Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

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  • Mark B
    Trusted Tech

    100+ Posts
    • Jul 2006
    • 153

    #31
    Minolta 3050/4050 when they first came out. After 50 different mods. the machines were not to bad.

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    • Dukem

      #32
      Don't forget pana-sub-sonic

      I agree with 1087 about the 8090/2280 being a BIG pos but does anyone recall working on older analog panasonics, i.e., FP series? 1530,3007,3030,5060? They ran dirty and had an infinite amount of cold solder connections?

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      • wagon
        Village Idiot

        500+ Posts
        • Dec 2006
        • 654

        #33
        What about Ricoh Afficio 200? or 250 or 350 0r 450 (steaming turds the whole lot!) Ah, yes, the Toshiba 1550 - yuk! What about the Minolta Di151? Konica 7222 et al? All steamers, the whole lot!
        If you are hitting your head up against a wall it always feels better when you stop.

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        • JSC
          Gimp

          500+ Posts
          • Dec 2006
          • 618

          #34
          Any Ricoh Colour, 3006 man i hate that machine and as for the Nashua C503 im still in a cold sweat over that one 12years latter!!!
          The gene pool could use a little chlorine.

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          • CMB
            KonicaMinolta Tech.

            250+ Posts
            • Mar 2005
            • 457

            #35
            Originally posted by wagon
            What about Ricoh Afficio 200? or 250 or 350 0r 450 (steaming turds the whole lot!) Ah, yes, the Toshiba 1550 - yuk! What about the Minolta Di151? Konica 7222 et al? All steamers, the whole lot!

            could you explain why the 7222 is a piece?
            i work on the whole line (7020 thru the 7235) the earlier boxes are a pain but the later boxes perform very well.

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            • wagon
              Village Idiot

              500+ Posts
              • Dec 2006
              • 654

              #36
              7222... Paper jams (lots), junk fuser units, etc. etc. (maybe I was spoilt because I came from the Minolta side of the fence prior to the 'merger'.).
              If you are hitting your head up against a wall it always feels better when you stop.

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              • CMB
                KonicaMinolta Tech.

                250+ Posts
                • Mar 2005
                • 457

                #37
                thats strange. some of the earlier models like the 7020 and 7030 we had some issues with the toner recycler units clogging up. we then would have to go in and take everything apart and vacume out all the old toner and developer and start over with fresh. that was a pain. but we figured out if you set the auto shut-off to about 1 hour the fuser won't cook the toner in the unit and you will have less of these types of service calls.

                the later models of these copiers they have improved the design of the toner recycling mechanism and i have not had any of these problems. as long as the rom versions are the latest you shouldn't have any problems with these models. i have several dozen in the field with half a million copies on each that run pm to pm with very little problem. i would say that the biggest problem i have with these would be the ADF heighth adjustment-which is a less than 5 minute service call.

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                • fireater
                  Repair God? not quite

                  250+ Posts
                  • Apr 2006
                  • 253

                  #38
                  Need i say more SHARP SF2035

                  I have works on sharps of all sizes , toshibas, canons, now ricohs, even one or 2 xerox (which i hate cause i cant get any manulas and they are hard to take apart) But hands down the 2035 with the the bad registration and weak motor was nasty. And oh yes the clamshell design by anyone suckd
                  I fix copiers ...Well Sorta

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                  • geneseif

                    #39
                    Konica 2020

                    Basically a sped up 1590 that threw developer down into the gear causing them to grind up. Had to tear it down almost to frame to repair. Used to carry 2 sets of gears. The fix was a piece of foam tape between toner unit and developer unit- but the copier was still an underbuilt piece of crap.

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                    • ajvit

                      #40
                      Old FP series

                      Originally posted by Dukem
                      I agree with 1087 about the 8090/2280 being a BIG pos but does anyone recall working on older analog panasonics, i.e., FP series? 1530,3007,3030,5060? They ran dirty and had an infinite amount of cold solder connections?

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                      • JimBeam
                        Technician
                        • Jun 2006
                        • 42

                        #41
                        Worst Copier

                        With my limited experience, I must agree with copi 40. The Toshiba 1550 was my nightmare. I worked for a reseller who put these POS machines ON CONTRACT !!!! It was awful. The business was sold and the
                        new owner did not renew any of these 1550 contracts. I was grateful.
                        Where there is no prophetic vision, the people perish.

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                        • e99donald

                          #42
                          Any copier made or sold by OLIVETTI..........or ,some of you younger techs. may not remember the days of the electrostatic copiers(liquid & dry, special paper required) NOW they were CRAP !!!!!

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                          • sharpshiba

                            #43
                            E Studio 3511/4511

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                            • cboucher
                              • May 2025

                              #44
                              Mita Ai3030, especially when print system is installed.

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                              • JoeQ

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Aneurysm
                                Since this was my favorite queston posted, I will bring it up again,
                                Which copier was the biggest peice of crap ever? :evil:
                                Definitely Mita Analogs and first generation digitals like AI3030.
                                Toner dusting nightmares, but we stuck around long enough to see the new KM digitals. Now they are the Best.

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