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  • SalesServiceGuy
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    Big Oil rakes in billions as prices soar. Lawmakers want them to pay us back


    As crude prices surge, oil companies are raking in money -- enormous profits gained from practically no extra investment.

    ExxonMobil (XOM) made a $23 billion profit in 2021, its largest in seven years. And as oil prices rise, it's expected to make nearly $33 billion this year. BP (BP), meanwhile, earned $12.8 billion in 2021 and is forecast to earn $15.6 billion in 2022.

    This level of enormous earnings growth has driven talk on both sides of the Atlantic about the need for a windfall profit tax on Big Oil. Those taxes could provide direct financial assistance to consumers struggling with high energy costs.

    Both the United States and United Kingdom have imposed windfall profit taxes in the past in with broad political support. But this time around, support has been mostly limited to liberal parties in both nations.

    Prime Minister Boris Johnson has opposed the idea. His finance minister, Rishi Sunak, is expected to lay out the British government's plans to help citizens deal with rising energy costs Wednesday.

    In Washington, Democratic supporters of a windfall profit tax argue it's the only fair way to help people who can't afford to drive or heat their homes.

    "We need to curb profiteering by Big Oil and provide relief to Americans at the gas pump — that starts with ensuring these corporations pay a price when they price gouge," said Sen. Elizabeth Warren, one of the 12 co-sponsors of the measure in the Senate.

    The UK opposition Labour Party is calling for taxes on profits made by North Sea oil and gas companies to be raised for a year to help pay for a variety of financial relief measures. The US bill would tax the profits Big Oil companies make on crude prices above recent historical levels. It would pay hundreds of dollars annually to low- and middle-income taxpayers.

    But that assumes average oil prices of $120 a barrel — and prices surged past that level two weeks ago. Though prices have since fallen back, it highlights the challenge of writing legislation around a volatile commodities market. Brent oil closed Friday at just under $108. Retail gasoline prices have ticked down slightly, though at a much slower pace than oil prices have fallen.

    The US bill taxes the profits big oil companies get on crude prices above recent historical levels. But that assumes average oil prices of $120 a barrel. Prices surged past that level two weeks ago but have since fallen back.

    But the Biden administration has yet to voice any support for the windfall profit tax proposal, and the Senate lacks sufficient votes to pass it, argued Greg Valliere, chief US policy strategist for AGF Investments.

    Trade groups for both the American and British oil industries argue the windfall profit tax proposals would work against calls to increase domestic production in those countries as a way of making up for the loss of Russian crude oil.

    "Lawmakers should focus on policies that increase US supply to help mitigate the situation rather than political grandstanding that does nothing but discourage investment at a time when it's needed the most," said Frank Macchiarola, senior vice president of policy, economics and regulatory affairs for the American Petroleum Institute.

    Deirdre Michie, CEO of Offshore Energies UK, argues that a windfall profit would result in oil companies further cutting their investment in oil production, "just when we most need our own oil and gas supplies," Michie said.

    But oil companies haven't been particularly eager to invest in more US or UK production.

    "Oil and gas companies do not want to drill more," Pavel Molchanov, an analyst at Raymond James, said recently. "They are under pressure from the financial community to pay more dividends, to do more share buybacks instead of the proverbial 'drill baby drill,' which is the way they would have done things 10 years ago. Corporate strategy has fundamentally changed."


    Still, Molchanov said proposals for a windfall profit tax are "political posturing, plain and simple, at a time when consumers are unhappy about high fuel prices," adding that "micromanaging tax rates based on short-term price swings, whether up or down, is counterproductive." he argued.

    Putin's money


    The sprawling billion-dollar palace that sits on a hilltop overlooking the Black Sea is seen by some Kremlin critics as the ultimate emblem of Russian President Vladimir Putin's legacy of corruption.

    Dubbed "Putin's Palace," the 190,000 square-foot mega-mansion was purportedly built for his personal use with funds from billionaire oligarchs, whom he allegedly allowed to flourish in Russia's notoriously corrupt economy so long as they shared the wealth -- with him.

    The property has its own amphitheater, underground hockey rink and private seaport, according to a documentary produced by jailed Russian opposition leader Alexey Navalny's anti-corruption group. There is a no-fly zone in the skies above and a no-boating zone in the surrounding waters.

    The magnificent fortress stands in stark contrast to the tiny 800-square-foot apartment Putin claims in his official 2020 financial disclosure.

    Yet, despite the opulence of the hilltop retreat, "I would be very surprised if Putin ever sets foot in there again," Nate Sibley, an expert on Russian corruption who advises members of Congress.

    Sibley said the palace symbolizes what he sees as a bygone era of Putin pursuing, through the wealth of oligarchs, a luxurious lifestyle that he could never afford on his government salary.

    While Putin is believed to have amassed a hidden fortune by such means earlier in his career, Sibley said, he has since become less reliant on his wealthy benefactors over the years and has surrounded himself instead with government and military loyalists who share his hardline nationalist views.

    That shift may make it more difficult to make Putin personally feel the sting of economic sanctions the US and its European allies have imposed to punish him for invading Ukraine.

    Putin has positioned himself, as Sibley put it, "above the fray."


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    • BillyCarpenter
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      Blame the oil companies? Is that the premise that we're working with?

      This sounds like it came from the same person in the DNC that came up with "inflation only affects rich folk."
      Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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      • bsm2
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        Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
        Blame the oil companies? Is that the premise that we're working with?

        This sounds like it came from the same person in the DNC that came up with "inflation only affects rich folk."
        Guess who sets the price and production of oil

        Guess you Failed class Again
        Not a surprise

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        • slimslob
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          Originally posted by bsm2
          Guess who sets the price and production of oil

          Guess you Failed class Again
          Not a surprise
          Sorry but it is speculators on the commodities market, not the oil companies. Another influence is OPEC. OPEC is an association of countries where ownership and oil production is by the their governments. They regulate prices by controlling the world supply.

          No surprise, No surprise, No surprise, you are the one that failed, again, as usual.

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          • bsm2
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            Originally posted by slimslob
            Sorry but it is speculators on the commodities market, not the oil companies. Another influence is OPEC. OPEC is an association of countries where ownership and oil production is by the their governments. They regulate prices by controlling the world supply.

            No surprise, No surprise, No surprise, you are the one that failed, again, as usual.
            Thanks for confirming Billys an idiot
            I know he's from Mississippi no surprise

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            • BillyCarpenter
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              The 3 blind idiots are twisting themselves into a pretzel trying to deflect all criticism away from Biden. Even I didn't imagine things could be this bad under Biden. It's the worst I've ever seen.
              Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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              • slimslob
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                Yeah go ahead and eat beans. All it will do is increase the demand for beans thereby increasing the demand and resulting higher prices, ergo more inflation. It will however also increase the production of an unwanted worthless gas, farts. remember, beans beans the musical fruit, the more you eat the more you toot.

                Take the bus, or subway train and get mugged.

                And whoever the animal hater is who thought up skip getting chemo for you sick dog needs to be lined up against a brick wall and shot.

                Bloomberg inflation advice says eat beans, take bus, skip chemo for dogs - TheBlaze

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                • bsm2
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                  Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                  The 3 blind idiots are twisting themselves into a pretzel trying to deflect all criticism away from Biden. Even I didn't imagine things could be this bad under Biden. It's the worst I've ever seen.
                  Oh Boy another Doom and Gloom post
                  Sorry your going out of Business
                  Go outside and enjoy the great weather

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                  • BillyCarpenter
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                    Originally posted by bsm2
                    Oh Boy another Doom and Gloom post
                    Go outside and enjoy the great weather

                    Biden campaigned on a promise to “wage war” on domestic energy production, signed an executive order to eliminate fossil fuel subsidies and suspended or halted oil and gas leases on federal lands.
                    Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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                    • bsm2
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                      Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                      Biden campaigned on a promise to “wage war” on domestic energy production, signed an executive order to eliminate fossil fuel subsidies and suspended or halted oil and gas leases on federal lands.
                      There you go again Mr Doom And Gloom making shit up

                      I thought you were signing up to fight in Ukraine now that your business is failing?

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                      • Phil B.
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                        Originally posted by bsm2
                        Thanks for confirming Billys an idiot
                        I know he's from Mississippi no surprise
                        And you're the idiot in FL.
                        Now can you start with some retorts that have meaning/make sense?

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                        • copiertec
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                          I have a question about the price of gas which is related to the cost of crude oil. If you look back at 2008 the cost of a barrel of crude oil was $126.00 and the cost of a gallon of gas was around $4.11 per gallon. So currently the cost of a barrel of crude oil is currently $105.00... while a gallon of gas in Ca is around $6.00+ a gallon? Why is the cost of gas so much when the cost of a barrel of crude oil is cheaper?

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                          • slimslob
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                            Originally posted by copiertec
                            I have a question about the price of gas which is related to the cost of crude oil. If you look back at 2008 the cost of a barrel of crude oil was $126.00 and the cost of a gallon of gas was around $4.11 per gallon. So currently the cost of a barrel of crude oil is currently $105.00... while a gallon of gas in Ca is around $6.00+ a gallon? Why is the cost of gas so much when the cost of a barrel of crude oil is cheaper?
                            Higher taxes and regulations on refining and delivery in many blue states Like California. Additional taxes added by many county and city governments to pay for road improvement projects. Requirements for much costlier formulations that are supposed to reduce emissions but when you throw in the emissions caused by producing the additives you end up causing more.

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                            • bsm2
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                              Originally posted by copiertec
                              I have a question about the price of gas which is related to the cost of crude oil. If you look back at 2008 the cost of a barrel of crude oil was $126.00 and the cost of a gallon of gas was around $4.11 per gallon. So currently the cost of a barrel of crude oil is currently $105.00... while a gallon of gas in Ca is around $6.00+ a gallon? Why is the cost of gas so much when the cost of a barrel of crude oil is cheaper?
                              Is anything the same price from 2008?

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                              • Drivee
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                                They change price over night when oil goes up to 130 per barrel but when price drop to 105 they change price for 0.06 USD! Only 0.06!

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