canon hard drives

[tonerhead]

I am trying to use a canon hard drive in a computer. Unable to read/write to the hard drive as it needs a password. I am thinking Canon uses TPM to lock down their hard drives to the copier.

I have tried gparted, dban, and everything else, no sucess. Has anyone gotten past this password lockout?

Ricoh's are easy, just take the hdd, just do low level format and resuse. Not so easy with a canon.

[slimslob]

Re: canon hard drives

If Windows disk management won't allow access, try a low level disk format utility or a partitioning software such as MiniTool Partition Wizard. Try the free home edition first. It also comes in handy when you have an older machine that uses smaller USB thumb drives.

[Tricky]

Re: canon hard drives

Personally, I wouldn't use Windows for this job, since most copiers use a derivative of Linux.

Command line error messages can be searched with google, what do you get if you

sudo fdisk -l

also, what happens if you try and mount it, obviously /dev/sdb and /mnt/media need to be changed to your specifics.

sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/media

[tonerhead]

Re: canon hard drives

Thanks for the suggestions. Slim.... your suggested program did not work. Skynet.... I have tried mounting in linux, no worky.

So far I have tried low level format, gparted, command prompt, terminal, etc. I have tried to over write with Debian installer nothing works. During training once I asked the Canon trainer about this. He said nothing you can do to recover the disk for other uses. I am thinking he was correct.

If nothing else they might make excellent 50 yard targets on the shooting range.

[Michael]

[tsbservice]

Re: canon hard drives

Canon U.S.A., Inc. | Hard Drive Solutions
I guess You may try HDD format featured in machines.

[Tricky]

Re: canon hard drives

I asked the Canon trainer about this. He said nothing you can do to recover the disk for other uses. I am thinking he was correct.

Now you mention it I recall a bit about the training and the tpm module, it encrypts the hard drive to such an extent its unusable.

[tonerhead]

Re: canon hard drives


Here is the hitch. You can't mount a canon hdd in linux. Windows mmc actually sees the hard drive but it shows no media in the hdd. We even have a stand alone hdd eraser. Even that will not clear the tpm password. Whether it be windows or whatever there is always a read/write error to the hard drive because the tpm password is encoded into an eprom on the hdd from the copier. I put the sucker into a computer, the computer boots bios and the first thing askes for the hdd password.

Have you ever tried badblocks on a canon hdd? I would be curious to see if it works for you.

[slimslob]

Re: canon hard drives

the tpm password is encoded into an eprom on the hdd from the copier

And therein is the bugaboo. According to Asus "The HDD password protects all data stored on the hard disk, keeping the data safe from being read or overwritten by unauthorized users. The TPM creates cryptograhic keys and encrypts them so that they can only be decrypted by that particular TPM. This allows the hard disk drive to be tied to a particular device which has TPM embedded."

[copier tech]

Re: canon hard drives

I am trying to use a canon hard drive in a computer. Unable to read/write to the hard drive as it needs a password. I am thinking Canon uses TPM to lock down their hard drives to the copier.

I have tried gparted, dban, and everything else, no sucess. Has anyone gotten past this password lockout?

Ricoh's are easy, just take the hdd, just do low level format and resuse. Not so easy with a canon.

Which model Canon did the drive come from?

[tonerhead]

Re: canon hard drives

Which model Canon did the drive come from?

C250. Doesn't matter though, I've tried others with same result.

[Michael]

4 Unlock And Recover Hard Drive Password With Hard Disk Password Removal Tool

[slimslob]

Re: canon hard drives

4 Unlock And Recover Hard Drive Password With Hard Disk Password Removal Tool

One problem with that link. It does not cover TPM encrypted drives. They use a triple level access, password, encryption key and encrypted handshake with the original hardware it was installed in.

[tonerhead]

Re: canon hard drives

One problem with that link. It does not cover TPM encrypted drives. They use a triple level access, password, encryption key and encrypted handshake with the original hardware it was installed in.

Totally agree with Slim. I have cleaned several hdd's in the past with dban, lots of times even a simple windows format gets them usable. The problem with these Canon hdd's are read/write is cancelled due to the TPM. Gparted knows the disk is there, but can't read/write, same with all of the others. They all know the disk is there but can't do anything with it because of the TPM coding in the hdd bios.

[Michael]

Re: canon hard drives

maybe this:

How to remove password from your Hard Disk ? – GreeksCrowd

or this:

ATA Secure Erase - ata WikiWhat is a TPM, and Why Does Windows Need One For Disk Encryption?