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[tonerhead]

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You're taking a very narrow view on what the government should be allowed to do. Today it's a vaccine, tomorrow they may want to ban beef and sugar in the name of public health. I mean, how many people die each year of heart disease?

Look at liquor in the 1930's, that didn't work out. You are talking about options. We can all live healthier lives. Maybe the gov should ban tabacco products. At least they are getting after the tabacco products trying to seduce children. These are options. We are all responsible for our own life outcomes.

Now tell the 91 year old who contracts the virus because someone was defiant. This person wasn't trying to get the virus.

[tonerhead]

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Let's go by the facts and the facts say different.

You know about 60-sum% of the US adults are vacinated. Can you imagine the additional covid deaths if this was not the case?

[BillyCarpenter]

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You know about 60-sum% of the US adults are vacinated. Can you imagine the additional covid deaths if this was not the case?

We know how many it would be because the vaccine hasn't been available until recently. My point still stands, where do we draw the line on what the government can force us to do? I'm just asking.

[BillyCarpenter]

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Look at liquor in the 1930's, that didn't work out. You are talking about options. We can all live healthier lives. Maybe the gov should ban tabacco products. At least they are getting after the tabacco products trying to seduce children. These are options. We are all responsible for our own life outcomes.

Now tell the 91 year old who contracts the virus because someone was defiant. This person wasn't trying to get the virus.

Let me give you the liberal argument. A large percentage of folks have healthcare thru the government and that means our tax dollars are paying for it. Should they (obese/unhealthy living) be allowed to have Medicare if they smoke and are obese? Or should the government cut them off?

[SalesServiceGuy]

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That today the government is forcing Americans to get a vaccine. Tomorrow they may ban foods that they deem unhealthy. It's a slippery slope and we should all take a minute and think about it.

.. about the same chance as getting hit by a meteorite. If you want to worry abut that while trying to make some silly point, go for it.

[BillyCarpenter]

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.. about the same chance as getting hit by a meteorite. If you want to worry abut that while trying to make some silly point, go for it.

Years ago I debated liberals about gay rights and they assured me that I had nothing to worry about when it came to someone with a penis being allowed in the girl's restroom. I don't trust a promise by a big government liberal any further than I can throw him.

[BillyCarpenter]

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By the way, Joe Biden himself said that a vaccine shouldn't be mandated. He only changed his mind after his poll numbers went in the toilet.

[SalesServiceGuy]

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By the way, Joe Biden himself said that a vaccine shouldn't be mandated. He only changed his mind after his poll numbers went in the toilet.

... President Biden said that well before COVID-19 mutated into the far more deadly, far more contagious COVID-19D caused in large part by unvaccinated Americans refusing to do so.

Sorry, no President has a crystal ball into the future.

I do not think that President Biden spends a lot of time worrying about his poll numbers right now.

[BillyCarpenter]

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My advice to anyone who wants to stop the vaccine mandate is to protest. Simply follow the example set by liberals. Burn down some buildings. Do some looting. Take over a city block or 2. And get up in the face of liberals when they're eating or out in public. Show up at the house or an elected official.

[Copier Addict]

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My advice to anyone who wants to stop the vaccine mandate is to protest. Simply follow the example set by liberals. Burn down some buildings. Do some looting. Take over a city block or 2. And get up in the face of liberals when they're eating or out in public. Show up at the house or an elected official.

And attempt to kidnap and lynch them, oh yeah that was crazy right wingers.

Your comparison is a tiny bit flawed. The protesters you are referring to were protesting being killed by authority figures. You are suggesting people protest because someone is trying to save their health. Silly when you actually think about it. But there ain't much thinking when it comes to anti-vaxxers

[slimslob]

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... what point are you trying to make?

That you were wrong when you said an extremely unlikely hypothetical that has not killed anyone in the USA in the numbers that COVID-19 has. In 2020, the only year for which totals are available for both heart disease was the #1 cause of adult deaths.
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The #1 overall cause of deaths remains abortions at over 29 million so far this year worldwide. That is triple the total deaths from ALL communicable diseases. Worldometer - real time world statistics

[BillyCarpenter]

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And attempt to kidnap and lynch them, oh yeah that was crazy right wingers.

Your comparison is a tiny bit flawed. The protesters you are referring to were protesting being killed by authority figures. You are suggesting people protest because someone is trying to save their health. Silly when you actually think about it. But there ain't much thinking when it comes to anti-vaxxers

You don't get to decide what people protest or how important it is to them. Democrats made it okay to use violence as a form of protest. That's a fact.

[BillyCarpenter]

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The Hypocrisy is strong with this one. I'm getting dizzy from the flip flops.

Pelosi in April 2021: 'We Cannot Require Someone to be Vaccinated. That's Just Not What We Can Do'









House Speaker Nancy Pelosi
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On Thursday, President Joe Biden announced that he is mandating COVID vaccines for the entire federal workforce and federal contractors and requiring large employers to ensure their employees are either vaccinated or tested weekly – but, in April, Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) declared that “We cannot require someone to be vaccinated.”


“Why not consider something like requiring that everyone be fully vaccinated?” a reporter asked Pelosi at an April 29, 2021 press conference, to which Pelosi repeatedly replied that vaccinations cannot be mandated:


“So, here’s the thing: we cannot require someone to be vaccinated. That's just not what we can do.”


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“So, if we could, but we can't require vaccinations for the Members - much less for the American people. Some people want to say, ‘Don't come into my store unless you're vaccinated, this or that.’ It causes commotion.”


“So, here’s the thing: we cannot require someone to be vaccinated. That's just not what we can do.”


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“So, if we could, but we can't require vaccinations for the Members - much less for the American people. Some people want to say, ‘Don't come into my store unless you're vaccinated, this or that.’ It causes commotion.”

It's the terrible poll numbers that made democrats change on mandates.

[Copier Addict]

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You don't get to decide what people protest or how important it is to them. Democrats made it okay to use violence as a form of protest. That's a fact.

Did it sound like I was saying people can't protest to you? I was simply pointing out the flaw in your comparison of reasons to protest. Good straw man though

[BillyCarpenter]

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Did it sound like I was saying people can't protest to you? I was simply pointing out the flaw in your comparison of reasons to protest. Good straw man though

Wrong. You simply gave your opinion on when violence is acceptable. According to you, violent protests are acceptable when protesting the police but not when the government is forcing a needle in your arm.