Gun Control

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95 Gun Control and Gun Rights cartoons

http://www.usnews.com/cartoons/gun-control-and-gun-rights-cartoons?s_cid=art_btm3

[SalesServiceGuy]

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U.N. Passes NRA-Opposed Gun Control Treaty

U.N. Passes NRA-Opposed Gun Control Treaty - US News and World Report

The United Nations General Assembly voted overwhelmingly Tuesday to approve the U.N. Arms Trade Treaty, which aims to regulate the international sale of weapons. The United States was one of the 154 votes in favor.


The American National Rifle Association opposes the treaty. In a February interview with The Daily Caller, NRA President David Keene said the treaty would "end-run the Congress, end-run the Constitution, end-run the state legislatures and the federal courts." Among the NRA's objections are record-keeping requirements for imported guns.


It's unlikely that the treaty is supported by the two-thirds majority in the U.S. Senate required for ratification.

[SalesServiceGuy]

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The point is you cannot control what people do with guns once they get them. As I tried to explain to in my famous Robert Burns poem ... shit happens despite any one's best plans.

This is why in your family guns are securely stowed but just down the street they could be in the easy reach of a 13 year old.

[HenryT2]

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Detroit-Area School Suicide Highlights Gun Control Debate

Detroit-Area School Suicide Highlights Gun Control Debate

Tragedy struck at a metro Detroit school in late March. ABC Action News 7 WXYZ reports that a eighth-grade boy brought a handgun to Davidson Middle School in Southgate, Michigan, and shot himself in the school bathroom. Tyler Nichols was 13. According to The Oakland Press, the eighth grader used a .40-caliber Glock handgun to shoot himself once in the head on Thursday, March 21.

Police reported that the gun used was owned by a family member of Nichols, and city Public Safety Director Thomas Coombs said at a press conference that it was legally registered but not properly secured.

Families with guns are 22x more likely to suffer a gun related tragedy to a family member than from a criminal attacker.

Tell that to the family of Tyler Nichols, the 13 year old, who accidentally killed himself with his father's Glock reported a few posts back.

I could do that .....

An adult that owns a weapon ( what ever it may be; a firearm, a slingshot, a sword or dirk, a wooden mallet, etc. ) that keeps it where someone not trained in using said weapon in a responsible manner, should not really have these weapons.
In other words ... NOT SECURED !

A RESPONSIBLE ADULT WILL KEEP THEIR WEAPONS LOCKED AWAY FROM CHILDREN ...

The story just says ' a family member ' it did not say it was his father ... " the gun used was owned by a family member of Nichols ..... Public Safety Director Thomas Coombs said at a press conference that it was legally registered but not properly secured. "

[SalesServiceGuy]

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Have you ever heard of a 13 year old committing suicide???? Can you ever imagine a good situation where a 13 year old has a loaded Glock in his hand????

This is exactly why families with guns are 22x more likely to suffer tragedy from within rather than at the hands of a criminal. And yes, I acknowledge that the police stated that the father failed to properly store the hand gun.

The best laid schemes of mice and men

Origin

From Robert Burns' poem To a Mouse, 1786. It tells of how he, while ploughing a field, upturned a mouse's nest. The resulting poem is an apology to the mouse:
...
But, Mousie, thou art no thy lane [you aren't alone]
In proving foresight may be vain:
The best laid schemes o' mice an' men
Gang aft a-gley, [often go awry]
An' lea'e us nought but grief an' pain,
For promised joy.

Meaning

The most carefully prepared plans may go wrong.

[DWise]

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Tell that to the family of Tyler Nichols, the 13 year old, who accidentally killed himself with his father's Glock reported a few posts back.

Accidentally? From your description, it sounds like a suicide... I've never heard of an accidental suicide

[SalesServiceGuy]

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Tell that to the family of Tyler Nichols, the 13 year old, who accidentally killed himself with his father's Glock reported a few posts back.

[HenryT2]

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I loaded my 9mm, .22LR, .243, and shotgun, put them on the table, and watched them all day. Not one of them shot anybody.

Good Guns... Sit! Lay down! Roll Over!

Great Idea !!!
I'll check mine tonight ...

I did test my weapons last night and ... THANK GOODNESS..... they behaved properly too .

Did anyone else have an opportunity to test theirs ?

[tech07]

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Several people on this topic claim to have concealed gun permits. I was wondering when you have to travel to a different state or county where that permit is no longer legal, do you comply and disarm? How does that make you feel about your personal safety?

Most states I travel to have reprocicity agreements with N.C. allowing my conceal carry permit. If Iwere in a state that did not allow this, I would disarm and not worry about it. But I would be even more keenly aware about my surroundings. I could live with that and my self defense training.,including retreating

[Shadow1]

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Hmmmm. Amazing stats. But who is going to be defenseless? Who has said they are going to take away your guns? Where is that stat? All that will happen is it will be a little more difficult to obtain a gun. A bad thing? No. And who really needs a magazine that holds 30 cartridges? No big loss either.
So, keep your guns if they make you feel safe.

The 2nd Amendment wasn't written for the deer hunter, it was written for the citizen who may someday have cause to defend his constitution from an overbearing government with 30 round magazines. Those same founding fathers knew we wouldn't really need 2A until someone tried to take it away.
(I will admit there are a few deer hunters so lacking in shooting skill to be in need of a 30 round mag... and who probably shouldn't be hunting.)

None of the examples above apply to the modern American experience as they are all from 40 to 100 years ago and use dictator states as examples.

Exactly the point - an armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man is a subject. Dictators and criminals don't like citizens capable of defending themselves. No one has been dumb enough to try taking Americans guns away and turning our government into a dictatorship... until now.

And in one of the more recent listed examples, how do you think the Nazis started gun control in Austria? With a gun registry - after that they knew where to go when they wanted to disarm everyone.

Families with guns are 22x more likely to suffer a gun related tragedy to a family member than from a criminal attacker.

There are recreational uses for guns as well. I've known lots of people who don't particularly like guns, but enjoy Skeet or Sporting Clays. Having said that, how much more likely do you think a family who owns an ATV is to have an ATV related death?

Several people on this topic claim to have concealed gun permits. I was wondering when you have to travel to a different state or county where that permit is no longer legal, do you comply and disarm? How does that make you feel about your personal safety?

Our constitution has a clause that requires "Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each state to the public Acts, Records, and Judicial Proceedings of every other State." That can be used in several different ways - there are laws permitting CCW carry, and laws restricting firearms. The federal government is supposed to be restricted from "infringing" on the right to bear arms, regulating firearms is not in the enumerated powers of the federal constitution, and any powers not specifically granted to the federal government are given to the states and to the people. (That's Article IV 1:1a, Article 1 8 - 9, The 2nd Amendment, and The 10th Amendment)

It should be up to each state to regulate firearms, keeping in mind they must comply with 2A, and each other state should honor a CCW permit from another state. That's not the way it works thanks to creeping liberalism, but that's the way it's written in our constitution... except I don't think many politicians or judges bother to read the constitution anymore.

[Darren King]

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Or you might kill a child with silverware, and have to live with that for the rest of your life.

Have an issue with table spoons do you? The other day I walked into a mall and pointed one at a group of people from 10 yards away and guess what happened. Absolutely nothing! It is a spoon.