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  • treed889
    Technician
    • Mar 2010
    • 24

    #1

    [WTF] White Out

    So I'm still a newbie for the most part (less than 5 months on the job) workin on copiers but one thing I have never figured out is why does white out leave dark streaks when you use the doc feeder? The light compares the image you scan to a white background judging the color so when it sees a constant white spot should it not register it as a white or blank spot on the page??? just something that puzzles me and thought would get some good conversation.


    oh yeah and TGIF!!! have a good one
  • vincent64
    Trusted Tech

    250+ Posts
    • Feb 2008
    • 382

    #2
    Originally posted by treed889
    So I'm still a newbie for the most part (less than 5 months on the job) workin on copiers but one thing I have never figured out is why does white out leave dark streaks when you use the doc feeder? The light compares the image you scan to a white background judging the color so when it sees a constant white spot should it not register it as a white or blank spot on the page??? just something that puzzles me and thought would get some good conversation.


    oh yeah and TGIF!!! have a good one
    Welcome to the ranks, if you make it a year, you just may make it, next time you have some w/o on a scan glass, SPF glass, or what ever you call it, take the glass out, flip it over and take a look from the machine point of view, it aint white, and most time is has come off a document, may have some of the ink they were whiting out mixed in there as well.

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    • blackcat4866
      Master Of The Obvious

      Site Contributor
      10,000+ Posts
      • Jul 2007
      • 22999

      #3
      Yep. After paper has rubbed across that whiteout a few thousand times, it will look somewhere between gray & black.

      As an experiment, take some whiteout and a piece of paper and smear it around with your finger. It won't be white. =^..^=
      If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
      1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
      2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
      3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
      4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
      5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

      blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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      • ToshibaTech
        Senior Tech

        500+ Posts
        • Apr 2007
        • 580

        #4
        These things are alien technology. It's the only explanation I have come up with for anything over the years.
        I will not give you service manuals or firmware.

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        • pacman
          I can turn a screw...

          250+ Posts
          • Apr 2009
          • 318

          #5
          Originally posted by ToshibaTech
          These things are alien technology. It's the only explanation I have come up with for anything over the years.

          I KNEW IT!!!!!!

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          • gwaddle
            Senior Tech

            500+ Posts
            • May 2009
            • 782

            #6
            Originally posted by ToshibaTech
            These things are alien technology. It's the only explanation I have come up with for anything over the years.
            I thought they were just magic. That's what I tell the customers.
            I know I should be ashamed of myself. Strangely though, I am not.

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            • treed889
              Technician
              • Mar 2010
              • 24

              #7
              haha thanks guys i'll have to check that next time instead of just scraping it off.

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              • ZOOTECH
                Senior member of CRS

                Site Contributor
                2,500+ Posts
                • Jul 2007
                • 3375

                #8
                Originally posted by ToshibaTech
                These things are alien technology. It's the only explanation I have come up with for anything over the years.
                When I can't explain a fix, I tell the customer it's either AM or FM (another miracle or frickin' magic).
                "You can't trust your eyes, if your mind is out of focus" --

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                • treed889
                  Technician
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 24

                  #9
                  haha never thought of AM and FM like that, thats simple and clever.

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                  • 10871087
                    Service Manager

                    1,000+ Posts
                    • Jan 2005
                    • 1143

                    #10
                    Originally posted by ZOOTECH
                    When I can't explain a fix, I tell the customer it's either AM or FM (another miracle or frickin' magic).
                    Been around a long time, never heard that one before.

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                    • ZOOTECH
                      Senior member of CRS

                      Site Contributor
                      2,500+ Posts
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 3375

                      #11
                      My original (pat on the back) from 10-15 years ago.
                      Last edited by ZOOTECH; 07-27-2010, 11:06 PM.
                      "You can't trust your eyes, if your mind is out of focus" --

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                      • prntrfxr
                        Service Manager

                        1,000+ Posts
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 1627

                        #12
                        I agree with Blackcat. I believe that whiteout, although white is not reflective. Light is absorbed instead of reflected, and therefore appears as a black line. It hasn't been proven though, so it is a good question. Wonder if we could get a scientist to add the definitive answer to the Wiki Whiteout article?
                        Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways - Coke in one hand - chocolate in the other - body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming "WOO-HOO, what a ride!".

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                        • mikadonovan
                          Senior Tech

                          Site Contributor
                          2,500+ Posts
                          • May 2008
                          • 2931

                          #13
                          I think that it uses the white strip to set a reference point as 0, so anything even a little different, including a different shade of white will register a value other than 0 and show up as print.
                          NEVER ASSUME ANYTHING

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