Does New York state have the right to limit the size of soft drinks to 16 oz that are partially the cause of the obesity epidemic plaguing the USA?
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According to the result of the court case that came out today, the answer is "NO". At least that's what I heard. And so it continues to go through the courts. So I guess both people who wish to be two dimensional like you and everybody else who wants to be three dimensional are safe for the time being.Last edited by Iowatech; 03-12-2013, 03:46 AM. -
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New York State was set to enforce this new law effective March 12. At the last minute, a single judge, possibly influenced by the considerable pressure of the American Beverage association and the American Restaurant Association issued a permanentNew YorkNew York Soda Size Limit Statute Barred by State Judge - BloombergComment
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A 32 oz soda isn't going to make someone fat......lack of self control and poor choices....that will make you fat...."In a cruel and evil world, being cynical can allow you to get some entertainment out of it."
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' "But the salesman said . . ." The salesman's an asshole!'
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'You will always find some Eskimo ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves.'
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Cost would likely be the answer to that. Buying 2 16 oz drinks would be more expensive than buying 1 32 oz drink."In a cruel and evil world, being cynical can allow you to get some entertainment out of it."
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' "But the salesman said . . ." The salesman's an asshole!'
Mascan42
'You will always find some Eskimo ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves.'
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None of these "magic bullets" that legislators enact for public health reasons ever have the intended effect and believe me we've had a ton of them over here in the U.K.
The fact remains that no food outlet anywhere in the world forces anyone to eat or drink anything. Every adult person is in control of what they shove into their pie holes and the choices you make determine the size you become.
Any argument made about portion sizes being too big, fast food being too ubiquitous and convenient is just excuses, people trying to shift the blame for their own poor choices onto someone else. If you really wanted healthy food in a sensible portion size you'd have had a tofu sandwich for lunch rather than an enormous burrito ... Hey I'm not judging anyone, I'm as guilty as the next guy of opting for a McLunch on more occasions than is healthy..... but that is also why I take 40" waist pants.
I made the conscious decision to eat less fast food and take a packed lunch to work. The result, I've lost 14lbs since Xmas. All that without local or national government agencies legislating about anything.Comment
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The judge struck down the ban because it was "arbitrary and capricious".
The Burger King could not serve 17oz sugary drinks, but could serve larger diet soda or un-sweet tea, making it difficult to regulate. In addition, because of the way the law was written, the gas station down the street could sell any size of anything they wanted.
...not to mention that the whole thing was stupid to begin with. Fast food chains generally offer free refills, so it only creates an inconvenience having to refill your cup more often. Maybe they should take a look at the menu - Big coke 300cal... Double Whopper with Cheese and Large Fries 1500cal... Hmmm, which one is going to put more strain on the seams of your pants.
The judge did not delve into if the government has any business telling us how to run our lives - and the answer is NO! It's not the government's job to run our lives - they can't even run their own business without bankrupting everything they touch.
No wonder they desperately want to take away our guns if they want to crawl up our ass with a microscope and try to micromanage people like that. I get enough of that crap at work.73 DE W5SSJComment
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If they teach proper health in school, it wouldn't be an issue. I believe choices about your own body and health are personal and government should not be a hypocrite about it. Alcohol and tobacco kill more every year than all drugs combined in the past 40 years. As long as they are legal, the government should butt out of everything else that is less dangerous.The greatest enemy of knowledge isn't ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge. Stephen HawkingComment
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To me, if they want to control anything it should be the salt/sugar quantities per gram/pound/whatever instead of absolute quantity. I find it amusing that so many people prefer diet drinks instead of the regular ones, when the diet counterparts seem to be far more damaging to you.' "But the salesman said . . ." The salesman's an asshole!'
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'You will always find some Eskimo ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves.'
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“Without a portion cap on sugary drinks, it would be harder to tackle an obesity epidemic that kills more New Yorkers than anything other than smoking and causes misery for many thousands more who suffer from heart disease, diabetes and other debilitating illnesses,” New York City Health Commissioner Thomas Farley said in a statement. “Sugary drinks are a leading cause of this epidemic. Yesterday’s decision threatens the health of New Yorkers, but we are confident that we will win on appeal.”
Everyone has the right to put what food they want into their bodies but I think the City has the right to encourage people to make better choices when it's citizens are faced with an obesity epidemic.
The main oponents to this law are those who profit from the increased consumption of soft drinks.
According to Harvard University’s School of Public Health. “Strong evidence indicates that our rising thirst for ‘liquid candy’ has been a major contributor to the obesity and diabetes epidemics,” the public-health school reported on its website.Comment
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I think the City has the right to encourage people to make better choices when it's citizens are faced with an obesity epidemic.
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There's a differance between encourageing and legislating what the people can do !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
For thier own good or not !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BTW I'm going to QT for a 39 cent refill of my 48oz slushie !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Mystic Crystal RevelationsComment
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Well if they want to waste money buying 2 16 oz drinks that's fine...they can be fat AND stupid...and we as techs know for a fact that you just can't fix stupid...be nice if politicians realized you can't fix stupid....if we'd stop trying to make stupid people from doing stupid things I think nature would sort itself."In a cruel and evil world, being cynical can allow you to get some entertainment out of it."
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