The Shining City Upon a Hill

[Copier Addict]

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A well respected economist said last week, "If you didn't get a 6% raise this year, then you have taken a 6% pay cut." Plain and simple.

These companies that are "upping their pay" are merely keeping peoples' incomes RIGHT WHERE THEY WERE due to this "little thing" called Inflation!

Doesn't take a fuckin' rocket scientist to figure that out!

What point are you trying to make here.
It seems you are against pay raises. Is that true?
Or are you pro pay raises.
Or are you simply confrontational and against anything that comes from what you consider a "liberal" source regardless of the content?

[BillyCarpenter]

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Or are you pro pay raises.

That depends. Is our government forcing the pay raise upon the company or was it the company's idea?

[Copier Addict]

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That depends. Is our government forcing the pay raise upon the company or was it the company's idea?

I don't have the time or inclination to go through how raising the minimum wage is good for the economy in general. Do the research your self. Maybe take a course.

[BillyCarpenter]

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I don't have the time or inclination to go through how raising the minimum wage is good for the economy in general. Do the research your self. Maybe take a course.

It's shocking that you've never met a government mandate that you didn't like. You've probably never owned a business in your life.

[FrohnB]

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What point are you trying to make here.
It seems you are against pay raises. Is that true?
Or are you pro pay raises.
Or are you simply confrontational and against anything that comes from what you consider a "liberal" source regardless of the content?

Your Canadian counterpart posted about CostCo raising their pay, BY A DOLLAR, like it was some honorable gesture from the company to retain or gain employees. When in fact, they are merely trying to keep up with inflation, which they are still falling short of with their "pay raise". Your buddy seems to be ignorant of the fact that inflation is outpacing any type of "wage growth" in this country.

I'm all for raising someone's pay, when they earn it!
I'm not for raising people's pay "just because". People generally get a pay raise either by tenure, kicking ass at a position, or by adding more responsibilities for an employee (such as moving up to a supervisor).
And I'm not going to applaud Costco or Walmart for "raising pay", when in reality, they are just trying to keep up with the ever-growing rate of inflation and cost of living, which will leave current and new employees in THE SAME BOAT as they were before financially.

If you didn't get a 6% pay raise this year, then you have taken a 6% pay cut! Plain and simple.

[Copier Addict]

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It's shocking that you've never met a government mandate that you didn't like. You've probably never owned a business in your life.

It's shocking how you whine the most but refuse to actually do any research to either prove or disprove what you continually whine about.

[BillyCarpenter]

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It's shocking how you whine the most but refuse to actually do any research to either prove or disprove what you continually whine about.

I owned my first business at the age of 23..if memory serves.


I don't need to read your liberal research. Unlike you, I have to make payroll every week. Moreover, the market does a fine job of dictating pay. I don't need a one size fits all mandate from a snot-nose liberal like yourself that never had the guts to open his own business. Sit in the corner and talk less. lol

[Copier Addict]

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I owned my first business at the age of 23..if memory serves.


I don't need to read your liberal research. Unlike you, I have to make payroll every week. Moreover, the market does a fine job of dictating pay. I don't need a one size fits all mandate from a snot-nose liberal like yourself that never had the guts to open his own business. Sit in the corner and talk less. lol

Oh, boohoo. Do you need a wambulance?
Of course you don't do research. That's not in question. You just whine continually. Carry on son!

[SalesServiceGuy]

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What point are you trying to make here.
It seems you are against pay raises. Is that true?
Or are you pro pay raises.
Or are you simply confrontational and against anything that comes from what you consider a "liberal" source regardless of the content?

"Or are you simply confrontational and against anything that comes from what you consider a "liberal" source regardless of the content?" Bingo!

[BillyCarpenter]

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Oh, boohoo. Do you need a wambulance?
Of course you don't do research. That's not in question. You just whine continually. Carry on son!

Talk less and always pay close attention to what I say. You'll be a better man for it. lol

[SalesServiceGuy]

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It's interesting to me that liberals refuse to do business with a cake store that refuses to bake a gay wedding cake but have no problem doing business with the Taliban. Just saying....

... you are taking isolated incidents and trying to generalize to support your theory. I am not aware the USA is permitting commercial business with the Taliban at this time. Still way too dangerous.

[Copier Addict]

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Talk less and always pay close attention to what I say. You'll be a better man for it. lol

Oh, and I forgot to mention you ego. Which is extremely large, considering all you do is continuously whine about things you refuse to actually research.
You can take my responses as a thank you for keeping me laughing. I truly appreciate all you do to keep me amused.

[progoffice]

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I don't have the time or inclination to go through how raising the minimum wage is good for the economy in general. Do the research your self. Maybe take a course.

We're going to pay you more but everything is now going to cost more and you might lose your job - where's the good in that? Let's say the new minimum wage was $15 an hour and a business could afford to pay that for 10 employees but they really need 15. Someone desperate for a job comes to the owner and is willing to work for $10 an hour, but the business owner would be breaking the law if he hired him/her at that rate. Minimum wage makes it illegal for a person to work at a wage they are willing to. It's a barrier to entry for those willing to work for less than what the government says they can.

[Copier Addict]

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We're going to pay you more but everything is now going to cost more and you might lose your job - where's the good in that? Let's say the new minimum wage was $15 an hour and a business could afford to pay that for 10 employees but they really need 15. Someone desperate for a job comes to the owner and is willing to work for $10 an hour, but the business owner would be breaking the law if he hired him/her at that rate. Minimum wage makes it illegal for a person to work at a wage they are willing to. It's a barrier to entry for those willing to work for less than what the government says they can.

Did you proof read this before you posted it?
Are you trying to say that there are people out there that would rather work for $10/hour than $15/hour? I would definitelt think twice about hiring someone like that. Especially if it's in a retail situation dealing with money.

[bsm2]

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Talk less and always pay close attention to what I say. You'll be a better man for it. lol

Good advice to bad your don't follow it.