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  • bsm2
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    #5806
    Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

    Originally posted by FrohnB
    Sounds like something the previous administration already did!

    Oooooh, Wait........That's Right...........Biden stopped that in his first week in office!

    (CNN) - A freeze by the new Biden administration on Trump-era regulations will hit at least two rules aimed at lowering drug prices, including one dealing with insulin and EpiPens for under-served patients.

    Now, he's going to try and claim credit for it. What a Joke!

    Sincerely,
    Proud Member of the LGBFJB Community.
    No Joke that was the last Fail proven LOSER. Republicans plan do NOTHING.
    Biden getting shit Done

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    • SalesServiceGuy
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      #5807
      Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

      Originally posted by bsm2
      President Joe Biden


      Millions of folks across the country have diabetes, sometimes paying around $1,000 a month for insulin. It’s outrageous.
      With my Build Back Better Act, we’re going to ensure no one will pay more than $35 a month for their insulin.

      ... this is a serious problem in the US! Many Americans drive to Canada to purchase insulin because of much lower insulin prices.

      If President Biden can fix this, a lot of voters would be thrilled!

      Never mind the boo-birds on this thread who want to argue first, think later.

      Americans pay sky high prices because American drug companies charge skyhigh prices.




      The US is a global outlier on money spent on the drug, representing only 15 percent of the global insulin market and generating almost half of the pharmaceutical industry’s insulin revenue.

      The doctors and researchers who study insulin say it is yet another example — along with EpiPens and decades-old generic drugs — of companies raising the cost of their products because of the lax regulatory environment around drug pricing. “They are doing it because they can,” Jing Luo, a researcher at Brigham and Women’s Hospital, told Vox in 2017, “and it’s scary because it happens in all kinds of different drugs and drug classes.”
      In countries with single-payer health systems, governments exert much more influence over the entire health care process.


      America has long taken a free market approach to pharmaceuticals.
      Drug companies haggle separately over drug prices with a variety of private insurers across the country. Meanwhile, Medicare, the government health program for those over age 65 — it’s also the nation’s largest buyer of drugs — is barred from negotiating drug prices.
      That gives pharma more leverage, and it leads to the kind of price surges we’ve seen with EpiPens, recent opioid antidotes — and insulin.

      “The list price of these products are already out of reach for most Americans living with diabetes — in some cases, over $300 a vial,” he said. “It is also strange to see Humulin still priced at over $150 a vial considering this product was first sold in the US in 1982.”


      Drugmakers do this because they can

      So insulin’s drug pricing problem is much bigger than anything one state — or drug company — alone can fix. But more changes in the market may be on the horizon.

      The three major insulin makers — Eli Lilly, Novo Nordisk, and Sanofi — testified before the House Energy and Commerce’s oversight subcommittee last April, focusing more attention on the issue. Lawmakers, including Sens. Chuck Grassley (R-IA) and Ron Wyden (D-OR), have also been investigating the problem and sending letters to drug companies asking them to account for their outrageous price hikes.

      But while the pressure around insulin may be mounting, we’re also seeing the terrible impact of rising insulin prices on patients: people being forced to taper off insulin so they can pay their medical bills, and winding up with kidney failure, blindness, or even death.

      Some are forced to head to Canada, where drug prices are more heavily regulated and, according to the new NEJM editorial, where a carton of insulin costs $20 instead of the $300 patients often pay in the US. “Of course, there isn’t enough insulin in all of Canada to make large-scale importation feasible,” the editorial authors wrote.

      One real solution to the problem, however, would be to bring a generic version of insulin to the market. There are currently no true generic options available (though there are several rebranded and biosimilar insulins). This is in part because companies have made those incremental improvements to insulin products, which has allowed them to keep their formulations under patent, and because older insulin formulations have fallen out of fashion.

      But not all insulins are patent-protected. For example, none of Eli Lilly’s insulins are, according to the drugmaker. In those cases, Luo said, potential manufacturers may be deterred by secondary patents on non-active ingredients in insulins or on associated devices (such as insulin delivery pens).

      There’s also “extreme regulatory complexity” around bringing follow-on generic insulins to market, Luo added. And that’s something regulators, such as the Food and Drug Administration, have been working to streamline. History has shown that their efforts are worthwhile: When cheaper generic options are introduced to the market, overall drug prices come down.

      A century after insulin was discovered, it’s about time we had one!

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      • FrohnB
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        #5808
        Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

        Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
        ... this is a serious problem in the US! Many Americans drive to Canada to purchase insulin because of much lower insulin prices.

        If President Biden can fix this, a lot of voters would be thrilled!

        Never mind the boo-birds on this thread who want to argue first, think later.

        Americans pay sky high prices because American drug companies charge skyhigh prices.
        Again, President Trump had legislation and regulations set in place to drop prices for insulin to the lowest levels ever seen.
        Then, in his first week in office, President Biden froze those regulations and then did out with them completely, and is now trying to "craft legislation" to "get the job done".........the job was already done, but Biden came in and voided it, because....."OrAnGe MaN bAd"!

        Just fits his pattern of plagiarism to a T!


        #LetsGoBrandon
        #FJB
        Omertà

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        • SalesServiceGuy
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          #5809
          Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

          Originally posted by FrohnB
          Again, President Trump had legislation and regulations set in place to drop prices for insulin to the lowest levels ever seen.
          Then, in his first week in office, President Biden froze those regulations and then did out with them completely, and is now trying to "craft legislation" to "get the job done".........the job was already done, but Biden came in and voided it, because....."OrAnGe MaN bAd"!

          Just fits his pattern of plagiarism to a T!


          #LetsGoBrandon
          #FJB
          ... I do not think Americans who pay $1,000.00 a month for insulin really cares about giving the ex President credit for anything.

          That Presiden thas four years and nothing happened despite his claims.

          They want this President, the one today and now, to make lower prices happen by a combination of price concessions from the drug companies and others in the health care channel to creating a generic insulin.

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          • BillyCarpenter
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            #5810
            Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

            Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
            ... I do not think Americans who pay $1,000.00 a month for insulin really cares about giving the ex President credit for anything.

            That Presiden thas four years and nothing happened despite his claims.




            They want this President, the one today and now, to make lower prices happen by a combination of price concessions from the drug companies and others in the health care channel to creating a generic insulin.

            The troops in Afghanistan wanted to come home alive to see their kids and parents. Because of Joe Biden, they're in the graveyard. Everything he's touched has turned to shit. And he's about to make inflation much worse and it's already killing the poor and middle class.
            Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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            • bsm2
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              #5811
              Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

              Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
              The troops in Afghanistan wanted to come home alive to see their kids and parents. Because of Joe Biden, they're in the graveyard. Everything he's touched has turned to shit. And he's about to make inflation much worse and it's already killing the poor and middle class.
              Good News Billy News Flash
              the WARS in Afghanistan is OVER the troops are either home or redeploy.

              Thanks to President BIDEN

              To bad Mississippi sucks come to Florida it's GREAT.
              Jobs Jobs Jobs Everywhere

              No worries about COVID19 here the GOVERNOR wants to infect everyone or you can bring it back with you.

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              • BillyCarpenter
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                #5812
                Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

                Originally posted by bsm2
                Good News Billy News Flash
                the WARS in Afghanistan the troops are either home or redeploy.

                Thanks to President BIDEN

                To bad Mississippi sucks come to Florida it GREAT.
                Jobs Lobs Jobs Everywhere

                Unfortunately, 13 troops won't be coming home for the holidays this year because Biden killed them.
                Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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                • bsm2
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                  #5813
                  Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

                  Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                  Unfortunately, 13 troops won't be coming home for the holidays this year because Biden killed them.
                  News Flash Billy's
                  Killed by a Terrorist bomber
                  man your internet Sucks

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                  • SalesServiceGuy
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                    #5814
                    Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

                    GM takes a stake in electric boating start-up Pure Watercraft

                    blog post in October

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                    • Phil B.
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                      #5815
                      Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

                      Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                      Unfortunately, 13 troops won't be coming home for the holidays this year because Biden killed them.
                      They DIDN'T get all military out... many military family members are still there also.
                      More liberal lies from the MSM.

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                      • Phil B.
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                        #5816
                        Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

                        Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
                        GM takes a stake in electric boating start-up Pure Watercraft

                        blog post in October
                        What charges the batteries? Electricity..from, more than likely, a fossil fuel plant.
                        Where do the materials come from to make the batteries? China

                        How is this " Building Back Better "?

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                        • BillyCarpenter
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                          Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

                          Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy

                          ... a 40 HP electric outboard engine and battery costs approx $12,000.00, emits no polutition, makes no noise, needs no gas, is low maintenance and needs no fluids. Comparable in cost to a gasoline engine +30%. The battery can recharge in two hours and run all day.

                          That price is outrageous. A 40 HP Mercury outboard motor costs $3,500.
                          Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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                          • bsm2
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                            #5818

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                            • SalesServiceGuy
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                              #5819
                              Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

                              Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                              That price is outrageous. A 40 HP Mercury outboard motor costs $3,500.

                              ... good luck trying to buy one with an electric start at that price. Remember every boating season you do not have to buy gas or carry it ot the boat the entire time, year after year. after year.

                              ... this innovation is only just getting started so over time the unit cost could come down.

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                              • slimslob
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                                #5820
                                Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

                                Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
                                GM takes a stake in electric boating start-up Pure Watercraft


                                blog post in October
                                Well at least with a boat when the battery decides to explode the amount of damage will be limited to the boat when it is out on the water. The occupants of the boat might not survive though.

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