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  • blackcat4866
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    #16
    Re: What do we want our children taught really?

    Originally posted by prntrfxr
    I would teach my child ...
    You've really given this some serious thought. =^..^=
    If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
    1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
    2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
    3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
    4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
    5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

    blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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    • NeoMatrix
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      #17
      Re: What do we want our children taught really?

      How many people here have children of their own ?

      99% of all children born into this world have innate good will, right up to the point in their lives where they are told the word "NO".
      From that day on every child starts to learn what negative emotions are. Would'nt it be lovely world if we could forever see the world through a childs eyes and heart.

      Hmmm "NO"...
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      • prntrfxr
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        #18
        Re: What do we want our children taught really?

        Originally posted by Jimbo1
        I agree with a lot of what everyone has said here. I am just curious how many looked at the associated video?????????
        I didn't, but I remember things my teachers taught. It is a form of conditioning that you hear all your life. I remember comparing them to the teachers my little brother had. Big difference. My teachers were old church ladies (probably conservative) and his were younger than me with tatoos and body piercings (probably liberals). Neither side taught values or morality.Just half truths or they addressed the symptoms by suggesting that government can fix the problems in the world. All the patriotic crap you hear in school is a divisive influence and is based on half-truths, at best. They never get to the root of the problem. History teaches us that every major governmental power will fail by the breakdown of the family unit. Strong families make strong communities, not conflicting political powers.

        Ultimately, it is not the responsibility of teachers to teach morality to children, anyway. It is the parents. If you don't spend time teaching your children values, principles and morality, someone else will. I knew a co-worker who said he wasn't going to teach right and wrong to his kids, but let them make up their own mind when they were grown. His children left home at 16 and 17. Both of them have criminal records and can't speak respectively to anyone. Too much control isn't good either, because they would never learn to make decisions on their own. There has to be balance. Children are like springs. If you press them down real hard and release them too soon, they'll bounce all over the place. But if you hold them firmly at the start and slowly release as they come to adulthood they stand on their own, not bounce without a direction throughout their life. That's why things are getting worse in this world. A long time ago children worked along side their parents. They could be taught all day by them. Then, there was at least one parent home with children during their formative years. This was not as good, but better than what we have now. Children being raised by strangers. No wonder there is such a gap between parents and teenagers.

        You have to put what you can into them while they're young, hoping that they'll make the right choices when they get older. It's still up to them in the long run, but they need a solid foundation in order to learn how to make the right decisions. That's the point I'm making. Actions speak louder than words, so it's up to us adults to set the example we want them to follow and put the quality time we need to put in them to make sure they get the real lessons before it is too late. No job is more important than that. Just my 2 cents.
        Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways - Coke in one hand - chocolate in the other - body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming "WOO-HOO, what a ride!".

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        • Jimbo1
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          #19
          Re: What do we want our children taught really?

          When I was in the third grade....oh about 1964..........my third grade teacher would read out of the Old Testament while we were eating our lunches. We heard all the stories about David and all that. I look back on that fondly. There are those that will tell me that was indoctrination. i am really glad i went to school then .

          I would a lot rather that then pay tens upon tens of thousands of dollars to have my children listen to Marxist drivel.
          "Some days you get the bear, some days the bear gets you."

          Cdr. William Riker

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          • Shadow1
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            #20
            Re: What do we want our children taught really?

            Originally posted by Jimbo1
            I would a lot rather that then pay tens upon tens of thousands of dollars to have my children listen to Marxist drivel.
            My school (late 70's) had a Bible study as part of the literature class, but parents could opt their kids out of it. No one did. They also had a Koran study as part of the class, and they skipped it as nearly everyone was opted out of it.

            And now on to 2012 where I do pay a considerable chunk of change so that my kids can attend a Christian School - and not only listen to the Bible stories, but also have it as a part of the curriculum. Even the Atheists among us will admit there is a lot of wisdom in those stories.
            73 DE W5SSJ

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            • NeoMatrix
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              #21
              Re: What do we want our children taught really?

              Originally posted by lees
              Can't say it any better than that Prntrfxr.
              I agree with Prntfxr ...

              But to sum up Prntfxr's memoirs : She would simply teach her child to be come balanced in all area's of life.
              For a child to become a balanced healthy member of society , the child needs both the male and female energy in their youthful years. When one parents energy out weighs the other the children become segregated, and they will seek out meaningful energy to compensate or release their spiritual stagnation well into their adult years. It is vital for a young child to have a healthy balance of energy from both male /female parents. The energy I speak of takes on many known forms ,love hate ,good bad,weak strong ,happy sad..... an so on and so on ,as their life begins....

              The balance of energy is the very real reason atomic orbits right on up to planetary orbits exist. Without perfect balance the whole system falls apart very quickly. The balance of ALL energy is fixed universal law and is unbreakable.

              You may place what ever name you wish upon the universal energy field of all that is...
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              • Hemlock
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                #22
                Re: What do we want our children taught really?

                As an atheist, I want Christianity taught!
                “Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'” (Isaac Asimov)

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                • Jimbo1
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                  #23
                  Re: What do we want our children taught really?

                  Originally posted by Hemlock
                  As an atheist, I want Christianity taught!
                  Those are some great scriptures....however....Jesus is not a Socialist/Marxist.
                  "Some days you get the bear, some days the bear gets you."

                  Cdr. William Riker

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                  • Hemlock
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                    #24
                    Re: What do we want our children taught really?

                    I know - he's a free market, gun toting capitalist. It says so in the scriptures!
                    “Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'” (Isaac Asimov)

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                    • Jimbo1
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                      #25
                      Re: What do we want our children taught really?

                      Originally posted by Hemlock
                      I know - he's a free market, gun toting capitalist. It says so in the scriptures!
                      No...it does not say either now does it?
                      "Some days you get the bear, some days the bear gets you."

                      Cdr. William Riker

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                      • Shadow1
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                        #26
                        Re: What do we want our children taught really?

                        Jesus was a teacher. He gave people the knowledge they needed, made sure they understood what they needed to, and let them make their own decisions - that also means they reap what they sow. They had the personal accountability of accepting the benefits / consequences of their decisions... No bailouts for bad behavior, but plenty of second chances to make better decisions.
                        73 DE W5SSJ

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                        • prntrfxr
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                          #27
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                          :facepalm: (As Zaza what it means if you don't know.)
                          Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways - Coke in one hand - chocolate in the other - body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming "WOO-HOO, what a ride!".

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                          • DAG COPIERS & COMPUTERS
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                            #28
                            Re: What do we want our children taught really?

                            Originally posted by Hemlock
                            As an atheist, I want Christianity taught!
                            All the above message can be summarized into one word: "LOVE". In Christianity we are taught that '' SHARING" is the christian way of saying '' I LOVE YOU".

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