Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

[leo34staffs]

Its got to be the 1224c, dev units always failing and all clutches tend to fail, i still pm loads of these machines and now require a transit van for all the parts they reqiure!

[JOEYSULLIVAN]

wow! i forgot about that model

this is an old machine but everyone i know who ever worked on one would say that the biggest piece of crap ever was a savin model 840, it was a small liquid copier that leaked, squeaked and streaked.

That was a pile O' Shite, And Ironicaly, the (model prior) Savin 770/780 (also liquid) was the Champ of reliability/speed! (Of that short time period) I rebuilt/sold a mountain of the 770/780 units, and vividly remember the caked up toner tanks and clogged toner ventri's, resulting in lite copies.

[JOEYSULLIVAN]

LMFAO! One call I'll never forget

What were people with a white carpet thinking?

Long Ago, (1980-ish) I did a service call on a Savin 770 which was a 45cpm dispersant/toner liquid copier. I carefuly took out the tank (almost a gallon of liquid in this 4" x16" x 8" D.V. section) and placed it on a desk covered with newspaper. Within 30 seconds the secretarie's sugar fueled kid (Its called Ritalin and daycare Lady) managed to scare the sleeping company Cat, who started screeching while jumping over to and skidding on the news paper covered desk knocking over the FULL tank of Ink, and toner bombing/staining the tan/white Cat, the NEW beige carpeting, chair, desk, walls, and CEILING within a 10' radius. My company paid for the cleaning bill to avoid the threat of a lawsuit. I will NEVER forget that day.

[lonls]

An oldie but baddie from high volume hell...

The Xerox 9210 was the biggest POS that I ever worked on. It had all the unique quirks of a regular 9200 (adh from hell, troubleshooting logic circuits down to the component, 50 bin sorters with flakey solenoids, lots of toner everywhere ) combined with the then new xl10 imaging system (an electrical noise generator from hell) and Xerox's (then) new soft roll fusing system (before the bugs were worked out of it, you know... like typed letters actually sliding off of forms created on the copier).

I have such fond memories of working on these filthy pig machines that also had daily (so it seemed) strange electrical noise problems... Xerox must have sold them cheap because they always seemed to end up in print shops run by cranky "type A"s... That was a match truly made in heaven.

[Copier]

The xerox 4000 vintage 1976.

[leroyal]

ANY Dennison or Saxon Copier.

Nobody here is that old!

[axyun]

Worst ever

The HP multifuntional inkjet suck more than Hoover + Electrolux.

The old Royal Copia 1 and Xerox 660(late 60s) were good for marshmellow roasting when paper caught fire.

the old Apeco Superstat and Rollamatic machines (late 60s) were good when the developer(dispersant) hose got clogged and you tried to blow it out or syphon(good to the last drop)
Frank/ActionPhotocopy

[leroyal]

No list would be complete without the SCM 1205 and 152.

[Dukem]

Keep 'em comin'

How about the Sharp SF-810, 811 & 820? Or the unfamous Konica color 7?
Sends shivers down my spine!!!

[copygeek]

Beyond doubt it was the Ricoh 4065. The tech service bulletins book was thicker than the service and parts manuals combined.

[mgarretson]

The Xerox 5318, 5322, 5328. If they weren't already bad enough, Xerox Re-released them in the retail stores. I don't remember the models but the code names were the Buffalo, and the Bison...LOL

[TennWalker]

I hated many of the Panasonic Genesis series machines. The upper fuser rollers would fail all the time due to poor fuser cleaning. Also, like others the Konica 1018 or 2020.

[axyun]

I am gonna date myself again. The "little monster" the Royfax 1400was a "Royal Pain"..

The Apeco Systematic oldie but not goodie.

The Olivetti copia 1 or 2 I am not sure which the rollfed paper went up about 3 stories before it entered the reservoir og toner/dispersant.

All worth mentioning are the Saxon 10, Canon NP200, Canon NP50, AB Dick 900(made by Minolta?), 3M Thermals, Toshiba BD702, Olivetti Copia 1000(very unique cold pressure machine---a classic like the Edsel).

The Sharp sf740/741 when the drum clamp would get mangled when customer changed master. I sold a lot of clamp assemblies.
Jim , I bet you probably knows all of these.
Happy Halloween Frank/ActionPhotocopy

[Suprtek]

Anyone remember the Savin 840? Savin's "liquid machine" answer to the small personal copiers of the era. Imagine a machine that is only about the size of an 18" cube and uses liquid toner that turns into a thick rubbery coating on every internal part. The only good thing about them was the satisfaction you got when launching them like a shot-put into the dumpster.

[axyun]

I completely forgot about that one. Some companies are still carrying the supplies for that.Frank/ActionPhotocopy