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  • BillyCarpenter
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    #241
    Originally posted by Copier Addict

    Okay, just more proof of your dishonest debating technique.
    I ask you a simple yes or no question and you refuse to answer. Instead you spin it until your have completely changed the subject.
    And you think we don't notice.
    I answered honestly. Not my problem that you don't like the answer, Just more TDS from you. You can't even tell us how much be should have paid because you have no facts, LMAO.
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    • Copier Addict
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      #242
      Originally posted by BillyCarpenter

      I answered honestly. Not my problem that you don't like the answer, Just more TDS from you. You can't even tell us how much be should have paid because you have no facts, LMAO.
      You are deliberately conflating business taxes with personal taxes.
      Let me ask so you may understand.
      Do you believe a billionaire should pay only $750 on his/her personal income taxes?
      Yes or no?

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      • Black Cloud
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        #243
        Originally posted by BillyCarpenter

        The USA is $30 trillion is debt. Soon we'll pay more in interest than Social Security and Medicare combined. We either keep cutting or go bankrupt. Those are the facts. What say you?
        Federal SNAP spending totaled $112.8 billion and benefits averaged $211.93 per participant per month.

        Poverty in America carries substantial costs, including lost economic productivity, increased healthcare expenses, and higher crime rates, with estimates suggesting a yearly cost of around $1 trillion, or 5.4% of the US GDP.

        So the classic case of pay a bit now or more later.

        In 2023, the US military spending was approximately $916 billion, which is over 40% of the global military spending, and more than the next nine countries combined.​

        China is #2 at $296 billion and Russia is #3 at $109 billion.
        ​
        It looks to me that instead of starving people to cut the budget that you could ease up a bit on your military spending.

        Right now the USA has enough nukes to destroy the Earth 10 times over. Isn't once enough?​
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        • BillyCarpenter
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          #244
          Originally posted by Copier Addict

          You are deliberately conflating business taxes with personal taxes.
          Let me ask so you may understand.
          Do you believe a billionaire should pay only $750 on his/her personal income taxes?
          Yes or no?
          Unless you can tell me actual dollar amounts, this conversation is pointless. Without numbers, I don't even know what the hell you're talking about.
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          • BillyCarpenter
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            #245
            Originally posted by Black Cloud

            Federal SNAP spending totaled $112.8 billion and benefits averaged $211.93 per participant per month.

            Poverty in America carries substantial costs, including lost economic productivity, increased healthcare expenses, and higher crime rates, with estimates suggesting a yearly cost of around $1 trillion, or 5.4% of the US GDP.

            So the classic case of pay a bit now or more later.

            In 2023, the US military spending was approximately $916 billion, which is over 40% of the global military spending, and more than the next nine countries combined.

            China is #2 at $296 billion and Russia is #3 at $109 billion.
            ​
            It looks to me that instead of starving people to cut the budget that you could ease up a bit on your military spending.

            Right now the USA has enough nukes to destroy the Earth 10 times over. Isn't once enough?​
            That's why its so important for Canada to stop fucking us over and not meeting your NATO obligation. If you do your part maybe we can cut military spending.
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            • Copier Addict
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              #246
              Originally posted by BillyCarpenter

              Unless you can tell me actual dollar amounts, this conversation is pointless. Without numbers, I don't even know what the hell you're talking about.
              Of course you know what I'm talking about. You just refuse to answer because you would have to also admit trumpy is a tax cheat.

              Allow me to answer the question you won't.
              No, a billionaire should not pay only $750 in taxes for a year.

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              • BillyCarpenter
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                #247
                Originally posted by Copier Addict

                Of course you know what I'm talking about. You just refuse to answer because you would have to also admit trumpy is a tax cheat.

                Allow me to answer the question you won't.
                No, a billionaire should not pay only $750 in taxes for a year.
                How do you know that without knowing what the profit was?

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                • Black Cloud
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                  #248
                  Originally posted by BillyCarpenter

                  That's why its so important for Canada to stop fucking us over and not meeting your NATO obligation. If you do your part maybe we can cut military spending.

                  On July 11th, 2024, the Government of Canada announced its commitment to meet NATO's military spending target of 2% of GDP by 2032.

                  Does the USA really need to spend triple the amount China spends? I thought you guys are on a budget?
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                  • Copier Addict
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                    #249
                    Originally posted by BillyCarpenter

                    How do you know that without knowing what the profit was?
                    The answer is still no.

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                    • BillyCarpenter
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                      #250
                      Originally posted by Black Cloud


                      On July 11th, 2024, the Government of Canada announced its commitment to meet NATO's military spending target of 2% of GDP by 2032.

                      Does the USA really need to spend triple the amount China spends? I thought you guys are on a budget?
                      Well, there are other countries that fuck us over besides Canada and you've been fucking us over for quite some time as well as many other countries. I think you lie to us when you call us best friends.
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                      • BillyCarpenter
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                        #251
                        Originally posted by Copier Addict

                        The answer is still no.
                        Are you suggesting a flat billionaire tax regardless of profit and loss?
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                        • Copier Addict
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                          #252
                          Originally posted by BillyCarpenter

                          Are you suggesting a flat billionaire tax regardless of profit and loss?
                          You're still deliberately conflating business and personal.

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                            #253
                            Originally posted by Copier Addict

                            You're still deliberately conflating business and personal.
                            Is that right? From my understanding if a business owner doesn't draw a salary from his business, he owes nothing. Is that correct?
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                            • Copier Addict
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                              #254
                              Originally posted by BillyCarpenter

                              Is that right? From my understanding if a business owner doesn't draw a salary from his business, he owes nothing. Is that correct?
                              More loopholes designed for the benefit of the very wealthy.
                              You didn't even know what tax brackets are, so I doubt you know anything about this either

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                              • BillyCarpenter
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                                #255
                                Originally posted by Copier Addict

                                More loopholes designed for the benefit of the very wealthy.
                                You didn't even know what tax brackets are, so I doubt you know anything about this either

                                Loophole, huh? Are you suggesting that if a business owner draws nothing out of the business that he should be forced to pay a personal income tax? How does that work? Will be be taxed again if he draws money the following year? Makes no sense.
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