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  • Phil B.
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    #556
    Re: $5.00 per gallon gas

    Originally posted by bsm2
    Facts Matter to intelligent people
    Oh so that's why you avoid the facts/truth.
    Got it.

    Sent from my SM-G990U using Tapatalk

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    • bsm2
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      Mexican President Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador formally opened a major new oil refinery on Friday, a signature project for the leftist leader who argues it will help the country cut a longstanding dependence on foreign gasoline and diesel supplies.

      Reporting by Adriana Barrera; Writing by Isabel Woodford and David Alire Garcia; Editing by Anthony Esposito, Daniel Wallis, Marguerita Choy and David Gregorio

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      • slimslob
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        #558
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        California crews use 4,500 gallons of water to put out Tesla fire.

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        • Copier Addict
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          #559
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          You amigos must be really torn. On one hand Musk us your lastest idol but you hate electric cars. How on earth do you reconcile this?

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          • slimslob
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            #560
            Re: $5.00 per gallon gas

            The following is copied from a Facebook post that had no link associated other than to a Facebook page.

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            • bsm2
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              #561
              Re: $5.00 per gallon gas

              Originally posted by slimslob
              The following is copied from a Facebook post that had no link associated other than to a Facebook page.
              An interesting take on Electric Cars from a conversation:

              “As an engineer I love electric vehicle technology However, I have been troubled by the fact that the electrical energy to keep the batteries charged has to come from the grid, and that means more power generation and a huge increase in the distribution infrastructure. Whether generated from coal, gas, oil, wind or sun, installed generation capacity is limited.

              IF ELECTRIC CARS DO NOT USE GASOLINE, THEY WILL NOT BE PAYING A GASOLINE TAX ON EVERY GALLON SOLD FOR AUTOMOBILES, WHICH WAS ENACTED TO MAINTAIN OUR ROADS AND BRIDGES. THEY WILL USE THE ROADS, BUT WILL NOT PAY FOR THEIR MAINTENANCE!

              In case you were thinking of buying hybrid or an electric car...

              Ever since the advent of electric cars, the REAL cost per mile of those things has never been discussed. All you ever heard was the mpg in terms of gasoline, with nary a mention of the cost of electricity to run it.
              Electricity has to be one of the least efficient ways to power things, yet they're being shoved down our throats. Glad somebody finally put engineering and math to paper.
              If you really intend to adopt electric vehicles, you will face certain realities. For example, a home charging system for a Tesla requires 75 amp service. The average house is equipped with 100 amp service. On a small street (approximately 25 homes), the electrical infrastructure would be unable to carry more than three houses with a single Tesla each. For even half the homes to have electric vehicles, the system would be wildly over-loaded.

              This is the elephant in the room with electric vehicles. Our residential infrastructure cannot bear the load. So, as our genius elected officials promote this nonsense, not only are we being urged to buy these things and replace our reliable, cheap generating systems with expensive new windmills and solar cells, but we will also have to renovate our entire delivery system! This later "investment" will not be revealed until we're so far down this dead end road that it will be presented with an 'OOPS...!' and a shrug.

              If you want to argue with a green person over cars that are eco-friendly, just read the following. Note: If you ARE a green person, read it anyway. It's enlightening.

              Eric test drove the Chevy Volt at the invitation of General Motors and he writes, "For four days in a row, the fully charged battery lasted only 25 miles before the Volt switched to the reserve gasoline engine." Eric calculated the car got 30 mpg including the 25 miles it ran on the battery. So, the range including the 9-gallon gas tank and the 16 kwh battery is approximately 270 miles.
              It will take you 4.5 hours to drive 270 miles at 60 mph. Then add 10 hours to charge the battery and you have a total trip time of 14.5 hours. In a typical road trip your average speed (including charging time) would be 20 mph.

              According to General Motors, the Volt battery holds 16 kwh of electricity. It takes a full 10 hours to charge a drained battery. The cost for the electricity to charge the Volt is never mentioned, so I looked up what I pay for electricity.

              I pay approximately (it varies with amount used and the seasons) $1.16 per kwh. 16 kwh x $1.16 per kwh = $18.56 to charge the battery. $18.56 per charge divided by 25 miles = $0.74 per mile to operate the Volt using the battery. Compare this to a similar size car with a gasoline engine that gets only 32 mpg. $3.19 per gallon divided by 32 Mpg = $0.10 per mile.

              The gasoline powered car costs about $25,000 while the Volt costs $46,000 plus. So the Canadian Government wants loyal Canadians not to do the math, but simply pay twice as much for a car, that costs more than seven times as much to run, and takes three times longer to drive across the country.

              WAKE UP NORTH AMERICA!!!!!!!







              Slimjim time to buy a horse

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              • Copier Addict
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                #562
                Re: $5.00 per gallon gas

                Originally posted by slimslob
                The following is copied from a Facebook post that had no link associated other than to a Facebook page.

                I wouldn't buy a Chevy volt either.
                There are other options Slimjim.

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                • bsm2
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                  #563
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                  Fun Fact
                  After an eight-year run that earned it the title of best-selling electric car in the United States, in 2019 GM retired the Chevy Volt altogether to make way for its would-be successor, the more compact but fully electric Chevy Bolt, which can squeeze out an impressive 238 miles on a single charge.

                  But you can buy a used one maybe he can buy a Yugo?

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                  • bsm2
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                    #564
                    Re: $5.00 per gallon gas

                    Tesla is no longer the world's largest EV producer

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                    Chinese automaker BYD, which is backed by Warren Buffett, has surpassed Tesla as the world's leading electric vehicle seller.

                    Driving the news: BYD sold 638,157 electric or plug-in hybrid passenger vehicles in the first six months of 2022, according to company filings published on July 3.

                    The figure represents a nearly 325% year-on-year increase from the same period last year.
                    In June alone, BYD sold 133,762 electric or plug-in hybrid passenger vehicles.
                    In the first two quarters of 2022, BYD sold 323,519 battery electric vehicles and 314,638 plug-in hybrids.

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                    • SalesServiceGuy
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                      #565
                      Re: $5.00 per gallon gas

                      Originally posted by copier addict
                      I wouldn't buy a Chevy volt either.
                      There are other options Slimjim.
                      ... Facebook posts are not vetted by anyone for accuracy. It is merely one person's opinion.

                      North Americans continue to buy electric cars as fast as they can be manufactured especially during this prolonged period of high gas prices.

                      There are talks in Canada and the USA to charges electric vehicles a special road tax when there are enough EVs on the highway to make a difference.

                      Oil prices crashed today under $100.00 per barrel on recession worries but supply remains scarce for the foreseeable future.

                      It is unlikely under the next five US Presidents that gas prices will go much lower unless there is a long global recession.

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                      • bsm2
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                        Oil demand forecast slashed by a third at Citi with more cuts likely as there's no evidence of a summer driving surge

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                        • Hansen88
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                          #567
                          Re: $5.00 per gallon gas

                          Originally posted by copier addict
                          You amigos must be really torn. On one hand Musk us your lastest idol but you hate electric cars. How on earth do you reconcile this?
                          I dont want to buy a electric car,but at least Musks cars are the most American made car in the country. I like him for all the other good companies he has created and when he sets out to do something,he gets it done.

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                          • Copier Addict
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                            Re: $5.00 per gallon gas

                            Originally posted by Hansen88
                            I dont want to buy a electric car,but at least Musks cars are the most American made car in the country. I like him for all the other good companies he has created and when he sets out to do something,he gets it done.

                            I'm waiting for when hydrogen becomes the dominant fuel for vehicles. It's way cleaner and very abundant.
                            In my opinion electric vehicles are simply a transitional technology.

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                            • Hansen88
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                              #569
                              Re: $5.00 per gallon gas

                              Originally posted by copier addict
                              I'm waiting for when hydrogen becomes the dominant fuel for vehicles. It's way cleaner and very abundant.
                              In my opinion electric vehicles are simply a transitional technology.
                              I agree with you on this. I think hydrogen is good.

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                              • slimslob
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                                Originally posted by copier addict
                                I'm waiting for when hydrogen becomes the dominant fuel for vehicles. It's way cleaner and very abundant.
                                In my opinion electric vehicles are simply a transitional technology.
                                And extremely dangerous to store. Remember the Hindenburg.

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