020 Presidential Election Ballots

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Hilarious T man Still LOST

Closest state was Georiga
3 recounts still LOST.

[Copier Addict]

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There is an area of Hyde Park, London called speakers corner that doesn't really need any further explanation, Karl Marx used to attend. In recent years people that speak there under police supervision IE within the law have had their social media accounts deleted. Parler gave these people the opportunity to communicate on subjects that were within UK law. While the big tech like twitter just cancels everyone they don't like and labels it hate speech.

Private companies are also FREE to allow or not allow whatever they want on their platforms. Freedom goes both ways.

[Copier Addict]

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Maybe in Canada, but the 1st Amendment to the US Constitution allows for no exceptions.

Amendment 1 - Freedom of Religion, Press, Expression. Ratified 12/15/1791.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the
free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of
the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of
grievances.

You are really bad at research Slim.
As stated earlier "there are always exceptions to freedom of speech"

Categories of speech that are given lesser or no protection by the First Amendment (and therefore may be restricted) include obscenity, fraud, child pornography, speech integral to illegal conduct, speech that incites imminent lawless action, speech that violates intellectual property law, true threats, and commercial speech such as advertising. Defamation that causes harm to reputation is a tort and also an exception to free speech.

[Tricky]

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Private companies are also FREE to allow or not allow whatever they want on their platforms. Freedom goes both ways.

Yes but when they cancel or delete speech that is considered acceptable in the UK it becomes somewhat annoying.

[Phil B.]

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MadMax is stirring the shit pot again.... could this be considered insurrection?


This race-baiting bitch should be removed from Congress!

When the riots in Brooklyn Center, Minnesota break out after the decision in the Derek Chauvin trial, Maxine Waters must be arrested for inciting to riot. She recently travelled to the suburb of Minneapolis where she led protesters in violating the curfew and she told them that they need to get more confrontational if Chauvin is found innocent. She is trying to influence the jury which I believe is also illegal since she is a member of congress.
Our laws say a person is innocent until they are found guilty by a jury of their peers. But Waters is saying the only verdict the jury can make is guilty no matter what the evidence shows. She is telling the jury that if they find Chauvin innocent, they will be the cause of massive riots. They are already rioting there and by telling them to become more confrontational, she is endorsing even more violence. That is a felony.
If the feds are investigating President Trump who told his followers to march peacefully for inciting to riot then how can you not prosecute someone who tells rioters they need to be more confrontational, must be investigated and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. This country has seen much violence in the last year or so and Democrats have brushed it off as peaceful protests even though over 700 police officers have been injured and $2 billion in property damages occurred.

The extremist politician urged people to continuing protesting, violating the curfew.


This is not the first time Waters has tried to incite people to violence. Right after two conservatives were mobbed by domestic terrorists , Waters said:

[slimslob]

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Private companies are also FREE to allow or not allow whatever they want on their platforms. Freedom goes both ways.

Private companies are not the government. But what happens to a private company that denies admission to one of the liberal's protected groups.

As far as platforms, they are not free to do what ever they want. They are licensed by the government. In agreeing to those licenses they have agreed to follow set standards. Should they fail to follow those standards they can lose their license. Private companies and corporate entities are not granted any rights by the Constitution, only individual citizens. The only possible exception is the Freedom of the Press that is in the 1st Amendment. What current news media fails to recognize is that it is actually the freedom to investigate, not the freedom to lie. Democrat administrations and politicians have a history of denying journalist access.

[slimslob]

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LA County sheriff blames 'defund the police,' progressive policies for murder, violent crime wave - TheBlaze

[Phil B.]

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Private companies are not the government. But what happens to a private company that denies admission to one of the liberal's protected groups.

As far as platforms, they are not free to do what ever they want. They are licensed by the government. In agreeing to those licenses they have agreed to follow set standards. Should they fail to follow those standards they can lose their license. Private companies and corporate entities are not granted any rights by the Constitution, only individual citizens. The only possible exception is the Freedom of the Press that is in the 1st Amendment. What current news media fails to recognize is that it is actually the freedom to investigate, not the freedom to lie. Democrat administrations and politicians have a history of denying journalist access.

Yes most do...

Report: Obama often hostile to press

Journalists granted 'zero access' to cover border crisis: photog

Obama spied on, raided and prosecuted reporters to keep information from the public

D.C. Press Took Collective Action To Protest Obama White House Restrictions -- Why Not Trump? | Media Matters for America