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  • JLSam
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    #3136
    Re: Let the truth be known

    Originally posted by Phil B.
    You would think that having diabetes.. (they say is an immune problem) that I WOULD be more prone to flu.. but at 63 I feel I am in better shape than some 40-50 yr old blobs.

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    I'm 30, my body feels like I'm 50, and I'm ready to retire brother. Might stop by the Social Security Administration and say "I'm done. Give me my money please. I'm done with working! [emoji23]"

    Eh... Who am I kidding, I'll never get my Social Security. [emoji23] By the time I retire that money is going to be looong gone.

    I'm ready to retire though.

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    • bsm2
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      #3137
      Re: Let the truth be known

      From pandering to Putin to abusing allies and ignoring his own advisers, Trump's phone calls alarm US officials

      In hundreds of highly classified phone calls with foreign heads of state, President Donald Trump was so consistently unprepared for discussion of serious issues, so often outplayed in his conversations with powerful leaders like Russian President Vladimir Putin and Turkish President Recep Erdogan, and so abusive to leaders of America's principal allies, that the calls helped convince some senior US officials -- including his former secretaries of state and defense, two national security advisers and his longest-serving chief of staff -- that the President himself posed a danger to the national security of the United States, according to White House and intelligence officials intimately familiar with the contents of the conversations.


      The calls caused former top Trump deputies -- including national security advisers H.R. McMaster and John Bolton, Defense Secretary James Mattis, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, and White House chief of staff John Kelly, as well as intelligence officials -- to conclude that the President was often "delusional," as two sources put it, in his dealings with foreign leaders. The sources said there was little evidence that the President became more skillful or competent in his telephone conversations with most heads of state over time. Rather, he continued to believe that he could either charm, jawbone or bully almost any foreign leader into capitulating to his will, and often pursued goals more attuned to his own agenda than what many of his senior advisers considered the national interest.


      These officials' concerns about the calls, and particularly Trump's deference to Putin, take on new resonance with reports the President may have learned in March that Russia had offered the Taliban bounties to kill US troops in Afghanistan -- and yet took no action. CNN's sources said there were calls between Putin and Trump about Trump's desire to end the American military presence in Afghanistan but they mentioned no discussion of the supposed Taliban bounties.

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      • Copier Addict
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        #3138
        Re: Let the truth be known

        Originally posted by JLSam
        Hanlon's razor brother. "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence".

        I think it's more likely that Ratcliffe is incompetent, than to think Trump is some guy with the horns and tail with a trident fork eager to kill American soldiers.



        I feel you man. I'm not sure how I feel about the vax stance. I choose to trust in our government when it comes to medical science. But, as long you don't hurt other people, you should be free to do whatever you want.
        I like Japan man. They gave us Dragon Ball Z man!

        But the fact you haven't gotten sick in a decade is pretty incredible. You must have quite the immune system. I suffer from hay fever once a year during spring season routinely man. I take an antihistamine daily during spring. :\ God I hate spring.

        (I said trust. But this doesn't mean I'm not skeptical. But I'm not a medical doctor, and I have limited understanding of the science behind them. Not ashamed to admit my limitations.)
        Hey, i personally think trump is an absolute douche bag, but I said nothing about him wanting to kill US soldiers. However, I believe he is the incompetent one and has surrounded himself with a bunch of yes men/women and they lie for him because he fires people who won't

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        • JLSam
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          #3139
          Re: Let the truth be known

          Originally posted by bsm2
          From pandering to Putin to abusing allies and ignoring his own advisers, Trump's phone calls alarm US officials
          From pandering to Putin to abusing allies and ignoring his own advisers, Trump's phone calls alarm US officials - CNNPolitics

          Sigh... Sensationalism again.

          Pandering, that's opinion, and speculation.

          LET'S READ THE FIRST AND SECOND PARAGRAPH OF THIS ARTICLE TOGETHER.

          "In hundreds of highly classified phone calls with foreign heads of state, President Donald Trump was so consistently unprepared for discussion of serious issues"
          Hundreds? Where can I see these classified phone calls? Is there a transcript? Didn't find one. Citation needed.

          "so often outplayed in his conversations with powerful leaders like Russian President Vladimir Putin and Turkish President Recep Erdogan"
          Holy crap, this is opinion. That is entirely subjective. Why is this in a "News" article, and not Op-Ed?

          " and so abusive to leaders of America's principal allies"
          Again, subjective AF. This is opinion, why is this not an OP-ED?

          "the President himself posed a danger to the national security of the United States"
          Opinion again.

          "according to White House and intelligence officials intimately familiar with the contents of the conversations."
          Who? Citation needed. Letters, transcripts, recordings, ANYTHING.

          "The calls caused former top Trump deputies"
          Calls? What calls? To who? When? What was the context? See, it should say "On Nov 4th, at 11:06 AM, the following transcript shows the call with Putin and you can clearly see that Trump agreed to take it up the butt (Paragraph 3, line 5)." That simple.

          " to conclude that the President was often "delusional," as two sources put it, in his dealings with foreign leaders"
          Delusional, that's opinion. This is supposed to be "news", not OP-ED. Two sources, WHO? What sources. I need NAMES. Foreign leaders? Who?


          I haven't even started, and the amount of lies and fallacies on the FIRST and SECOND paragraph are insane. LINE BY LINE.

          Do you see the problem brother? We need to learn how to read, and see the bullshit behind lines. Why post this when you can easily discredit everything from the first paragraph and second paragraph. Holy God my blood pressure levels went up. Holy God, this is the problem. Don't you see? Now, if this was an Op-Ed, THAT WOULD BE DIFFERENT. Because, they are telling the truth then, because it would be under opinion.

          I'm so tired of CNN man. It makes us other milktoast liberals look... gullible.
          I recommend reading up on fallacies, don't let people lie to you anymore brother.

          Take care.

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          • JLSam
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            #3140
            Re: Let the truth be known

            Originally posted by copier addict
            Hey, i personally think trump is an absolute douche bag
            Nuff' Said.

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            • bsm2
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              • Copier Addict
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                #3142
                Re: Let the truth be known

                Originally posted by JLSam
                Nuff' Said.
                Very eloquent. Lol. But you may want to expand on that.

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                • slimslob
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                  #3143
                  Re: Let the truth be known

                  CPD to put 1,200 extra officers on street starting Thursday - Chicago Sun-Times

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                  • Tricky
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                    #3144
                    Re: Let the truth be known

                    Originally posted by Phil B.
                    Hey Skynet have you heard this over there?

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                    Victims Stabbed to Death After Black Lives Matter Rally in Britain Were ‘Proud’ LGBT Activists
                    No I hadn't when two 'identities' that they love to promote clash like this the media over here generally leaves it alone.

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                    • bsm2
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                      #3145
                      Re: Let the truth be known

                      Trump Got Written Briefing In Feb. About Possible Russian Bounties


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                      • FrohnB
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                        #3146
                        Re: Let the truth be known

                        Originally posted by bsm2
                        Trump Got Written Briefing In Feb. About Possible Russian Bounties
                        The investigation into the suspected Russian covert operation to incentivize such killings has focused in part on an April 2019 car bombing that killed three Marines as one such potential attack, according to multiple officials familiar with the matter.

                        Moreover, a description of the intelligence assessment that the Russian unit had carried out the bounties plot was also seen as serious and solid enough to disseminate more broadly across the intelligence community in a May 4, 2020 articlein the C.I.A.’s World Intelligence Review, a classified compendium commonly referred to as The Wire, two officials said.



                        So, it took them over a year to finally "disseminate" the CLASSIFIED material "across the intelligence community". Why wouldn't they have spread that information sooner? Unless.....they didn't find it credible at the time.
                        “There was not a consensus among the intelligence community,” Ms. McEnany said. “And, in fact, there were dissenting opinions within the intelligence community, and it would not be elevated to the president until it was verified.”

                        I can imagine there are hundreds, if not thousands, of such threats/ rumors/ bounties/ etc., that the intelligence community has to sift through daily/ weekly, and sometimes things like this can be "overlooked" or brushed off as "non-verifiable".
                        And if we agree that it's "Classified and Top Secret", Why the fuck is it being leaked to the media? Whoever the leaks are, and the complicit media sources that publish the information, are the single biggest threat to our national security.

                        "Late on Monday, John Ratcliffe, the recently confirmed director of national intelligence, issued a statement warning that leaks about the matter were a crime." - (It's about time! The leaking of sensitive intelligence should be a punishable offense.........oh wait......IT IS! They need to start charging the media and their "confidential/ anonymous/ unnamed sources" with Crimes under the Espionage act!).
                        "The leaks are still criminal acts subject to stiff penalties under the Espionage Act (including death if the leak resulted in the death of a covert agent)."


                        NYT - Trump Got Written Briefing in February on Possible Russian Bounties, Officials Say -
                        Omertà

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                        • bsm2
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                          #3147
                          Re: Let the truth be known

                          Originally posted by FrohnB
                          The investigation into the suspected Russian covert operation to incentivize such killings has focused in part on an April 2019 car bombing that killed three Marines as one such potential attack, according to multiple officials familiar with the matter.

                          Moreover, a description of the intelligence assessment that the Russian unit had carried out the bounties plot was also seen as serious and solid enough to disseminate more broadly across the intelligence community in a May 4, 2020 articlein the C.I.A.’s World Intelligence Review, a classified compendium commonly referred to as The Wire, two officials said.



                          So, it took them over a year to finally "disseminate" the CLASSIFIED material "across the intelligence community". Why wouldn't they have spread that information sooner? Unless.....they didn't find it credible at the time.
                          “There was not a consensus among the intelligence community,” Ms. McEnany said. “And, in fact, there were dissenting opinions within the intelligence community, and it would not be elevated to the president until it was verified.”

                          I can imagine there are hundreds, if not thousands, of such threats/ rumors/ bounties/ etc., that the intelligence community has to sift through daily/ weekly, and sometimes things like this can be "overlooked" or brushed off as "non-verifiable".
                          And if we agree that it's "Classified and Top Secret", Why the fuck is it being leaked to the media? Whoever the leaks are, and the complicit media sources that publish the information, are the single biggest threat to our national security.

                          "Late on Monday, John Ratcliffe, the recently confirmed director of national intelligence, issued a statement warning that leaks about the matter were a crime." - (It's about time! The leaking of sensitive intelligence should be a punishable offense.........oh wait......IT IS! They need to start charging the media and their "confidential/ anonymous/ unnamed sources" with Crimes under the Espionage act!).
                          "The leaks are still criminal acts subject to stiff penalties under the Espionage Act (including death if the leak resulted in the death of a covert agent)."


                          NYT - Trump Got Written Briefing in February on Possible Russian Bounties, Officials Say -
                          So your problem is the leak or that Americans soldiers were targeted by Russia and Trump knew about and did and is still doing Nothing.

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                          • Phil B.
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                            #3148
                            Re: Let the truth be known

                            Federal Appeals Court Makes Significant Voting Restrictions Ruling

                            DemocratRepublicansApril 7 presidential primary and state Supreme Court election. Those cases are ongoing and rulings could affect the rules for the upcoming Aug. 11 primary and Nov. 3 presidential election.

                            #TRUMPPENCE2020

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                            • Phil B.
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                              #3149
                              Re: Let the truth be known

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                              • NeoMatrix
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                                #3150
                                Re: Let the truth be known

                                Originally posted by JLSam
                                I'm 30, my body feels like I'm 50, and I'm ready to retire brother. Might stop by the Social Security Administration and say "I'm done. Give me my money please. I'm done with working! [emoji23]"

                                Eh... Who am I kidding, I'll never get my Social Security. [emoji23] By the time I retire that money is going to be looong gone.

                                I'm ready to retire though.

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                                You're way to young to feel fifty. Without knowing your diet it sounds like you may have body fluid retention ,caused from a few different things.

                                If your body is storing heavywater H4O you may need to drink alkaline water to hydrade your body, which will give you back your youthful get up and go. You can buy commercial microcluster/alkaline water machine off the internet. Or you can simply build your own....

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