Canada is disgusting

[BillyCarpenter]

It's you trying to pretend that tariffs aren't a tax on the US population. If you choose to tax something you need, it doesn't affect us as much as you hope. Yes, it will affect us a little at the beginning, but we can sell our products to anyone. All it will take is opening up other markets. That will take some time, but it can be done.

Yeah, you're pretending that a tariff from the largest economy in the world is no big deal.

[Copier Addict]

Yeah, you're pretending that a tariff from the largest economy in the world is no big deal.

I'm not pretending anything. The tariff is paid by you! If you need the product, it simply costs you more to import it.

[SalesServiceGuy]

Putting a hurting on your economy up there does.

.... so what is really happening, at an accerlating pace, is global trade diversification away from the USA. Canada is rapidly becoming a trading super power at the center of many trade alliances that do not include the USA.

Because of Trump's tariffs, the USA is being sidelined on billions of dollars of global economic activity.

Meanwhile, there are multiple estimates that the average US consumer household will pay $1,500.00 to $2,500.00 more this year for the goods it purchases entitely because of Trump's taxes on consumers aka tariffs.

[SalesServiceGuy]

Isn't there evidence that offshore windfarms are causing the deaths of large sea creatures? I've heard the deaths of whales go up exponentially around them.

https://nypost.com/2023/08/26/new-documentary-proves-that-offshore-windfarms-kill-whales

Science isn't conclusive (as usual nowadays) but a group separate from any bias of energy companies is claiming it is causing deaths.

I think nuclear including the new mini plants and liquid salt tech is the future. The new tech eliminates the already overblown concerns of the previous generation technology.

... whales are not as dumb as you think.

The deal is inked, the planning to create North America's largest offshore wind farm is going forward.

[SalesServiceGuy]

Yeah, you're pretending that a tariff from the largest economy in the world is no big deal.

.... the reality is approx 95% of the trade between Canada and the US is protected by the USMCA and will not see increased costs.

Approx 5% of Candian exports to the USA will be effected by the new US tariffs. This trade loss will likely be picked up other countries.

Three key commodities will be taxed at a higher rate. Energy, Steel & Aluminum. This only hurts American consumers who pay the higher taxes. America simply cannot produce enough of these commodities domesticaly to meet it's demands.

[BillyCarpenter]

I'm not pretending anything. The tariff is paid by you! If you need the product, it simply costs you more to import it.

So, Canada doesn't want a deal because it doesn't affect them? Is that the lie you're going with?

[Copier Addict]

So, Canada doesn't want a deal because it doesn't affect them? Is that the lie you're going with?

What? You may want to reread that. You're getting all twisted up.

Carney will make a deal if it's in Canada's best interest. Like I said, he knows trumpty dumpty is stupid. He has actually talked to him.

[nullskull]

Oh please. All of Canada is completely repulsed by trumpty dumpty. The Albertans have mastered the art of being victimised. I'm fact, they've taken it to an entire new level.
You could give them exactly what they want, and they would still whine about it. I'm not talking about all Albertans, but there are a vocal minority who make a point of being unhappy

Stop saying you speak for all Canadians bro. True, most Canadians got patriotic for once with Trumps signature big talk. But that doesn't make them libs. For those wondering the chunks of red and orange up top have basically nobody living there. The largest population center is in the southern Ontario area pretty much. We have no electoral college so geography based lack of representation is quite an issue. The entire western side of Canada could vote almost completely one way and it means nothing if Ontario wants it's way.
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A large portion of Albertans are resentful that their own progress and wealth is limited to prop up Quebec and whatever else. Saying they wouldn't be happy with getting what they want is silly. If they are given a better deal and they still complain then sure. The official Alberta gov is pushing for a better deal with Ottawa while others want a separate state. That's typical for anything. Do you hold that same view for the Quebec separatists?

[SalesServiceGuy]

They elected Carney because he would supposedly get tough with Trump and get him to back down. Wrong. Just another chump. Trump means business and really dislikes Canada.

.... Canada is prepared to wait for the right trade deal to be signed. It will not be bullied by Trump. In the meantime Canada's non tariff trade with the rest of the world has grown exponentially in recent months up by 38%.

[BillyCarpenter]

What? You may want to reread that. You're getting all twisted up.

Carney will make a deal if it's in Canada's best interest. Like I said, he knows trumpty dumpty is stupid. He has actually talked to him.

Tell us how the tarrif will hurt Canada if a deal isn't made? Will it hurt your auto industry?

[SalesServiceGuy]

So, Canada doesn't want a deal because it doesn't affect them? Is that the lie you're going with?

No, that is you twisting the truth. Canada is the USA's 2nd largest trading partner and both countries need a no tariff trade agreement.

[BillyCarpenter]

No, that is you twisting the truth. Canada is the USA's 2nd largest trading partner and both countries need a no tariff trade agreement.

Tell us how the tarrif will hurt Canada if a deal isn't made? Will it hurt your auto industry?

[SalesServiceGuy]

Stop saying you speak for all Canadians bro. True, most Canadians got patriotic for once with Trumps signature big talk. But that doesn't make them libs. For those wondering the chunks of red and orange up top have basically nobody living there. The largest population center is in the southern Ontario area pretty much. We have no electoral college so geography based lack of representation is quite an issue. The entire western side of Canada could vote almost completely one way and it means nothing if Ontario wants it's way.
image_2025-08-01_091839714.png
A large portion of Albertans are resentful that their own progress and wealth is limited to prop up Quebec and whatever else. Saying they wouldn't be happy with getting what they want is silly. If they are given a better deal and they still complain then sure. The official Alberta gov is pushing for a better deal with Ottawa while others want a separate state. That's typical for anything. Do you hold that same view for the Quebec separatists?

.... Quebec seperatists lost the last election. The point you are trying to make is moot for the next four years.

Quebec-ers are united in their distrust of Trump and are voting with their wallets not to buy American nor visit the USA as tourists.

[Copier Addict]

Tell us how the tarrif will hurt Canada if a deal isn't made? Will it hurt your auto industry?

Well, in case you were unaware, our auto industry is your auto industry. Didn't you hear that Ford has downgraded their profit outlook because of the tariffs.

[BillyCarpenter]

Well, in case you were unaware, out auto industry is your auto industry. Didn't you hear that Ford has downgraded their profit outlook because of the tariffs.

copier addict can't admit the tariffs will hurt Canada. Even SSG ran for the hills over that question.