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  • Copier Addict
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    Re: Breaking: Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Champion Of Gender Equality, Dies At 87

    Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
    Let me make short work of destroying your argument that men should have no say in what a woman does with her body. Don't run. Don't hide. Don't deflect. Answer the question since you're so confident with your position that the woman has full say in what she does with her body.

    A big issue in the USA is late term abortion. Many democrats support late term abortion. But some democrats oppose it. I think every republican oppose it.

    3rd trimester = 7,8 and 9 months.

    Late term abortion is generally defined as the 3rd trimester.

    My question to you is this and it's very simple

    Both dems (some) and republican oppose late term abortion. Are we infringing on what a woman does with her body? A simple yes or no will suffice.

    2nd question:

    What is your stance on late term abortion? What's is the limit in your mind? 7,8, 9 months? What? Answer the question.
    I just thought you might want to read this.

    The phrase "late-term abortion" is medically inaccurate and has no clinical meaning. In science and medicine, it's essential to use language precisely. In pregnancy, to be "late term" means to be past 41 weeks gestation, or past a patient's due date. Abortions do not occur in this time period, so the phrase is contradictory.

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    • BillyCarpenter
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      Re: Breaking: Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Champion Of Gender Equality, Dies At 87

      Originally posted by copier addict
      I just thought you might want to read this.

      The phrase "late-term abortion" is medically inaccurate and has no clinical meaning. In science and medicine, it's essential to use language precisely. In pregnancy, to be "late term" means to be past 41 weeks gestation, or past a patient's due date. Abortions do not occur in this time period, so the phrase is contradictory.

      Whatever. It's not important to the point I'm attempting to make. You and I both agree that there IS a limit in terms of months when we can restrict an abortion.

      In short, we have established that men can tell a woman what she can and can't do with her body. Unless you believe there should be no limit.

      Stop dodging my question. What is the limit in your mind???
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        Re: Breaking: Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Champion Of Gender Equality, Dies At 87

        Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
        Whatever. It's not important to the point I'm attempting to make. You and I both agree that there IS a limit in terms of months when we can restrict an abortion.

        In short, we have established that men can tell a woman what she can and can't do with her body. Unless you believe there should be no limit.

        Stop dodging my question. What is the limit in your mind???
        There you go with that all or nothing view of yours.
        I don't "tell" women anything they can or can't do with their own body. A person could suggest.
        Abortions later in pregnancy are very rare, and done if the mother's life is in danger or the fetus has a very limited chance of survival.

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        • slimslob
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          #94
          Re: Breaking: Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Champion Of Gender Equality, Dies At 87

          Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
          I always get sucked back in.

          Before we go ANY FURTHER we need to address your fundamental misunderstanding of what a "RIGHT" is and isn't.
          The actual rule had to do with being a private matter between a woman and her personal doctor. In my opinion a Planned Parenthood abortion clinic by their very existence violates that every day that are open. It becomes very to any person in the area that any woman who enters the clinic obviously pregnant and leaves no longer pregnant has had an abortion.

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            Re: Breaking: Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Champion Of Gender Equality, Dies At 87

            Originally posted by copier addict
            There you go with that all or nothing view of yours.
            I don't "tell" women anything they can or can't do with their own body. A person could suggest.
            Abortions later in pregnancy are very rare, and done if the mother's life is in danger or the fetus has a very limited chance of survival.
            You refuse to answer the question as to what the limit should be on abortion. You're scared to answer because it puts you in a pickle. If you admit that there should be a law that restricts an abortion after so many months, you're effectively TELLING a woman what she can do with her body. It's NOT a suggestion. EVERY state in the union imposes such restrictions.

            If you say that there should be no limit, you'll sound like a fool.

            I win. You lose.
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              Re: Breaking: Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Champion Of Gender Equality, Dies At 87

              Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
              You refuse to answer the question as to what the limit should be on abortion. You're scared to answer because it puts you in a pickle. If you admit that there should be a law that restricts an abortion after so many months, you're effectively TELLING a woman what she can do with her body. It's NOT a suggestion. EVERY state in the union imposes such restrictions.

              If you say that there should be no limit, you'll sound like a fool.

              I win. You lose.
              If you say so. Lol
              I told you already, if I want to answer something, I will. If not, I won't. It doesn't mean you know what my answer is. You can go ahead and assume whatever you want. Your little jabs don't bother me.

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                Re: Breaking: Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Champion Of Gender Equality, Dies At 87

                Originally posted by slimslob
                The actual rule had to do with being a private matter between a woman and her personal doctor. In my opinion a Planned Parenthood abortion clinic by their very existence violates that every day that are open. It becomes very to any person in the area that any woman who enters the clinic obviously pregnant and leaves no longer pregnant has had an abortion.
                That's an angle I really haven't thought about. I disagree with the whole justification that was used under the Right to Privacy. What else can be justified using that rationale? Can we have legal suicide using that same understanding? Maybe I'm depressed and want to end it.
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                  Re: Breaking: Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Champion Of Gender Equality, Dies At 87

                  Originally posted by copier addict
                  If you say so. Lol
                  I told you already, if I want to answer something, I will. If not, I won't. It doesn't mean you know what my answer is. You can go ahead and assume whatever you want. Your little jabs don't bother me.
                  Not answering a question disqualifies you and it makes you look weak and confused. You're getting good at not answering. I'll give you that.


                  By the way, do you read slim's post? They're intelligent and well thought out. They bring something to the table.

                  You, on the other hand, go on rants talking about men can't tell a woman what to do. It a zero burger that is designed to shut down debate. Epic fail.
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                    Re: Breaking: Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Champion Of Gender Equality, Dies At 87

                    Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                    Not answering a question disqualifies you and it makes you look weak and confused. You're getting good at not answering. I'll give you that.
                    Where you see only black and white I see a lot of grey. Everyone has their own problems and reasons for doing things and it certainly isn't for me to tell them what they can or can't do.
                    If you feel you are qualified to tell others how to live their lives, so be it.

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                      Re: Breaking: Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Champion Of Gender Equality, Dies At 87

                      Originally posted by copier addict
                      Where you see only black and white I see a lot of grey. Everyone has their own problems and reasons for doing things and it certainly isn't for me to tell them what they can or can't do.
                      If you feel you are qualified to tell others how to live their lives, so be it.
                      You just don't bring much to the table, bro. You go on rants. You bring nothing substantive to the debate. You post democrat talking points about men not having the right to tell a woman what she can do with her body. It's designed to shut down honest debate because all men are disqualified. It's similar to the other BS from the democrats that white folk must shut up and listen to Black Lives Matter.
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                        Re: Breaking: Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Champion Of Gender Equality, Dies At 87

                        Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                        You just don't bring much to the table, bro. You go on rants. You bring nothing substantive to the debate. You post democrat talking points about men not having the right to tell a woman what she can do with her body. It's designed to shut down honest debate because all men are disqualified. It's similar to the other BS from the democrats that white folk must shut up and listen to Black Lives Matter.

                        Just because you don't like what I post you discredit it. Typical right way of shutting down a discussion.
                        We get it, you really dislike the politically left. You seem to believe all the right wing info and none of the left wing info. Does it seem likely that one side of the political spectrum is right about everything and the other side is wrong about everything. No, I am not trying to put words in your mouth. Just looking for an answer.

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                          Re: Breaking: Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Champion Of Gender Equality, Dies At 87

                          Originally posted by copier addict
                          Just because you don't like what I post you discredit it. Typical right way of shutting down a discussion.
                          We get it, you really dislike the politically left. You seem to believe all the right wing info and none of the left wing info. Does it seem likely that one side of the political spectrum is right about everything and the other side is wrong about everything. No, I am not trying to put words in your mouth. Just looking for an answer.
                          No, I actually like hearing from the left more than the right. Mainly because I like to hear the other side. My problem with you is that you don't bring much to the table. Basically all you said about abortion is that I don't have the right to tell a woman what to do. You got anything else? I get it. You don't think I have a right to say anything because I'm a man. What else you got? Anything? At all?

                          You refuse to answer basic questions like it's some kind of closely guarded secret that must not be released for pubic consumption. You never say why you won't answer. You say you'll answer if you feel like it. What's with you, man?
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                            Re: Breaking: Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Champion Of Gender Equality, Dies At 87

                            Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                            No, I actually like hearing from the left more than the right. Mainly because I like to hear the other side. My problem with you is that you don't bring much to the table. Basically all you said about abortion is that I don't have the right to tell a woman what to do. You got anything else? I get it. You don't think I have a right to say anything because I'm a man. What else you got? Anything? At all?

                            You refuse to answer basic questions like it's some kind of closely guarded secret that must not be released for pubic consumption. You never say why you won't answer. You say you'll answer if you feel like it. What's with you, man?

                            That's just you not reading what is being posted, again. A bad habit of yours. Just because you don't like what is posted doesn't make it any less informative.

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                              Re: Breaking: Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Champion Of Gender Equality, Dies At 87

                              Originally posted by copier addict
                              That's just you not reading what is being posted, again. A bad habit of yours. Just because you don't like what is posted doesn't make it any less informative.

                              You can't answer basic questions about abortion, bro.

                              And here's why you refuse to answer;

                              Abortion in Canada is legal at all stages of pregnancy and funded in part by the Canada Health Act. While some non-legal barriers to access continue to exist, such as lacking equal access to providers, Canada is the only nation with absolutely no specific legal restrictions on abortion.

                              In Canada it's legal to kill a baby up til the delivery date so long as it doesn't stick it's head out of the womb.


                              I never refuse to answer any of your quetions, why do you refuse to answer mine?

                              Let's try again?

                              Should there be any restrictions on abortion concerning the length of pregnancy? is it 4,5,6 months? What?

                              Are you a man or mouse? Squeak up.
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                                #105
                                Re: Breaking: Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Champion Of Gender Equality, Dies At 87

                                Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                                You can't answer basic questions about abortion, bro.

                                And here's why you refuse to answer;

                                Abortion in Canada is legal at all stages of pregnancy and funded in part by the Canada Health Act. While some non-legal barriers to access continue to exist, such as lacking equal access to providers, Canada is the only nation with absolutely no specific legal restrictions on abortion.

                                In Canada it's legal to kill a baby up til the delivery date so long as it doesn't stick it's head out of the womb.


                                I never refuse to answer any of your quetions, why do you refuse to answer mine?

                                Let's try again?

                                Should there be any restrictions on abortion concerning the length of pregnancy? is it 4,5,6 months? What?

                                Are you a man or mouse? Squeak up.
                                Seems You answered your own question. Its all about You
                                not the women or family that decide.

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