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  • bsm2
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    #7591
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    • mojorolla
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      #7592
      Re: Let the truth be known

      Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
      That's not as bad as what BLM and Antifa did. It's not even close. What say you?
      I disagree. its not even close, January 6th was much worse. Comparing a looted Foot Locker or a burned out Wendys to violent protestor storming the seat of our government in an attempt to kill lawmakers is far far worse. Riots, looting...been happening for decades in this country, its nothing new and I just dont see it as a fair comparison. Trump called these people to DC,"come to DC on the 6th, its gonna be wild" or something similar....there is a big difference.

      As to actor's and false flag bs that these were not Trump supporters....c'mon dude. I can show you a video out of context and make up whatever narrative I want, does not make it truth. There was no "deep state" conspiracy, ten of thousands of dead people did not vote, they didnt ship million of ballots in from South America. BTW this conspiracy theory is my personal favorite as it has to do with printing millions of ballots; must have had techs on call for those machines. It wasn't the rule changes to mail in ballots, pick your excuse of choice. Telling me not to believe what I just saw and heard with my own eyes and ears does not work for me, and some would call me a sheep? To that I saw BAH BAH!!

      Trump lost because of Trump. Joe Biden won by doing as little as possible and just let Trump be Trump. And this is ultimately why those on the right cant believe that Biden won by that many votes. It boils down to as much as the right loves Trump , there were even more on the left and center who hate Trump. Not to mention how many Republicans' jumped ship over Trump. I do not personally care for Biden, physically old, ideologically old, but still an easy vote over Trump. And from the vote totals, I was not alone. Republicans used to stand for integrity, a strong military and fiscal responsibility and I can honestly say I am unsure if any of those are still true.


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      • FrohnB
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        #7593
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        Originally posted by Phil B.
        how can someone commit murder when they aren't there and didn't pay anyone there.... talk about grasping at straws ... and I've already given you proof BLM and Anti-Fa were the dressed in Trump garb...

        face it your lies have been proven wrong.

        now Sullivan Anti-Fa/blm has been nabbed with 90k$ that CNN paid him for his interview about Jan 6th.

        keep up pinhead
        Funny how these libs refuse to read/ hear any of the FACTS that are contrary to what they've been told by the MSM.
        Actually, on second thought.........it's really sad to see how easily brainwashed they can be........I almost feel bad for them. Almost.

        Sullivan admitted publicly, via social media, his intent to infiltrate the large crowd by posing as a supporter of President Trump.
        Sullivan also admitted that he traveled to Washington DC to participate in agitating the crowd toward violence.Insurgence USA. <--
        Sullivan spoke to a slew of media outlets after the breach, including CNN and ABC claiming to be "a scared witness and lucky to not be hurt" , and was even paid 35 Thousand Dollars from CNN and NBC for "the rights to his videos". BUT once his ACTUAL role in the siege was proven by the FBI and Justice Department, CNN and NBC quickly pulled the videos at the request of their directors.


        Sullivan was not alone in his left-wing agitations. Dozens of other Antifa/ BLM/ "Leftist" members (who also dressed up as Trump supporters) have been arrested and charged for the same Crimes according to the FBI and Department of Justice.
        Omertà

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        • Phil B.
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          #7594
          Re: Let the truth be known

          Originally posted by FrohnB
          Funny how these libs refuse to read/ hear any of the FACTS that are contrary to what they've been told by the MSM.
          Actually, on second thought.........it's really sad to see how easily brainwashed they can be........I almost feel bad for them. Almost.

          Sullivan admitted publicly, via social media, his intent to infiltrate the large crowd by posing as a supporter of President Trump.
          Sullivan also admitted that he traveled to Washington DC to participate in agitating the crowd toward violence.
          He also admitted he’s known in the activist community as being a member of the far-left, anarcho-communist group Antifa.
          Sullivan has posted in support of Black Lives Matter, and leads a group called Insurgence USA. <--
          Sullivan spoke to a slew of media outlets after the breach, including CNN and ABC claiming to be "a scared witness and lucky to not be hurt" , and was even paid 35 Thousand Dollars from CNN and NBC for "the rights to his videos". BUT once his ACTUAL role in the siege was proven by the FBI and Justice Department, CNN and NBC quickly pulled the videos at the request of their directors.


          Sullivan was not alone in his left-wing agitations. Dozens of other Antifa/ BLM/ "Leftist" members (who also dressed up as Trump supporters) have been arrested and charged for the same Crimes according to the FBI and Department of Justice.

          i'm not sure if it's unwillingness to read..accept facts or if they are just ignorant but their TDS is still running deep after the past 4 years.

          I know some that suffer from sheer stupidity tho.

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          • slimslob
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            #7595
            Re: Let the truth be known

            Originally posted by mojorolla
            I disagree. its not even close, January 6th was much worse. Comparing a looted Foot Locker or a burned out Wendys to violent protestor storming the seat of our government in an attempt to kill lawmakers is far far worse. Riots, looting...been happening for decades in this country, its nothing new and I just dont see it as a fair comparison. Trump called these people to DC,"come to DC on the 6th, its gonna be wild" or something similar....there is a big difference.
            President Trump called for a peaceful protest on the steps. Anyone who initiated any action other than that was not a Trump supporter. We are not talking about looted Foot Lockers or Burned out Wendy's. We are talking about places like Portland Oregon where radical leftist violently stormed and burned a police building. BLM protesters set Portland police station on fire

            As to actor's and false flag bs that these were not Trump supporters....c'mon dude. I can show you a video out of context and make up whatever narrative I want, does not make it truth. There was no "deep state" conspiracy, ten of thousands of dead people did not vote, they didnt ship million of ballots in from South America. BTW this conspiracy theory is my personal favorite as it has to do with printing millions of ballots; must have had techs on call for those machines. It wasn't the rule changes to mail in ballots, pick your excuse of choice. Telling me not to believe what I just saw and heard with my own eyes and ears does not work for me, and some would call me a sheep? To that I saw BAH BAH!!
            Millions of excess ballots are printed before every election. For those states that actually use paper ballots they have to be ready in case a voter fills in the wrong bubble and wants are fresh ballot. The voter brings the spoiled ballot to a pole worker and is given another ballot and the spoiled ballot is dropped into a slot in a locked spoiled ballot box. With the changes in the vote by mail rules they also had to have mail in ballots ready for everyone. In those states using electronic voting machines, paper ballots had to be printed. You saw and heard exactly what the fake news wanted you to see and hear.

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            • Phil B.
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              #7596
              Re: Let the truth be known

              Originally posted by slimslob
              President Trump called for a peaceful protest on the steps. Anyone who initiated any action other than that was not a Trump supporter. We are not talking about looted Foot Lockers or Burned out Wendy's. We are talking about places like Portland Oregon where radical leftist violently stormed and burned a police building. BLM protesters set Portland police station on fire



              Millions of excess ballots are printed before every election. For those states that actually use paper ballots they have to be ready in case a voter fills in the wrong bubble and wants are fresh ballot. The voter brings the spoiled ballot to a pole worker and is given another ballot and the spoiled ballot is dropped into a slot in a locked spoiled ballot box. With the changes in the vote by mail rules they also had to have mail in ballots ready for everyone. In those states using electronic voting machines, paper ballots had to be printed. You saw and heard exactly what the fake news wanted you to see and hear.
              like the election audit process info about Jan 6th is coming our in drips:

              Who is John Sullivan? Left-wing Activist Charged in Capitol Riot

              Who is John Sullivan, accused provocateur charged in Capitol riot?





              Sullivan, who describes himself as a video journalist 'documenting the front lines of protest happening around the world', founded Insurgence USA during the George Floyd riots last year


              A leftist activist who is facing criminal charges in Utah stemming from a “defund the police” rally was arrested and charged for his role in the deadly insurrection at the U.S. Capitol, the Justice Department said Thursday night.

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              • Phil B.
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                Re: Let the truth be known

                This crap has got to stop, it all started when SCOTUS ruled that you could deface the US FLAG stating it was protected under the 1st Amendment!


                Military Family Takes Up Fight Against HOA to Fly American Flag in Yard


                Twenty-three miles away from where the family lives in Telford, Pennsylvania, a group of Americans made a stand for what they believe in.
                And in the same spirit as those soldiers who camped on Valley Forge, the family is fighting for the right to fly the American flag freely.
                Darlene and Rocco Lacertosa have two sons in the military.
                To honor their children, they put up a flag pole to fly the flag for which their sons are willing to give their last full measure of devotion.
                But the Galman Group, which manages the complex where the family lives, says there are rules that must take precedence, according to Fox News.

                The homeowners association sent the family a letter saying that the flagpole is on community ground, and therefore cannot be allowed to exist.
                “Very upsetting since we have two sons in the military and this flag pole was Rocco’s dad’s which he proudly flew every day until the day he died,” Darlene Lacertosa wrote in a social media post. “Very upsetting.”
                Battles over flying Old Glory have taken place before, including one instance in which a resident painted his house to resemble a flag.
                The Pennsylvania case has not quite gotten that far yet.
                The family is pushing back against the association’s claim that the rules for flying flags on common ground are quite clear.

                The Galman Group said the rules are the rules. “The standards specifically permit the American flag to be flown when mounted to a house but do not permit in-ground flags in the community,” a spokesman for the Galman Group said, according to Patch.com.
                “The Galman Group and the Board at Indian Valley Meadows welcome its residents to display the American flag, and other appropriate flags, in accordance with the guidelines established for the benefit of the community,” the statement said.
                The group told the patriotic family that it trusts “that as a homeowner … you recognize that keeping the entire community looking good helps to promote strong values.”

                I am glad I don't live in an area that has a HOA telling us what we can/can't do. I fly my flag proudly 24/7. Yes there are LIGHTS that shine on MY flag at night.

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                • FrohnB
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                  #7598
                  Re: Let the truth be known

                  Originally posted by slimslob
                  President Trump called for a peaceful protest on the steps. Anyone who initiated any action other than that was not a Trump supporter. We are not talking about looted Foot Lockers or Burned out Wendy's. We are talking about places like Portland Oregon where radical leftist violently stormed and burned a police building. BLM protesters set Portland police station on fire .
                  Kind of odd how the same people that call January 6th an "insurrection", or "right-wing extremism", or "domestic terrorism", or "violent Trump Supporters", are the same ones who said "Summer of Love", and "It's their right", and "Peaceful Protests", and "block party" when referring to Portland, Seattle and other Cities where FEDERAL BUILDINGS and Police Stations were being Burned (some with people inside), vandalized, and in a couple of cases Occupied by demonstrators with the intent of "taking over".

                  Insurrection;
                  - an act or instance of rising in revolt, rebellion, or resistanceagainst civil authority or an established government. - Dictionary.com
                  - an act or instance of revolting against civil authority or an established government. - merriam-webster.com

                  With that definition........I'd say that those "Peaceful **cough** rebellion **cough** Protests" were actually acts of Insurrection, and we should label those people as terrorists, and we should apply the same consequences, and shame, and disgust as the Jan. 6th Folks. Right?

                  By the way.......how come the Impeachment Prosecutors never gave us a definitive timeline of events on Jan. 6th? LOL!
                  They were asked to Prove (with a definitive timeline) that Trump started the "InSuRrEcTiOn", and they couldn't/ wouldn't provide any factual evidence.
                  That is why Trump was ultimately acquitted. Again. For the Second Time.
                  Omertà

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                  • Phil B.
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                    #7599
                    Re: Let the truth be known

                    Originally posted by FrohnB
                    Kind of odd how the same people that call January 6th an "insurrection", or "right-wing extremism", or "domestic terrorism", or "violent Trump Supporters", are the same ones who said "Summer of Love", and "It's their right", and "Peaceful Protests", and "block party" when referring to Portland, Seattle and other Cities where FEDERAL BUILDINGS and Police Stations were being Burned (some with people inside), vandalized, and in a couple of cases Occupied by demonstrators with the intent of "taking over".

                    Insurrection;
                    - an act or instance of rising in revolt, rebellion, or resistanceagainst civil authority or an established government. - Dictionary.com
                    - an act or instance of revolting against civil authority or an established government. - merriam-webster.com

                    With that definition........I'd say that those "Peaceful **cough** rebellion **cough** Protests" were actually acts of Insurrection, and we should label those people as terrorists, and we should apply the same consequences, and shame, and disgust as the Jan. 6th Folks. Right?

                    By the way.......how come the Impeachment Prosecutors never gave us a definitive timeline of events on Jan. 6th? LOL!
                    They were asked to Prove (with a definitive timeline) that Trump started the "InSuRrEcTiOn", and they couldn't/ wouldn't provide any factual evidence.
                    That is why Trump was ultimately acquitted. Again. For the Second Time.

                    BOTH 'impeachments' were lies and hoaxes .... they held secret ' hearings ' lead by Pencilneck and HE decided who could/couldn't attend them.

                    NanNan didn't follow the rules that had been in place for hundreds of years and made up her own set of rules specially to burn Trump BOTH TIMES.

                    They weren't fair 'impeachments' but were rather a one sided affair to prove how much HATE they had for #45... remember on inauguration day 2017 Maxine 'Mad Max' Waters called for #Impeach45 even before he stepped foot in the White House... the same thing for the 'pussy hat wearing' radicals... all because he vowed to DRAIN THE SWAMP! and they all knew IF he lived up to that promise all the scum on both sides of the isle would be out of their cushy lifelong jobs.

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                    • mojorolla
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                      #7600
                      Re: Let the truth be known

                      Originally posted by slimslob
                      President Trump called for a peaceful protest on the steps. Anyone who initiated any action other than that was not a Trump supporter. We are not talking about looted Foot Lockers or Burned out Wendy's. We are talking about places like Portland Oregon where radical leftist violently stormed and burned a police building. BLM protesters set Portland police station on fire



                      Millions of excess ballots are printed before every election. For those states that actually use paper ballots they have to be ready in case a voter fills in the wrong bubble and wants are fresh ballot. The voter brings the spoiled ballot to a pole worker and is given another ballot and the spoiled ballot is dropped into a slot in a locked spoiled ballot box. With the changes in the vote by mail rules they also had to have mail in ballots ready for everyone. In those states using electronic voting machines, paper ballots had to be printed. You saw and heard exactly what the fake news wanted you to see and hear.
                      So we have 2 protest were MOST were there for peaceful protest but SOME were there for violence. It would appear we can at least agree on that. However, the severity of an insurrection vs a good old fashioned riot is were we differ. If you want to use Seattle as an example, fine by me. Still does not have any bearing upon what happened on Jan. 6th. And while Trump "peaceful protest" was happening, while cops where being beat to death with American flags (I cant even believe I am writing this last sentence) Trump sat and watched it live on TV. Only hours later did he address his "special people"......slim chance of me buying that one Bob.

                      As to the ballots I am referring to these nutty van pulls up and unload thousands of ballots type theories. Ballot stored under a table and added the pile....that sort of craziness. Wouldn't a hand recount, 2 or 3 in some states, detect this fraud ? The elected Republican officials would be screaming blood murder if any of these things are true. BUt that is not what happened at all , they had to defend themselves from their own party ! And please don't give me the RINO argument. All of a sudden they are all RINOs but id bet my left arm that most voted for these same RINO the past 2 decades. It will be interesting to see how the GOP fairs in 2022 while they continued to eat their young.


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                      • slimslob
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                        #7601
                        Re: Let the truth be known

                        Originally posted by mojorolla
                        So we have 2 protest were MOST were there for peaceful protest but SOME were there for violence. It would appear we can at least agree on that. However, the severity of an insurrection vs a good old fashioned riot is were we differ. If you want to use Seattle as an example, fine by me. Still does not have any bearing upon what happened on Jan. 6th. And while Trump "peaceful protest" was happening, while cops where being beat to death with American flags (I cant even believe I am writing this last sentence) Trump sat and watched it live on TV. Only hours later did he address his "special people"......slim chance of me buying that one Bob.

                        As to the ballots I am referring to these nutty van pulls up and unload thousands of ballots type theories. Ballot stored under a table and added the pile....that sort of craziness. Wouldn't a hand recount, 2 or 3 in some states, detect this fraud ? The elected Republican officials would be screaming blood murder if any of these things are true. BUt that is not what happened at all , they had to defend themselves from their own party ! And please don't give me the RINO argument. All of a sudden they are all RINOs but id bet my left arm that most voted for these same RINO the past 2 decades. It will be interesting to see how the GOP fairs in 2022 while they continued to eat their young.


                        At the current rate of public opinion, by November of 2022, the Republicans will pick enough seats to take control of both the House and Senate. That sets up the possibility of both QPQ Joe being impeached for his Ukrainian Quid Pro Quo and the Ho for her ethics violations.

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                        • BillyCarpenter
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                          Originally posted by mojorolla
                          It will be interesting to see how the GOP fairs in 2022 while they continued to eat their young.



                          I read you as a diehard liberal that has yet to put all of your cards on the table. If I asked you to tell us the last republican that you voted for, I suspect you'd have a difficult time answering. I could be wrong.

                          In any event, I wouldn't worry to much about the republican party. We'll be fine. We're always fine. You know why that is? Because democrats are bat-shit crazy and will fuck it up like they always do. Just ask Hillary.



                          PS - By the way...what is a "good old fashioned riot"? That's some liberal bullshit if I've ever heard it.
                          Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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                          • Phil B.
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                            #7603
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                            Originally posted by slimslob
                            At the current rate of public opinion, by November of 2022, the Republicans will pick enough seats to take control of both the House and Senate. That sets up the possibility of both QPQ Joe being impeached for his Ukrainian Quid Pro Quo and the Ho for her ethics violations.
                            oh glory days when we can get these swamp creatures out of office and flipping burgers or mixing drinks.

                            hell since I don't watch CNN/MSNBCpms they can go spew their shit there for all I care. just like SNL, MSM viewer numbers are falling faster than Cameltoe to her knees.

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                            • Phil B.
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                              #7604
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                              Talk about an overinflated ego... he is praising himself for finding a grease spot on the Mag roller on a canon dev unit! How many here would have checked the dev unit for a buildup of toner on the mag roller and drum unit?


                              "This is a new copier and ive no idea how the grease/finger prints got on that mag roller and why it took 2 years to show up on copy. All i know is that i fixed it. Copytech,Mike is still the best! I dont need no reputation score! Im still the best!"

                              he spells about as well as BSM2 does.. no punctuation

                              he is cat shit and needs to be covered up!

                              just checked the Better Business Bureau on him.... no accreditation for Advanced Copier Solutions!

                              doesn't sound like he is a good as he touts himself to be.

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                              • Phil B.
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                                This is the same violation that Mad ax is being investigated on... seems to be rather common place for democrats it's either their kids or their lovers/husbands/wives.


                                Ethics Violation? NM Democratic Gov Slammed for Spending Huge Campaign Funds to Pay Daughter

                                Albuquerque Journalcampaign finance



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                                It seems like every week New Mexicans wake up to hear something else that @GovMLGThe Associated Presscampaign expenditures

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