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  • techspec
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    • Dec 2008
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    #1

    Mr. Rubix Designed These Fusers

    Nightmare fusers. We've all done them.

    The worst fuser I had ever done was on the Panasonic DP2310 but that was until I came across the nightmare that is the Sharp MXC311.

    What is the fuser that gives you nightmares?
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    Awesome Sauce

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    • Nov 2009
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    #2
    Originally posted by techspec
    The worst fuser I had ever done was on the Panasonic DP2310...

    What is the fuser that gives you nightmares?
    I rebuild 2310 fusers all the time. A lot of tear down to rebuild them but I've done so many that I can have one rebuilt in about an hour.

    I can't think of any fusers that I've done that were very challenging. Probably because of all my experience with the 2310's.
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    • Jimbo1
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      • Mar 2008
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      #3
      I was school trained on the MX-6500 Sharp machines.
      I had never seen a fuser that had to have it's own little manual for how to disassemble/reasssemble. When I say little I mean about 50 pages. I had also never seen a fuser that had to have an extra heat element riding OUTSIDE the heat roller!!!!!!!!!

      I don't work on that brand anymore and I am glad. If you have the patience for them God love ya.

      Then ther was the fuser in the Ricoh color machine that would pop open like a can of biscuits. Don't remeber the nomenclature of the machine but someone posted a picture of the heat roller here somewhere.
      Last edited by Jimbo1; 12-29-2010, 11:34 PM. Reason: spelling
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      • D_L_P
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        • Oct 2009
        • 1196

        #4
        Ricoh C900pro gets my vote. Ricoh MP4000 gets honorable mention. I've seen fusers generally improve since the old analog days, those 2 are a step back.


        And a Canon irC3200, but technically they aren't supposed to be rebuilt in the field.

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        • techspec
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          • Dec 2008
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          #5
          Originally posted by D_L_P
          Ricoh C900pro gets my vote. Ricoh MP4000 gets honorable mention. I've seen fusers generally improve since the old analog days, those 2 are a step back.


          And a Canon irC3200, but technically they aren't supposed to be rebuilt in the field.
          I forgot about the MP4000 fuser........now that is a nightmare. The web, the first time I did one took me about a hour and the fuser itself, don't get me started on that. But the good side on that fuser is that in one of the machines in my area it lasted just over a million prints and thats when I decided enough is enough and refurbed it.

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          • ptrflrs
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            • Dec 2010
            • 192

            #6
            Originally posted by techspec
            Nightmare fusers. We've all done them.

            The worst fuser I had ever done was on the Panasonic DP2310 but that was until I came across the nightmare that is the Sharp MXC311.

            What is the fuser that gives you nightmares?
            i second that with the sharp mxc311/401 -u know there is a new fuser part# and fuser kit updated numbers, right? they beefed up those gay little bearings, finally. sharp is also (finally!) reimbursing for locked up fusers. in our company we have replaced hundreds of those bearings and now about as many fusing units and the 2 drive gears that they damage as well. the ricoh 3260c can also be a pain with those crappy belts and the soft foam roller that rides inside blowing out.
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            • slybot
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              • Sep 2010
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              #7
              xerox dcc1250 fusers. what pieces of crap they were. talk about over designed and under engineered. snotbox machines

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              • Tricky
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                • Apr 2009
                • 2620

                #8
                Originally posted by D_L_P


                And a Canon irC3200, but technically they aren't supposed to be rebuilt in the field.
                Its not much easier in the workshop
                Turn the adjusting screw [1] at the
                front/rear so that the length of the pressure spring is 31.5 mm.
                Then there's the nip check.

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                • slybot
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                  • Sep 2010
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by slybot
                  xerox dcc1250 fusers. what pieces of crap they were. talk about over designed and under engineered. snotbox machines
                  or maybe that is over engineered and underdesigned. the same with the a900 series. absolute bollocks

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                  • Jimbo1
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                    • Mar 2008
                    • 845

                    #10
                    Originally posted by ptrflrs
                    the ricoh 3260c can also be a pain with those crappy belts and the soft foam roller that rides inside blowing out.
                    That must be the one I was talking about.
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                    • fixthecopier
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                      • Apr 2008
                      • 4713

                      #11
                      OK, I hate a Minolta Di 251/351 fuser. We at one time had 600 to 700 of these in the field. We had 40 whole built units that came with the contract, but the manager did not want to let them go, we were supposed to rebuild them. Well, through hitting the warehouse for used machines, and signing out the new ones when the manager was gone, I managed to go 8 years and only rebuild 1 of these bitches. I am sure I just jinxed myself by talking about it.
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                      • Jules Winfield
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                        • Jul 2009
                        • 821

                        #12
                        I guess mine would have to be the old Mita Ci7600 fusers. The oil pumping mechanism was very messy and the oil blade was very sharp, so if it slipped out of your hand while removing/replacing it there was always the chance that it could cut the rubber coating on one of the fuser rollers.
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                        • df3036
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                          • Feb 2009
                          • 109

                          #13
                          Ricoh Aficio 6513 oil pumping pig..... These are always located where there is no place to work. Its bad when there is a weight warning sticker on the fuser.
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                          • ToshibaTech
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                            • Apr 2007
                            • 580

                            #14
                            Toshiba e16 kind of sucks. The sharp 168d / toshiba 162 desktop sucks in that the fuser is easy to take apart... however the fuser design is the worse I have seen constantly seizing up even with updated gears, replacing whole fusers, etc... The newer 203sd (toshiba) is --much-- better even though it looks about the same.

                            Anyone ever put a main gear pack in a Sharp FO-4400 (or similar) fax? Just for that one fuser drive gear! I hate small machines.
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                            • Stirton.M
                              All things Konica Minolta

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                              • Oct 2009
                              • 1804

                              #15
                              Cannot say I have had any issues rebuilding fusers in KM colour machines...at least not on the scale some of you guys talk of. CF900 Minoltas were a bit of a pain, but that was because they use silicon oil...the C6500 series are fairly easy to rebuild, and I am looking forward to rebuilding one in the Press C8000, those ones are modular...we estimated an hour to rebuild one in the class first time through...my guess is after some experience, 30 minutes. The only drawback is these suckers are freaking heavy beasts, they come with a trolley to work on them....HORSE I am sure can testify to that....
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