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  • banginbishop
    grumpy old git

    500+ Posts
    • Oct 2007
    • 894

    anal customers

    never had this but until last week ive heard about it before. Customer using a stop watch to time the machine and a tape measure to see if its the correct dimensions listed by ricoh in the brochure - WTF. MPC5000 customer said it doesn't do 50 cpm in colour I said no it wont in b/w yes but not colour. ok ive just checked the brochure and it does do 50 in colour but its still anal any way!
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  • Debs1964
    Service Manager

    1,000+ Posts
    • Oct 2010
    • 1687

    #2
    Re: anal customers

    The speed will depend on other factors too, if they have the tray set to thick paper, then it will run slower, if they are doing full page coverage, then the machine may be doing a self check mid run
    There are 10 types of people in this world, those who understand binary maths and those who don't

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    • Debs1964
      Service Manager

      1,000+ Posts
      • Oct 2010
      • 1687

      #3
      Re: anal customers

      Also, I hope you got your tape measure out to check that the machine met with the minimum siting requirements
      There are 10 types of people in this world, those who understand binary maths and those who don't

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      • banginbishop
        grumpy old git

        500+ Posts
        • Oct 2007
        • 894

        #4
        Re: anal customers

        oh and he used a tape measure to check the void and lead edge!
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        • banginbishop
          grumpy old git

          500+ Posts
          • Oct 2007
          • 894

          #5
          Re: anal customers

          sod the minimum requirement I was in there for 2 hours pissing about with the registration and wanted out quick. The fault was for a broken staple cover on a trial machine. the guy is a nice person but I can see it will be a problem machine if crappy toner is used.
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          • Debs1964
            Service Manager

            1,000+ Posts
            • Oct 2010
            • 1687

            #6
            Re: anal customers

            Originally posted by banginbishop
            oh and he used a tape measure to check the void and lead edge!
            It's a recommended mod to increase the lead edge deletion to 5.2mm on this model to reduce fuser jams on full colour
            There are 10 types of people in this world, those who understand binary maths and those who don't

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            • banginbishop
              grumpy old git

              500+ Posts
              • Oct 2007
              • 894

              #7
              Re: anal customers

              I have a question on this model debs. Why does it not have a cleaner roller on the fuser and how does it keep itself clean? all I can see you replace is the felt under but that doesn't get dirty anyway.
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              • Debs1964
                Service Manager

                1,000+ Posts
                • Oct 2010
                • 1687

                #8
                Re: anal customers

                I never replace the felt, I think the toner may contain wax, but I'm not sure, I could be wrong (there's a first time for everything )
                There are 10 types of people in this world, those who understand binary maths and those who don't

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                • MHeon71
                  Trusted Tech

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                  250+ Posts
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 485

                  #9
                  Re: anal customers

                  It's good knowing that the sales person will reinforce false beliefs as well. Client expecting 55 cpm on legal and I had to inform that it was 35 cpm. Had to inform salesperson that cpm listed in model number was more toward 8.5X11 paper. Of course, there were other misquoted specs like finisher tray capacity, color cpm, etc.

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                  • SlipperyCat
                    Support Desk

                    50+ Posts
                    • Sep 2013
                    • 63

                    #10
                    Re: anal customers

                    Sales people are evil and will tell the client anything to get a sale. I trust none of them!

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                    • blackcat4866
                      Master Of The Obvious

                      Site Contributor
                      10,000+ Posts
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 22744

                      #11
                      Re: anal customers

                      My enduser wanted a Copystar CS-8030 to print at 80cpm ... onto 11 x 17 paper ... across a VPN network, server based in Europe (we're in the US). It's closer to 30cpm by the way, between the ledger paper and the slow network. =^..^=
                      If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                      1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                      2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                      3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                      4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                      5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                      blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                      • banginbishop
                        grumpy old git

                        500+ Posts
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 894

                        #12
                        Re: anal customers

                        Originally posted by blackcat4866
                        My enduser wanted a Copystar CS-8030 to print at 80cpm ... onto 11 x 17 paper ... across a VPN network, server based in Europe (we're in the US). It's closer to 30cpm by the way, between the ledger paper and the slow network. =^..^=
                        and your point is did you get it to do what he required lol
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                        • blackcat4866
                          Master Of The Obvious

                          Site Contributor
                          10,000+ Posts
                          • Jul 2007
                          • 22744

                          #13
                          Re: anal customers

                          Originally posted by banginbishop
                          ... did you get it to do what he required lol
                          I didn't bring my magic wand that day.

                          But I did prove that crossover'ed from my laptop, it will print ~78cpm, on a PDF parts manual. =^..^=
                          Last edited by blackcat4866; 10-05-2013, 03:30 PM.
                          If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                          1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                          2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                          3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                          4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                          5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                          blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                          • banginbishop
                            grumpy old git

                            500+ Posts
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 894

                            #14
                            Re: anal customers

                            Originally posted by blackcat4866
                            I didn't bring my magic wand that day. =^..^=

                            if you did it might have been inserted some place where the sun doesn't shine!
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                            • Debs1964
                              Service Manager

                              1,000+ Posts
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 1687

                              #15
                              Re: anal customers

                              Originally posted by blackcat4866
                              I didn't bring my magic wand that day.
                              Quite a few years ago, one of my customers wanted me to make a copier do something it wasn't designed to do (but the salesman said it would do it!!!) after quite a bit of trying to reason with them, I pointed to my toolcase and told them that if they could find the magic wand in there, then I would fix their machine
                              There are 10 types of people in this world, those who understand binary maths and those who don't

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