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**Phil B.** · 09-10-2021, 06:08 AM

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Originally posted by bsm2

Government Can Require People To Be Healthy, But Cannot Require People To Get Sick

I do NOT believe he has the power that he proposes.
Health is NOT enumerated in the Constituon therefore the STATE has the say so

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**bsm2** · 09-10-2021, 09:20 AM

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Originally posted by Phil B.

I do NOT believe he has the power that he proposes.
Health is NOT enumerated in the Constituon therefore the STATE has the say so

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Yes He Does

and it's Constitution

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**bsm2** · 09-10-2021, 09:41 AM

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D-day on delta: President Biden escalates the COVID-19 vaccination push; he had no choice

The government’s first responsibility is to protect human lives. So President Biden yesterday was right and right on time to lay down a simple “no jab, no job” COVID-19 vaccine ultimatum for the nation’s largest employer, Uncle Sam, as well as for federal contractors.
His most sweeping mandate — a Labor Department rule requiring all private businesses with more than 100 employees make their workers get their shots, or take weekly coronavirus tests, with penalties of up to $14,000 per violation — will be a challenge to defend against inevitable lawsuits. (Can a work-from-home employee be compelled to get vaccinated? Will the legal logic hold even though vaccination does not stop spread?) But give the president credit for trying to save lives, and for taking the mandate of the Occupational Safety and Health Administration both seriously and literally.
Others should follow his lead, as the Los Angeles schools did by making all eligible students get vaccinated. If students must get their shots for largely conquered diseases like polio and diphtheria, as they do across America, the case is 10 times stronger to guard against a raging plague that’s clogging hospitals.

More than 650,000 Americans have died from COVID-19. If current daily death counts fueled by the contagious delta variant (in excess of 1,500) remain constant, that horrifying total will reach 1 million in just 233 more days.
They will not remain constant. To some extent, the virus ebbs and flows in ways beyond our control. To a larger extent, the United States controls its destiny, with masking one way to slow spread and an ample supply of free, highly effective vaccines that all but guarantee those who get infected will not land in the ICU or the graveyard. Yet just 54% of Americans have gotten their shots, an unacceptably low rate.
The weapons to win the war are in our hands. The only way out of another year of agony and Zoom funerals and widespread economic disruption is the inoculation of millions. Roll up your sleeve, America.

**bsm2** · 09-10-2021, 10:00 AM

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**bsm2** · 09-10-2021, 10:14 AM

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**bsm2** · 09-10-2021, 10:33 AM

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**BillyCarpenter** · 09-10-2021, 11:19 AM

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Originally posted by Phil B.

Mandates on the shot are IF'Y per each state.
Since this issue is not discussed in the Constitution.

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Phil may be right on this. I did a little research so I retract my previous statement. It appears to me that this is a states right issue and should be left up to the individual states. I think this move by Biden is likely to be struck down.

**bsm2** · 09-10-2021, 12:18 PM

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Originally posted by BillyCarpenter

Phil may be right on this. I did a little research so I retract my previous statement. It appears to me that this is a states right issue and should be left up to the individual states. I think this move by Biden is likely to be struck down.

Wrong Again

What a Surprise

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Sure hope you replace your vaccine card your going to need it.

**bsm2** · 09-10-2021, 12:33 PM

**Phil B.** · 09-10-2021, 01:23 PM

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Originally posted by bsm2

Wrong Again

What a Surprise

Get the Vaccine

Sure hope you replace your vaccine card your going to need it.

You spout your shit never back it up with facts.. oh thats right, you libs hate facts.

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**BillyCarpenter** · 09-10-2021, 01:40 PM

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Originally posted by tonerhead

Denmark Lifts All Coronavirus Restrictions Except Entry Rules

Comments? Laws are made to protect. MLK is right that unjust laws should be challenged. However mandating vacinations, masks, and curfews are about public safety, not unjust laws of discrimination. You say Biden is waffelling, he first came out saying not mandatory, he was probably thinking most people would use common sense so a mandation would not be necessary. Since people are not complying he is looking out for the majority and working to make it mandatory.

That's part of the trouble with politicians and public opinion. Politicians are not allowed to change their views or they are viewed as waffles. Politicians are not allowed to contradict their party or they are traitors to their party and removed from party positions by the party.

Screw it all. American's only want to look out for themselves, not their fellow citizens. This goes both sides of the issues. The media wants to provoke both sides so it can make more money, congrats they have succeeded.

Don't tell me to leave America, because it's not that I don't want to, I am stuck here with the rest of you. America has really lost it's moral compass. It's all about money or 5 minutes of fame. Definitely not the America I grew up in.

You're taking a very narrow view on what the government should be allowed to do. Today it's a vaccine, tomorrow they may want to ban beef and sugar in the name of public health. I mean, how many people die each year of heart disease?

**SalesServiceGuy** · 09-10-2021, 01:46 PM

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Originally posted by BillyCarpenter

You're taking a very narrow view on what the government should be allowed to do. Today it's a vaccine, tomorrow they may want to ban beef and sugar in the name of public health. I mean, how many people die each year of heart disease?

... an extremely unlikely hypothetical that has not killed anyone in the USA in the numbers that COVID-19 has.

**BillyCarpenter** · 09-10-2021, 01:54 PM

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Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy

... an extremely unlikely hypothetical that has not killed anyone in the USA in the numbers that COVID-19 has.

Let's go by the facts and the facts say different.

**SalesServiceGuy** · 09-10-2021, 01:59 PM

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Originally posted by BillyCarpenter

Let's go by the facts and the facts say different.

... what point are you trying to make?

**BillyCarpenter** · 09-10-2021, 02:02 PM

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Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy

... what point are you trying to make?

That today the government is forcing Americans to get a vaccine. Tomorrow they may ban foods that they deem unhealthy. It's a slippery slope and we should all take a minute and think about it.