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  • Rusty.Harris
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    #1

    Maybe faxing will disappear! FINALLY

    Now if we can just get the FCC to abandon fax!

    Goodbye fax machines: Ofcom drops obligation for providers - Neowin
  • blackcat4866
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    Re: Maybe faxing will disappear! FINALLY

    I think the state and local governments are the last holdouts, and they have the delusion that somehow it's more secure than an email attachment.

    Personally I will be glad to see them go, with all the VOIP issues. It's seems like they could have made design changes to better accommodate VOIP lines 10 years ago.
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    • slimslob
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      #3
      Re: Maybe faxing will disappear! FINALLY

      Originally posted by Rusty.Harris
      Now if we can just get the FCC to abandon fax!

      Goodbye fax machines: Ofcom drops obligation for providers - Neowin
      FYI he Office of Communications, commonly known as Ofcom, is the government-approved regulatory and competition authority for the broadcasting, telecommunication and postal industries of the United Kingdom.
      Not applicable in the US.

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      • davidmtupper
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        Re: Maybe faxing will disappear! FINALLY

        Originally posted by blackcat4866
        I think the state and local governments are the last holdouts, and they have the delusion that somehow it's more secure than an email attachment.

        Personally I will be glad to see them go, with all the VOIP issues. It's seems like they could have made design changes to better accommodate VOIP lines 10 years ago.
        Nope, it's required by law for some medical and legal applications. Those laws need to be reviewed and revised to catch up with technology.

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        • driving lots of miles
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          Re: Maybe faxing will disappear! FINALLY

          Originally posted by davidmtupper
          Nope, it's required by law for some medical and legal applications. Those laws need to be reviewed and revised to catch up with technology.
          My daughter works in a large medical office and it is easier to have all faxes to come to one point and printed for everyone to have access. She says that an E-mail account with everyone having access, is to easy to have something deleted accidently with no paper trail.

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          • slimslob
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            Re: Maybe faxing will disappear! FINALLY

            Originally posted by davidmtupper
            Nope, it's required by law for some medical and legal applications. Those laws need to be reviewed and revised to catch up with technology.
            It was originally required because they felt that a signature on a faxed document could nit be altered. That was back in the days of analog Group 1, G1, fax that took 4 or 6 minutes to send an a LT size document such as a Quip 1200. They had an audio coupler box that you set a telephone handset down in. They were later replaced by Group 2, G2, at 2 or 3 minutes. Transmission speed was based on scan rate so with the faster speed you also got lower image quality. Even at the slower speed you could still see the scan lines breaks.

            That all went out the window with digital Groups 3&4. Most medical now use email for sending prescriptions and transferring patient information between offices. As for the legal field I have had customers who were bankruptcy lawyers and they have had to send client documents to the Bankruptcy courts be secure email, direct connection to the regional courts office, at 300 dpi.

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            • KenB
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              Re: Maybe faxing will disappear! FINALLY

              Definitely NOT going away in the US of A anytime soon.

              Those vertical markets are far too dependent on it.

              Internet faxing is rapidly taking over PSTN though, the future of fax will definitely morph somewhat.
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              • slimslob
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                Re: Maybe faxing will disappear! FINALLY

                Originally posted by driving lots of miles
                My daughter works in a large medical office and it is easier to have all faxes to come to one point and printed for everyone to have access. She says that an E-mail account with everyone having access, is to easy to have something deleted accidently with no paper trail.
                Why not just setup an email group which will automatically distribute it to every email address that is a member of the group. I have seen far too many paper jams when receiving faxes where the fax is lost. With email there is always an electronic trail of all the email servers involved. In the US email providers are required by law to retain backups of every email that passes through their servers for at least 3 years, it may be as much as 10 years.

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                • KenB
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                  “I think you should treat good friends like a fine wine. That’s why I keep mine locked up in the basement.” - Tim Hawkins

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                  • KenB
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                    Re: Maybe faxing will disappear! FINALLY

                    Originally posted by driving lots of miles
                    My daughter works in a large medical office and it is easier to have all faxes to come to one point and printed for everyone to have access. She says that an E-mail account with everyone having access, is to easy to have something deleted accidently with no paper trail.
                    “I think you should treat good friends like a fine wine. That’s why I keep mine locked up in the basement.” - Tim Hawkins

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                    • Rusty.Harris
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                      Re: Maybe faxing will disappear! FINALLY

                      Originally posted by slimslob
                      FYI he Office of Communications, commonly known as Ofcom, is the government-approved regulatory and competition authority for the broadcasting, telecommunication and postal industries of the United Kingdom.
                      Not applicable in the US.

                      YES, I realize that...it was assumed people would know that.

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                      • slimslob
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                        Re: Maybe faxing will disappear! FINALLY

                        Sounds like that hospital needs a drastic update to their their HIS, Hospital Information System, software. Most of the major hospital here in Bakersfield have all their enrolled doctors and affiliated labs and other services linked into their system. I can go to any of the affiliated labs for blood draw and my doctor will have the results by the next morning. If I go to the main lab, he will have them within 2 to 3 hours, depending on how long the test actually takes to process. They even have a patient portal where I can also check what the results are and see my account with any and all insurance payments and if there is a balance due, make the payment.

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                        • KenB
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                          Re: Maybe faxing will disappear! FINALLY

                          Originally posted by slimslob
                          Sounds like that hospital needs a drastic update to their their HIS, Hospital Information System, software. Most of the major hospital here in Bakersfield have all their enrolled doctors and affiliated labs and other services linked into their system. I can go to any of the affiliated labs for blood draw and my doctor will have the results by the next morning. If I go to the main lab, he will have them within 2 to 3 hours, depending on how long the test actually takes to process. They even have a patient portal where I can also check what the results are and see my account with any and all insurance payments and if there is a balance due, make the payment.
                          “I think you should treat good friends like a fine wine. That’s why I keep mine locked up in the basement.” - Tim Hawkins

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