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  • slimslob
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    • May 2013
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    #4606
    Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

    Originally posted by copiertec
    I have a few of questions about the injection...Just questions about the information provided to me by the cdc, that's it. 1) what does unapproved mean in the highlighted sentences 2) the word "may" prevent??? I thought I was receiving this because it protected me, not "may" protect me, the word "may" here is very dubious to say the least. Just some thoughts. Maybe some of the more astute needle advocates could enlighten me?

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    Legalese. If they say "will' and for a small percentage of the population it fails to fully protect, or someone gets exposed between the 2 shots or before your bodies has time to fully build immunity after the second shot, then everyone involved involved could be sued.

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    • bsm2
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      #4607
      Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

      Originally posted by copiertec
      I have a few of questions about the injection...Just questions about the information provided to me by the cdc, that's it. 1) what does unapproved mean in the highlighted sentences 2) the word "may" prevent??? I thought I was receiving this because it protected me, not "may" protect me, the word "may" here is very dubious to say the least. Just some thoughts. Maybe some of the more astute needle advocates could enlighten me?

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      May protect as both vaccines so far have 94 to 95 % effective rate so you still have a 5% risk of contracting the virus.

      Think of it like condoms not 100% protection.

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      • SalesServiceGuy
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        #4608
        Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

        Originally posted by bsm2
        May protect as both vaccines so far have 94 to 95 % effective rate so you still have a 5% risk of contracting the virus.

        Think of it like condoms not 100% protection.
        People who are asymptomatic immediately before they get a COVID-19 vaccine or contract COVID before they get the second dose will have a reduced level of efficacy from the vaccine.

        There are no 100% guarantees the vaccine will work for you.

        ... meaning for years to come, we are going to be wearing masks.
        Last edited by SalesServiceGuy; 01-13-2021, 03:31 AM.

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        • SalesServiceGuy
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          #4609
          Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

          Jan 6th's mob attack on the US capitol building has become a super spreader COVID-19 event infecting at least three members of Congress. There were 100s of unmasked people inside the building who were not allowed to be there, There were many unmasked Republican members of Congress who refused to wear a mask during the riot in defiance of the pleas of other members of Congress to put one on.

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          • copiertec
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            #4610
            Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

            In the pdf from the cdc, it states it's "unapproved," what exactly does that mean? Unapproved by who?

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            • slimslob
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              #4611
              Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

              Originally posted by copiertec
              In the pdf from the cdc, it states it's "unapproved," what exactly does that mean? Unapproved by who?
              If you look in the first paragraph of the second page you will see "authorized the emergency use." That is it has not yet completed the normal 4 phases of clinical trials.
              • Phase I is typically several months.
              • Phase II can span several months to 2 years.
              • Phase III is usually 1 to 4 years.
              • Phase IV the same as that for a Phase III clinical trial or even longer.

              Without the emergency approval by world leaders none of the vaccines would not be finally "approved" for use until time next year.

              How Long Do Clinical Trials Take? How Fast Do Clinical Trials Work?

              Here’s what the different "phases" of vaccine production really mean | Salon.com

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              • bsm2
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                • bsm2
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                  #4613

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                  • bsm2
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                    • Phil B.
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                      #4615
                      Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

                      Cumface from NY let thousands of shots go to people that weren't on the list. They have had to DESTROY thousands of doses due to mishandling the product. ONCE the vaccine the Federal Gov't really has no say on WHERE/To Whom the shots get given to.

                      Trump is hardly to blame for that.

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                      • bsm2
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                        #4616
                        Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

                        Originally posted by Phil B.
                        Cumface from NY let thousands of shots go to people that weren't on the list. They have had to DESTROY thousands of doses due to mishandling the product. ONCE the vaccine the Federal Gov't really has no say on WHERE/To Whom the shots get given to.

                        Trump is hardly to blame for that.

                        Sorry Buddy you can't admit that the Trump Administration is a Colossal FAILURE

                        20 million promised vs less than 3 million equals FAILURE

                        Who's in charge in your alternate world of facts?

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                        • Phil B.
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                          Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

                          UPDATE: CDC Study Gives Conflicting Data on Virus Spread

                          The same report suggests the airflow in the area spreads the virus even if everyone wears face masks and honestly, with the recent statement from the CDC that masks don't work to protect you from the virus if you wear one, it really just brings so much into question.

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                          • Copier Addict
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                            #4618
                            Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

                            Originally posted by Phil B.
                            UPDATE: CDC Study Gives Conflicting Data on Virus Spread

                            The same report suggests the airflow in the area spreads the virus even if everyone wears face masks and honestly, with the recent statement from the CDC that masks don't work to protect you from the virus if you wear one, it really just brings so much into question.
                            Thanks for restating what everyone already knows. Masks are not 100% effective. They are one tool among others for combating the spread of covid

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                            • BillyCarpenter
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                              #4619
                              Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

                              Originally posted by copier addict
                              Thanks for restating what everyone already knows. Masks are not 100% effective. They are one tool among others for combating the spread of covid

                              Unfortunately masks and lockdowns don't seem to be working as evidenced by liberal states such as California and New York...who are doing the worst. I'm ready for things to get back to normal.
                              Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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                              • Phil B.
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                                #4620
                                Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

                                Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                                Unfortunately masks and lockdowns don't seem to be working as evidenced by liberal states such as California and New York...who are doing the worst. I'm ready for things to get back to normal.
                                i find it rather strange that when Trump called for re-opening the country... the dems balked at the idea... now even Cumface is calling for the country to reopen... he is not the only one.

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