A living wage

[BillyCarpenter]

Re: A living wage

I think some of us are talking about 2 different things.



A minimum wage is the lowest amount a worker can be paid hourly determined by law. Paying an individual below the minimum wage is illegal. A living wage is the amount an individual or family would need to make to avoid living in poverty. This amount is usually higher than the minimum wage and is not mandated by law.

A few years back Democrats tried to cancel/shame/boycott companies like McDonalds and Walmart because they didn't pay a living wage.

Now, shortly after, democrats did propose raising the minimum wage to to $15 per hour. For some workers that would be good because it would potentially allow them to live better. For others it would mean loss of job and perhaps homelessness.

[bsm2]

Re: A living wage

I think some of us are talking about 2 different things.



A minimum wage is the lowest amount a worker can be paid hourly determined by law. Paying an individual below the minimum wage is illegal. A living wage is the amount an individual or family would need to make to avoid living in poverty. This amount is usually higher than the minimum wage and is not mandated by law.

A few years back Democrats tried to cancel/shame/boycott companies like McDonalds and Walmart because they didn't pay a living wage.

Now, shortly after, democrats did propose raising the minimum wage to to $15 per hour. For some workers that would be good because it would potentially allow them to live better. For others it would mean loss of job and perhaps homelessness.

Great news Billy boy Both companies along with others have raised the min wage as well as some states.

Florida through a Constitutional amendment by the voters because the Republicans would not raise the state min is on tract by 2025 to go 15.00 per hour

Unfortunately your state of Mississippi is still at 7.25 per hour will probably never increase.

The Republicans in the Senate still hold millions of Americans hostage all because they want to keep the poor pooper. But have no problem giving Billionaires tax breaks

GUESS WHAT The sky not falling

Another spanking

[Gift]

Re: A living wage

I think some of us are talking about 2 different things.



A minimum wage is the lowest amount a worker can be paid hourly determined by law. Paying an individual below the minimum wage is illegal. A living wage is the amount an individual or family would need to make to avoid living in poverty. This amount is usually higher than the minimum wage and is not mandated by law.

A few years back Democrats tried to cancel/shame/boycott companies like McDonalds and Walmart because they didn't pay a living wage.

Now, shortly after, democrats did propose raising the minimum wage to to $15 per hour. For some workers that would be good because it would potentially allow them to live better. For others it would mean loss of job and perhaps homelessness.

Yes it's different but in my opinion both variables should be considered to end up with something that's fair to the people. Probably both numbers "7,5$ vs 15$" are "debateable" (as usual). I also recall that there was a big discussion about job losses in my country and I was highliy sceptical but truth is that didn't happen in numbers that justifies to decline a minimum wage at all, even if I'm not entirely happy with the implementation, especially because of the "regional" differences I was talking about.

[BillyCarpenter]

Re: A living wage

Yes it's different but in my opinion both variables should be considered to end up with something that's fair to the people. Probably both numbers "7,5$ vs 15$" are "debateable" (as usual). I also recall that there was a big discussion about job losses in my country and I was highliy sceptical but truth is that didn't happen in numbers that justifies to decline a minimum wage at all, even if I'm not entirely happy with the implementation, especially because of the "regional" differences I was talking about.

I don't disagree. I'm a free market guy. I believe competition for workers between companies should determine how much a worker is paid. But I also understand that some business owners would take advantage if a minimum wage wasn't set by the federal government. But that doesn't mean that every job under the sun should pay a living wage. A living wage includes: food, housing, utilities, health insurance and other basic needs. And that's for a family, not individual.

If a living wage were ever fully mandated in the USA, a lot of folks would be out on the street looking for a new job.

And like you said, $15 per hour in New York City isn't a lot of money but here in Mississippi it is. The Federal government doesn't know better than the states what's best.

[bsm2]

Re: A living wage

There you go 15.00 in Mississippi is too much money
Republicans don't want to help you only the Billionaires

Ridiculous

[BillyCarpenter]

Re: A living wage

There you go 15.00 in Mississippi is too much money
Republicans don't want to help you only the Billionaires

Ridiculous

Copier technicians make $38,796 per year on average, or $18.65 per hour. And you want to pay a burger flipper $15? Ookie, dokie.

[bsm2]

Re: A living wage

Copier technicians make $38,796 per year on average, or $18.65 per hour. And you want to pay a burger flipper $15? Ookie, dokie.

There you go perfect example

Republicans want to keep the poor in the poor House

[BillyCarpenter]

Re: A living wage

There you go perfect example

Republicans want to keep the poor in the poor House

I've had a full time job since about 20. For some odd reason, I never needed the federal government to make a living wage. I simply went out in the workforce and figured it out. Of course, I went and got a degree in Industrial Electronics. That was fine for a while but I still wasn't making the kind of money that I wanted. And that's when I learned how to sell. That was a game changer. You should try it.

[bsm2]

Re: A living wage

I've had a full time job since about 20. For some odd reason, I never needed the federal government to make a living wage. I simply went out in the workforce and figured it out. Of course, I went and got a degree in Industrial Electronics. That was fine for a while but I still wasn't making the kind of money that I wanted. And that's when I learned how to sell. That was a game changer. You should try it.

Yep unfortunately the Federal government is entirely responsible. Did you have workman's compensation insurance at your job Yep.
Did you have vacation and sick days Yep
Did you have health insurance Yep
Did you have an IRA or retirement Yep

What do you want me to sell? Office equipment service contracts. Ha

Most copier technicians or service engineers make the sale on new equipment as customers upgrade there equipment. You should try it.

[BillyCarpenter]

Re: A living wage

Most copier technicians or service engineers make the sale on new equipment as customers upgrade there equipment. You should try it.

You're full of crap. Most techs are paid very little, if anything, when a customer upgrades their existing equipment and that's why a good sales person makes triple what a tech gets paid.

[bsm2]

Re: A living wage

You're full of crap. Most techs are paid very little, if anything, when a customer upgrades their existing equipment and that's why a good sales person makes triple what a tech gets paid.

That's too bad
Apparently working in Mississippi sucks

[BillyCarpenter]

Re: A living wage

That's too bad
Apparently working in Mississippi sucks

Why did you tell that lie? What was the point?

[bsm2]

Re: A living wage

Why did you tell that lie? What was the point?

Apparently you think or maybe not think everything is a lie

That explains your posts

[Gift]

Re: A living wage

I don't disagree. I'm a free market guy. I believe competition for workers between companies should determine how much a worker is paid. But I also understand that some business owners would take advantage if a minimum wage wasn't set by the federal government. But that doesn't mean that every job under the sun should pay a living wage. A living wage includes: food, housing, utilities, health insurance and other basic needs. And that's for a family, not individual.

If a living wage were ever fully mandated in the USA, a lot of folks would be out on the street looking for a new job.

And like you said, $15 per hour in New York City isn't a lot of money but here in Mississippi it is. The Federal government doesn't know better than the states what's best.

[slimslob]

Re: A living wage

There you go perfect example

Republicans want to keep the poor in the poor House

You have the wrong party there. It is the Democrat Party with their taxes who are keeping the poor where they are. Every time they raise taxes on the "rich" the cost of living goes up for the poor.