Is it just me or does it bother anyone else? What i seem to notice is that new techs show up and tend to respond to every single post on their first visit. Now this is not what really bothers me, what really bothers me is that they then contradict and put down the posts of other long time and well respected members WTFIT? I know I was new once too and maybe I did the same thing ( I don't think so ) but being new I probably didn't know better. Anyway I just wanted to vent rather than taking it out on the new member.
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New techs in the forum
Most of it is not what they are suggesting but how they are saying it. If they said:
"You could also check...",
"Sometimes it's...",
or "I've seen...happen a lot of times when I've had this problem"
It works better than:
"What... said is completely wrong,..." or
"...doesn't know what they're talking about"
My 2 cents to the new posters:
No tech knows everything or has seen everything. I've fixed problems 30 year techs couldn't figure out and I've had wet behind the ears students, who didn't even know how to use a screwdriver, point out a mistake I was making. What makes you so sure that you have ALL the answers? All you can do is speak from your own experience. Don't discredit others, but have respect for one another. We're posting to help other people, not to be the be all end all, self proclaimed guru of the forum world. This isn't a competition, and respect is earned. Discrediting someone else won't get you respect, either.Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways - Coke in one hand - chocolate in the other - body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming "WOO-HOO, what a ride!".Comment
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You tell 'em, prntrfxr. =^..^=If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.
blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=Comment
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Amen..... Have you also noticed that the offending posts are on threads that have been dead for a while? I don't mind anyones 2 cents when I am trying to resolve a problem, but on an old thread? I agree with prntrfxr, you can add "Mayby you can try -" or "I have experienced this" not bash a previous answer "FROM SEVERAL MONTHS AGO"..... Inhale.... Exhale... OK I'm fine now.My mission here on Earth is to help all you Dum-Dums!Comment
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Well, I certainly hope I am not offending anyone. And too bad if I am....
Kidding....really....
But in all honesty, I would hope ya guys put me in my place if I ask for it. I'll often try to be impartial, and perhaps at times I might be condescending, but for the most part, I agree, we are all here to help one another. I may be new here, but I've been doing this a while so I feel compelled to share what I know."Many years ago I chased a woman for almost two years, only to discover that her tastes were exactly like mine: we both were crazy about girls."
---Groucho Marx
Please do not PM me for questions related to Konica Minolta hardware.
I will not answer requests or questions there.
Please ask in the KM forum for the benefit of others to see the question and give their input.
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It is just about respect. People can post their ideas without saying anything about anybody else, and let the person asking the question decide what is good info. I think if you are going to post to a long thread, you should read all of the post so you are not repeating info that has already been given.The greatest enemy of knowledge isn't ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge. Stephen HawkingComment
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Yes, I believe yer right...
I blame fatigue....heh"Many years ago I chased a woman for almost two years, only to discover that her tastes were exactly like mine: we both were crazy about girls."
---Groucho Marx
Please do not PM me for questions related to Konica Minolta hardware.
I will not answer requests or questions there.
Please ask in the KM forum for the benefit of others to see the question and give their input.
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Sometimes the crazy, stupid, oddball answer is correct, so I like getting as many opinions as possible. I can't tell you how many times ALL the techs I work with spotted a problem that somebody else missed - at that point we're usually so bumfuzzled we don't mind feeling a bit dense as long as the problem gets fixed.
The issue is how its worded on the forum. Nobody here has mastered the copy universe (not even me) so we all (including me
) need to remember that when posting
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mjarbar
It is just about respect. People can post their ideas without saying anything about anybody else, and let the person asking the question decide what is good info. I think if you are going to post to a long thread, you should read all of the post so you are not repeating info that has already been given.Comment
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This is so true - many times I have seen a thread that I thought 'I know that' only to see that someone else has already answered with the same thing. Like others I also don't understand the need to reply to a thread that is months old unless it is in the rants 'n' raves and is pertinant to the thread!?!It's 106 miles to Chicago. We've got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark and we're wearing sunglasses.
Hit it.Comment
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mjarbar
Yep, that indicates sheer laziness in searching for what may already be on the forums and may answer their question, after all if you want to say "Hi I'm new here..." just say it.Comment
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