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  • Phil B.
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    #12916
    Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

    Johns Hopkins Study: ‘Lockdowns Had Little to No Public Health Effects’ – Think Americana – Conservative Political News

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    • bsm2
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      #12917
      Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

      Yep Fake study Already posted by the other boob

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      • Copier Addict
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        #12918
        Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

        Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
        It's important that we admit our mistakes. The study shows that early on in the pandemic that lockdowns and restrictions were only .02% effective.


        We need to learn from this to better prepare for the next pandemic.

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        • bsm2
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          #12919
          Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

          Originally posted by copier addict
          Calling it a "Johns Hopkins" study doesn't actually make it a "Johns Hopkins" study.

          This working paper did make some bold claims. For example, it concluded that “lockdowns have had little to no public health effects, they have imposed enormous economic and social costs where they have been adopted. In consequence, lockdown policies are ill-founded and should be rejected as a pandemic policy instrument.” By the way, what did the authors consider lockdowns? Well, according to the working paper, “lockdowns are defined as the imposition of at least one compulsory, non-pharmaceutical intervention (NPI).”

          Holy changing definitions, Batman. By Herby, Jonung, and Hanke’s definition, even face mask requirements would be considered a “lockdown,” right? After all, face masks are a NPI since you don’t eat or inject face masks into you. Yet, how many times have your heard when wearing a mask, “how’s that lockdown of your face going?” Sure, a face mask may prevent your nose from wandering away from your face and partaking in a rave, before returning to your face in the morning. But other than that, face mask requirements really don’t restrict your ability to move away from your home. This doesn’t quite jibe with the Dictionary.com definition which describes a “lockdown” as “a security measure taken during an emergency to prevent people from leaving or entering a building or other location.” So unless you are wearing a ridiculously enormous face mask or one with BDSM chains attached to your friend, wearing a face mask shouldn’t prevent you from leaving or entering most buildings.

          OK, changing definitions aside, did this working paper really provide enough evidence to support its bold claims? In a word, no. In two words, heck no. The authors claimed that they performed a systematic review and meta-analysis. That should mean that they should have considered and included all published peer-reviewed studies relevant to the topic at hand. Yet, this working paper did not include or even acknowledge many such studies that have shown the benefits of NPI’s such as face mask wearing and social distancing without explaining why the three authors excluded such studies.

          Of the 34 “studies” included in the review, 12 of them were actually working papers. In fact, 14 of the “studies” were actually from economists with only one being from epidemiologist. This is odd since most of the key NPI research studies have been conducted by epidemiologists, medical researchers, and other public health experts. To qualify as a meta-analysis, a study needs to fulfill established criteria, which includes demonstrating that you’ve included all of the studies that have been published. Without providing clear evidence that you have done so, instead of “A Literature Review and Meta-Analysis of the Effects of Lockdowns on Covid-19 Mortality,” would a better title of this working paper have been “Stuff that We Selected to Support Our Point of View?”
          Just the title sounds like BS but the real suckers fall for it everytime.

          Anything but the TRUTH

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          • bsm2
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            #12920
            Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

            Fun Facts
            Unvaccinated people are 97% more likely to die of COVID than those who are fully vaccinated and boosted, according to new CDC information.

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            • slimslob
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              #12921
              Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

              Corporate Media Ignores Johns Hopkins Study Showing Lockdowns Were Futile - Truth Press

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              • Copier Addict
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                #12922
                Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

                Originally posted by bsm2
                Fun Facts
                Unvaccinated people are 97% more likely to die of COVID than those who are fully vaccinated and boosted, according to new CDC information.
                This stat doesn't push their narrative. They prefer to continually talk about infections. Even though nobody said you couldn't get infected after the vaccine.

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                • Copier Addict
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                  #12923
                  Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

                  There was no "Johns Hopkins" study. It's a paper written by three people, one who works at Johns Hopkins, and two economists.
                  Using criteria to produce a specific result.

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                  • bsm2
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                    #12924
                    Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

                    Originally posted by copier addict
                    There was no "Johns Hopkins" study. It's a paper written by three people, one who works at Johns Hopkins, and two economists.
                    Using criteria to produce a specific result.
                    A fake BS result.

                    Seems they believe in Horse Doctors for medical care.

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                    • slimslob
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                      #12925
                      Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

                      CDC Signals Changes to COVID-19 Vaccine Schedule, in Part to Address Heart Inflammation

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                      • slimslob
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                        #12926
                        Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

                        COVID-19 Vaccines for Moderately or Severely Immunocompromised People | CDC

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                        • slimslob
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                          #12927
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                          Watch: Psaki Dodges When Reporter Asks About Johns Hopkins Lockdown Study

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                          • BillyCarpenter
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                            #12928
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                            Reading thru the last couple of pages on this thread is an example of what's wrong with the country. The left is arguing that lockdowns were highly effective but it was Trump who made the wise decision to lockdown the country, not Biden.

                            And some are referring to the latest study done as fake news that was conducted by bums.


                            Even Bill Maher sees that many mistakes were made and that the left refuses to acknowledge them. Liberals used to stand up to "the man", but now it seems that they worship "the man" and he can do no wrong. Just an observation.
                            Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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                            • bsm2
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                              #12929
                              Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

                              Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                              Reading thru the last couple of pages on this thread is an example of what's wrong with the country. The left is arguing that lockdowns were highly effective but it was Trump who made the wise decision to lockdown the country, not Biden.

                              And some are referring to the latest study done as fake news that was conducted by bums.


                              Even Bill Maher sees that many mistakes were made and that the left refuses to acknowledge them. Liberals used to stand up to "the man", but now it seems that they worship "the man" and he can do no wrong. Just an observation.
                              Better move to Canada
                              PS the Study is Fake buddy can't you read?


                              said the authors of the study, which is not peer-reviewed and reflects the authors' views, not necessarily those of the university.

                              Back to class rookie
                              READING REQUIRED
                              Just an observation.

                              BTW who's The Man?

                              Bill Maher a comedian Buddy suggest you find a better person for information.

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                              • Copier Addict
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                                #12930
                                Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

                                Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                                Reading thru the last couple of pages on this thread is an example of what's wrong with the country. The left is arguing that lockdowns were highly effective but it was Trump who made the wise decision to lockdown the country, not Biden.

                                And some are referring to the latest study done as fake news that was conducted by bums.


                                Even Bill Maher sees that many mistakes were made and that the left refuses to acknowledge them. Liberals used to stand up to "the man", but now it seems that they worship "the man" and he can do no wrong. Just an observation.
                                Calling this so called "Johns Hopkins study" garbage isn't actually saying anything about whether lockdowns worked or not. All it's saying is the so called "Johns Hopkins study" isn't a real study. It was put together using criteria to produce a specific result.

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