Let the truth be known

[BillyCarpenter]

Re: Let the truth be known

Let's settle this debate by you giving an honest answer to this question. We need for you to start showing that you can he honest and stop running from questions.


Which cost more in personal property damage and lives lost?


a.) Jan 6th


or


b.) Black Lives Matter Insurrection

[Copier Addict]

Re: Let the truth be known

Let's settle this debate by you giving an honest answer to this question. We need for you to start showing that you can he honest and stop running from questions.


Which cost more in personal property damage and lives lost?


a.) Jan 6th


or


b.) Black Lives Matter Insurrection

There was no debate dude. You invented it so you wouldn't have to acknowledge the Jan 6th insurrection. Oooops, did I crack your false comparison? Sorry

[bsm2]

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The BLM insurrection Dam when was this?
Dam I missed it.

Because it NEVER Happen

[bsm2]

Re: Let the truth be known

Let's settle this debate by you giving an honest answer to this question. We need for you to start showing that you can he honest and stop running from questions.


Which cost more in personal property damage and lives lost?


a.) Jan 6th


or


b.) Black Lives Matter Insurrection

A Jan 6 and all the F ing TRUMP supporters

stands for Yep

That was Easy

[bsm2]

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Wow two insurrections under the last failed President.

Man you must be so Happy the American people voted that loser out of Office.

[BillyCarpenter]

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There was no debate dude. You invented it so you wouldn't have to acknowledge the Jan 6th insurrection. Oooops, did I crack your false comparison? Sorry

You can pretend (LIE) that I haven't answered the Jan 6 question in the past but I have. Many times. Just because you keep asking me over and over again doesn't change the fact that I've already answered it.


But I'll repeat myself. Anyone that was involved in the Jan 6 attack on the Capital building should go to jail if they caused damage to property or harm to another person.


Unlike you, I'm not a yellow-belly coward. I answer. I face the music.

Can you? I doubt it

In comparison to the Black Lives Matter Insurrection, Jan 6 was small in terms of life lost and property damage. That's a fact.

If you can't answer or debate fairly and honestly, you're of little use.

[Copier Addict]

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You can pretend (LIE) that I haven't answered the Jan 6 question in the past but I have. Many times. Just because you keep asking me over and over again doesn't change the fact that I've already answered it.


But I'll repeat myself. Anyone that was involved in the Jan 6 attack on the Capital building should go to jail if they caused damage to property or harm to another person.


Unlike you, I'm not a yellow-belly coward. I answer. I face the music.

Can you? I doubt it

In comparison to the Black Lives Matter Insurrection, Jan 6 was small in terms of life lost and property damage. That's a fact.

If you can't answer or debate fairly and honestly, you're of little use.

If I can't ask questions of you that you claim to have answered, why do you think you are entitled to continually ask me questions I have previously answered?
Anyone involved in damages and violence during the BLM protests is a criminal and should be treated as such.

[BillyCarpenter]

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If I can't ask questions of you that you claim to have answered, why do you think you are entitled to continually ask me questions I have previously answered?
Anyone involved in damages and violence during the BLM protests is a criminal and should be treated as such.

This is exactly what I'm talking about. I didn't ask you that. And you know it.

I CLEARLY asked you which was worse in terms or property damage and loss of life. I don't understand why you refuse to answer and then offer up some ridiculous reason why you won't answer.

[Copier Addict]

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This is exactly what I'm talking about. I didn't ask you that. And you know it.

I CLEARLY asked you which was worse in terms or property damage and loss of life. I don't understand why you refuse to answer and then offer up some ridiculous reason why you won't answer.

It's clearly a loaded question with several answers. You are trying to compare multiple protests, BLM, to one single attack. It's a dishonest comparison so too bad for you.
If you want to be honest and select one BLM protest to the Jan 6th insurrection I'll be here.

[BillyCarpenter]

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You are trying to compare multiple protests, BLM, to one single attack. .

Exactly. The Black Lives Matter Insurrection played out over and over again and from one side of the USA to the other. Moreover, the BLM Insurrection was supported by many in the democrat party including Kamala Harris and the mayor of NYC, to name a couple.

In terms of damage to property and loss of life, well, it made the Capital attack look like a bar fight.


PS - Your refusal to admit what I just said makes you an enemy to honest debate and the reason we argue all the time.

[slimslob]

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If I can't ask questions of you that you claim to have answered, why do you think you are entitled to continually ask me questions I have previously answered?
Anyone involved in damages and violence during the BLM protests is a criminal and should be treated as such.

So you are admitting that what BLM has done is worse than anything that happened January 6th.

[slimslob]

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You are trying to compare multiple protests, BLM, to one single attack.

Any one single BLM attack on any community is all that we need to compare to. You lose, AGAIN.

[Copier Addict]

Re: Let the truth be known

Exactly. The Black Lives Matter Insurrection played out over and over again and from one side of the USA to the other. Moreover, the BLM Insurrection was supported by many in the democrat party including Kamala Harris and the mayor of NYC, to name a couple.

In terms of damage to property and loss of life, well, it made the Capital attack look like a bar fight.


PS - Your refusal to admit what I just said makes you an enemy to honest debate and the reason we argue all the time.

Is that your "Gotcha". That their were multiple protests? I have bad news for you. Everyone already knows there were multiple protests. It ain't new

The real insurrection was and still is supported by almost the entire Republican party. In case you want to deflect again, that's the party you support.

[SalesServiceGuy]

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Any one single BLM attack on any community is all that we need to compare to. You lose, AGAIN.

False equivalency between Black Lives Matter and Capitol siege: Experts, advocates

Comparisons are "absurd," they said.


https://abcnews.go.com/US/false-equivalency-black-lives-matter-capitol-siege-experts/story?id=75251279


Fiery exchanges took place when House lawmakers convened Wednesday to impeach President Donald Trump for a historic second time, just one week after a mob of his supporters attacked the Capitol grounds. As Democrats railed against the insurrectionists, some Republicans repeatedly drew comparisons between last summer's Black Lives Matter protests and the Capitol siege of Jan. 6.

Comparisons between Black Lives Matter and what happened on Capitol Hill are false equivalencies, said several experts and advocates who spoke with ABC News.

'They lit actual flames!'

During Wednesday's hearing, several Congress members made impassioned cases for and against impeaching President Trump. During these speeches, some lawmakers denounced what they called the white supremacy among the Capitol rioters, while others accused Democrats of hypocrisy by supporting Black Lives Matter protests but condemning Trump supporters.

"If we fail to remove a White supremacist president who incited a white supremacist insurrection, it's communities like Missouri's first district that suffer the most," said Rep. Cori Bush of Missouri during her speech in support of impeachment. "The 117th Congress must understand that we have a mandate to legislate in defense of Black lives, the first step in that process is to root out white supremacy starting with impeaching the White supremacist in chief."

Rep. Bush made history as the first Black Congresswoman to be elected in the state. Missouri’s first district has a majority Black population and usually leans blue, according to an election website.

In her speech during the hearing, Rep. Maxine Waters, D-Calif., condemned the president for "radicalizing his supporters" and "inciting them to willingly join with White supremacists, Neo-Nazis and para-military extremists in a siege of the United States Capitol building."

In a video statement released following the vote, the president condemned last week's violence, but did not take responsibility for his role in the events. In the past, the president has denied accusations of racism. During the final presidential debate on Oct. 22, when moderator Kristen Welker asked the president about racial strife and hate in America, he answered by saying he is the "least racist person in this room."

Instead of rebuking the president for any role in inciting the riot, some Republicans drew comparisons between the Capitol siege and the Black Lives Matter protests that swept across the nation last year following the deaths of George Floyd, Breonna Taylor and several victims of police brutality.

Republican Rep. Matt Gaetz of Florida defended Trump, saying "some have cited the metaphor that the president lit the flames... Well, they lit actual flames!" accusing Democrats of enabling civil unrest that ensued in some cities during the BLM protests.

The unrest in some cities after some Black Lives Matter protests included vandalism and looting; however, many of these events were rooted in confrontations with police after peaceful protesters left. The vast majority of demonstrations were peaceful and leading BLM activists repeatedly distanced themselves from agent provocateurs and instigators.

BLM and the failed Capitol insurrection cannot be compared, according to Cynthia Miller-Idriss, professor of education and sociology at American University and author of "Hate in the Homeland: The New Global Far Right."

"I don't see a parallel between the two," said Miller-Idriss. "I think making a connection that there was actually incitement of violence or that there's any equivalence in the violence itself, is just absurd."

“What happened at the Capitol, you can't call that a protest anymore,” said Miller-Idriss. “That was a riot, it was sedition, it was an insurrection, a siege...it was a domestic terrorist attack.”

Stark differences have been pointed out between the protests for racial justice and the riot stoked by unfounded claims of a stolen presidential election.

2 sets of rules?

The majority white "Stop the Steal" mob that stormed the nation's Capitol building was a mix of several right-wing extremist groups, according to Larry Rosenthal, chair and lead researcher of the Berkeley Center for Right-Wing Studies.
Some were members of far-right armed militias. Others were right-wing populists, whom he described as "rally-goers" who are "fanatical about Donald Trump and his presidency."

Rosenthal also described two subsets within the extremist groups. One, is comprised of anti-government militias, whom he referred to as "people who don't recognize the legitimacy" of government on both state and local levels and often deem themselves "sovereign citizens." The other includes white nationalists, those he said are "electrified and mobilize[d] going on the streets to stand up to Black Lives Matter and the fantasy of Antifa".

"Donald Trump asserts his role as the leader of the right-wing militias," said Rosenthal. "Those people who call themselves 'patriots,' they have lived with the idea of a spark that would lead to the civil war ... it's been in their largely fantasy world for four decades. And suddenly, there is this summons from the president of the United States."

There was a "stark difference" in the makeup of the Black Lives Matter protests and the Capitol riots, according to professor Mark Anthony Neal, chair of the Department of African and African American Studies at Duke University.
Neal described the Black Lives Matter protests last year as "a multi-racial social justice movement, much like the civil rights movement in the 1960s."

"Many people of color, Black folks, are killed doing mundane things … just literally sleeping in their home, walking down the block," Neal told ABC News. "What Black Lives Matter was trying to bring to the forefront was the ways in which Black and people of color are always over-policed."

Non-violent protesters during the summer faced brute force from federal officers, but rioters were met with minimal federal response.

"[Rioters] acted with an extraordinary sense of impunity," said Rosenthal. "Like nothing was going to happen to them."
Federal authorities launched an active investigation into the attack on the Capitol and there are over 275 open investigations, Acting U.S. Attorney Michael Sherwin told reporters on a conference call Friday. As of 8 a.m. Friday morning, the Department of Justice opened 98 criminal cases -- a majority of which are federal felony cases, Sherwin said.

[BillyCarpenter]

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Is that your "Gotcha". That their were multiple protests? I have bad news for you. Everyone already knows there were multiple protests. It ain't new

The real insurrection was and still is supported by almost the entire Republican party. In case you want to deflect again, that's the party you support.

Now you've resorted to flat out lies. Prove your statement that "almost the entire Republican party" supported Jan. 6.

You really are worthless when it comes to honesty.