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  • JSC
    Gimp

    500+ Posts
    • Dec 2006
    • 618

    #16
    If they come in the PM box I change em....If not I blow/brush them out............honest govn'er
    The gene pool could use a little chlorine.

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    • banginbishop
      grumpy old git

      500+ Posts
      • Oct 2007
      • 894

      #17
      Originally posted by JSC
      If they come in the PM box I change em....If not I blow/brush them out............honest govn'er
      dito. I remember a customer from years back on a high end minolta and they were complaining of headaches and feeling sick....... why, because the ozones had never been replaced. Thankfully the customer never knew what was causing it and my then service manager changed them. I learned from his mistake as the responsibilty for my work stops with me.
      Incontinentia Buttocks

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      • Stirton.M
        All things Konica Minolta

        1,000+ Posts
        • Oct 2009
        • 1804

        #18
        I change them if included in the pm or consumable item. Usually the black toner or image unit on the office machines.
        "Many years ago I chased a woman for almost two years, only to discover that her tastes were exactly like mine: we both were crazy about girls."
        ---Groucho Marx


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        • mascan42
          Trusted Tech

          250+ Posts
          • Oct 2008
          • 481

          #19
          I change it if it's in the PM kit. But with the color machines, where it's included in the black toner, 99% of customers just throw it away without knowing what it is, because reading instructions is hard.

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          • blackcat4866
            Master Of The Obvious

            Site Contributor
            10,000+ Posts
            • Jul 2007
            • 22997

            #20
            Originally posted by jimbo1
            ... How do you know when they are "full"? Sounds like trying to understand carbon credits.
            Just heft the filter in you hand. That ozone gets heavy. Be careful not to spill any on the floor.

            But seriously, Unless you've brought your portable laboratory, I don't think that there's a definitive field test. Maybe just age? =^..^=
            If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
            1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
            2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
            3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
            4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
            5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

            blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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            • Tricky
              Field Supervisor

              Site Contributor
              2,500+ Posts
              • Apr 2009
              • 2620

              #21
              Some guy in the workshop rewired all the coronas in a IR7105 and put about 4 boxes (2000 sheets) of paper through it to test without the back panel screwed on.

              He shared the ozone with everyone in the room ;(

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              • mrwho
                Major Asshole!

                Site Contributor
                2,500+ Posts
                • Apr 2009
                • 4299

                #22
                If the machine is installed in a well-ventilated room, I usually throw them away. When not, I try to replace them when needed.
                ' "But the salesman said . . ." The salesman's an asshole!'
                Mascan42

                'You will always find some Eskimo ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves.'

                Ibid

                I'm just an ex-tech lurking around and spreading disinformation!

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                • slybot
                  Trusted Tech

                  100+ Posts
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 165

                  #23
                  Originally posted by fixthecopier
                  If I have them I change them. Customers do not. If some one ask me about that smell. I just tell them it is what low level radiation smells like. But do not worry, the radiation from a copier is so heavy it hovers at about waist level, so try not to bend over a lot, it may affect your brain
                  wicked

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                  • kingpd@businessprints.net
                    Senior Tech

                    500+ Posts
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 921

                    #24
                    Originally posted by fixthecopier
                    If I have them I change them. Customers do not. If some one ask me about that smell. I just tell them it is what low level radiation smells like. But do not worry, the radiation from a copier is so heavy it hovers at about waist level, so try not to bend over a lot, it may affect your brain
                    If people are so concerned about ozone and radiation from a copier then they should get the hell off their cell phones and go climb a mountain. Literally.

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                    • kingpd@businessprints.net
                      Senior Tech

                      500+ Posts
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 921

                      #25
                      Originally posted by banginbishop
                      dito. I remember a customer from years back on a high end minolta and they were complaining of headaches and feeling sick....... why, because the ozones had never been replaced. Thankfully the customer never knew what was causing it and my then service manager changed them. I learned from his mistake as the responsibilty for my work stops with me.

                      I remember years ago this old lady would yell at people who had to make a copy b/c the smell made her nautious. The copier was literally about four feet from her desk. Get a copy room you moron!

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                      • kingpd@businessprints.net
                        Senior Tech

                        500+ Posts
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 921

                        #26
                        Originally posted by blackcat4866
                        Just heft the filter in you hand. That ozone gets heavy. Be careful not to spill any on the floor.

                        But seriously, Unless you've brought your portable laboratory, I don't think that there's a definitive field test. Maybe just age? =^..^=
                        Have someone eat it. If they live, the filter is fine; if they get sick then it is still good, if they die then time to replace it.

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                        • Lotec
                          Technician

                          50+ Posts
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 97

                          #27
                          It depends on where I've worked. Some companies never change them, and others follow the book strictly.

                          It also depends on the customers. Some customers are more professional AND they take time when they check out the copiers they want to buy. They know what PM parts that is in the machine - and when they are going to be replaced. Some also demand to keep the old parts, to be in control, and to check if they get what they pay for.
                          Others have regular air quality controls. If the air quality is bad around a machine we can loose money. So then it is important to change and clean the filters at regular intervals. It don't take a lot of time. But is cost some money though.

                          But most people don't care and don't know how a copier works.

                          I remember once at a customer.. they had a lot of plants around the copier. And the plants kept getting brown/yellow sports. That was caused by ozone gas. So when we started to change the filters the plants stopped getting the spots.

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                          • ddude
                            General Troublemaker

                            250+ Posts
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 473

                            #28
                            Okay, I'm an old guy (really old guy, or rog), but I remember buying a ozone producing machine from the Sharper Image that would fill your room with the wonderful emanations of ozone, infusing you with peace and love, all for $49.95- and, at that time, I remember how the smell from the coronas off of a running a Saxon PPC I was the same smell as my expensive ozone producer. So how come this wonderful ozone is good when produced purposely, but bad as a byproduct of a productive piece of office equipment?
                            2000 mockingbirds = 2 kilomockingbirds

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                            • kingpd@businessprints.net
                              Senior Tech

                              500+ Posts
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 921

                              #29
                              That's a really good question. Would like to know the answer myself. I was told ozone smells like fresh rain in a rainforest...well I've never been to one.

                              Originally posted by ddude
                              Okay, I'm an old guy (really old guy, or rog), but I remember buying a ozone producing machine from the Sharper Image that would fill your room with the wonderful emanations of ozone, infusing you with peace and love, all for $49.95- and, at that time, I remember how the smell from the coronas off of a running a Saxon PPC I was the same smell as my expensive ozone producer. So how come this wonderful ozone is good when produced purposely, but bad as a byproduct of a productive piece of office equipment?

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                              • Lotec
                                Technician

                                50+ Posts
                                • Feb 2008
                                • 97

                                #30
                                That ozone producing machine.. it didn't happen to be one of those electrostatic precipitators, or electrostatic air cleaners if you like. It's a particulate collection device that removes particles from air (or other flowing gases - in industry for example). It uses the force of an induced electrostatic charge. A byproduct is ozone gas. Electrostatic precipitators are highly efficient filtration devices that minimally impede the flow of gases through the device, and can easily remove fine particulate matter such as dust and smoke from the air stream.
                                I thought they required an ozone filter itself, so it wouldn't pollute the air by itself..
                                Last edited by Lotec; 12-08-2010, 08:35 AM. Reason: spelling/gramma..

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