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  • copier tech
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    • Jan 2014
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    #31
    Re: Waste toner and toner related health issues. Toxicity etc

    Originally posted by Akitu
    As seen on Fox news, "Printer technicians getting high off powdered ink" "Sources report toner junkies are lining it up and snorting rails to get high, #tonertoblame?".
    Are you serious!? No wonder I enjoy this job, couldn't think why!!!

    who will be the first manufactuer to design a colour machine that has NO waste toner!? After all toner is so expensive & we're litterally throwing it away on a daily basis!
    Let us eat, drink, and be merry, because tomorrow we may die!

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    • Akitu
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      #32
      Re: Waste toner and toner related health issues. Toxicity etc

      Originally posted by copier tech
      Are you serious!? No wonder I enjoy this job, couldn't think why!!!

      who will be the first manufactuer to design a colour machine that has NO waste toner!? After all toner is so expensive & we're litterally throwing it away on a daily basis!
      I would think the solution would have to be something ridiculous, perhaps a Rube Goldberg machine that separates all the yellow, black, cyan and magenta toner and reinserts it into the DV unit.
      Cthulhu for president! Why settle for the lesser evil?

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      • fixthecopier
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        #33
        Re: Waste toner and toner related health issues. Toxicity etc

        This thread reminds me of one of my tales that I have posted at least twice before. The old Minolta Di520. It had a waste toner bin that would hold about 5 pounds worth. I would empty them into a trash bag. On one occasion, on the top floor of the Special Ops Command, I had emptied the bin, stood up, lifting the bag, and it happened. I can still see in slow motion as the bottom of the bag split and started to open and like a waterfall it all came out. As it hit the floor, it started walking out, in a cloud. When it got to the walls of the copy room, it started walking up the walls. I was there for over 2 hours with a trash can full of water, and a case of paper towels trying to clean it up. That was at least 10 or 11 years ago, and to this day, you can still see toner stains on the ceiling. Also, I double bag it now.

        I sometimes reference that when having a crappy day. It can be worse.
        The greatest enemy of knowledge isn't ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge. Stephen Hawking

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        • ZOOTECH
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          #34
          Re: Waste toner and toner related health issues. Toxicity etc

          Originally posted by Akitu
          I would think the solution would have to be something ridiculous, perhaps a Rube Goldberg machine that separates all the yellow, black, cyan and magenta toner and reinserts it into the DV unit.
          Wouldn't have to separate it, it would be 'processed black'?
          "You can't trust your eyes, if your mind is out of focus" --

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          • copier tech
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            #35
            Re: Waste toner and toner related health issues. Toxicity etc

            Originally posted by ZOOTECH
            Wouldn't have to separate it, it would be 'processed black'?
            Wow that spillage sounds nasty!

            The thing is ALL manufacturers provide DISPOSABLE waste toner boxes, so we should NEVER be empting them, if we are then is our fault, nowhere in service manuals does it say "empty" only "replace"
            After all WT boxes are so cheap?
            infact after reading this post the next "empty waste toner" call I get i'm simply going to order a new one & walk out! Remeber when asbestos was harmless!???
            Let us eat, drink, and be merry, because tomorrow we may die!

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            • Akitu
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              #36
              Re: Waste toner and toner related health issues. Toxicity etc

              Originally posted by ZOOTECH
              Wouldn't have to separate it, it would be 'processed black'?
              Theoretically yes, as long as the mix was perfect across the board, but all the waste toner I see tends to have strong magenta tinges to it giving it a puke brown/purple colour.
              Cthulhu for president! Why settle for the lesser evil?

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              • Lagonda
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                #37
                Re: Waste toner and toner related health issues. Toxicity etc

                Originally posted by copier tech
                .......... Remember when asbestos was harmless!???......
                There's nothing wrong with asbestos, a good coat of lead based paint will hold all those fibres together!
                At least 50% of IT is a solution looking for a problem.

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                • TheOwl
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                  #38
                  Re: Waste toner and toner related health issues. Toxicity etc

                  Originally posted by Lagonda
                  Or you get accused of being a Tasmanian.
                  Wrong kind of head...

                  I once had a customer who was all up in my face about toner being toxic, so I pulled some out of a toner bottle and ate it in front of her. Lets just say that she almost died of a panic attack when I did it and the fact the 5 years later, I still go in and fix their machine.
                  Please don't ask me for firmware or service manuals as refusal often offends.

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                  • copier tech
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                    #39
                    Re: Waste toner and toner related health issues. Toxicity etc

                    Originally posted by TheOwl
                    Wrong kind of head...

                    I once had a customer who was all up in my face about toner being toxic, so I pulled some out of a toner bottle and ate it in front of her. Lets just say that she almost died of a panic attack when I did it and the fact the 5 years later, I still go in and fix their machine.
                    You're joking right dude!?
                    Let us eat, drink, and be merry, because tomorrow we may die!

                    For all your firmware & service manual needs please visit us at:

                    www.copierfirmware.co.uk - www.printerfirmware.co.uk

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                    • Lagonda
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                      #40
                      Re: Waste toner and toner related health issues. Toxicity etc

                      Originally posted by TheOwl
                      Wrong kind of head...

                      I once had a customer who was all up in my face about toner being toxic, so I pulled some out of a toner bottle and ate it in front of her. Lets just say that she almost died of a panic attack when I did it and the fact the 5 years later, I still go in and fix their machine.
                      Which of your heads ate the toner?
                      At least 50% of IT is a solution looking for a problem.

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                      • TheOwl
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                        #41
                        Re: Waste toner and toner related health issues. Toxicity etc

                        Originally posted by Lagonda
                        Which of your heads ate the toner?

                        The one I think with, not the one to keep the missus happy obviously...
                        Please don't ask me for firmware or service manuals as refusal often offends.

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                        • Lagonda
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                          #42
                          Re: Waste toner and toner related health issues. Toxicity etc

                          You can keep your misses happy?? geez, that's an impressive trick!
                          At least 50% of IT is a solution looking for a problem.

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                          • TheOwl
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                            #43
                            Re: Waste toner and toner related health issues. Toxicity etc

                            Originally posted by Lagonda
                            You can keep your misses happy?? geez, that's an impressive trick!
                            Its a Tasmanian thing... lol
                            Please don't ask me for firmware or service manuals as refusal often offends.

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                            • slimslob
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                              #44
                              Re: Waste toner and toner related health issues. Toxicity etc

                              Originally posted by fixthecopier
                              This thread reminds me of one of my tales that I have posted at least twice before. The old Minolta Di520. It had a waste toner bin that would hold about 5 pounds worth. I would empty them into a trash bag. On one occasion, on the top floor of the Special Ops Command, I had emptied the bin, stood up, lifting the bag, and it happened. I can still see in slow motion as the bottom of the bag split and started to open and like a waterfall it all came out. As it hit the floor, it started walking out, in a cloud. When it got to the walls of the copy room, it started walking up the walls. I was there for over 2 hours with a trash can full of water, and a case of paper towels trying to clean it up. That was at least 10 or 11 years ago, and to this day, you can still see toner stains on the ceiling. Also, I double bag it now.

                              I sometimes reference that when having a crappy day. It can be worse.
                              Been there, done similar. Heavy gauge bag. Went to pick the bag up and it caught on the bottom corner of the machine.

                              Had a customer with a Gestetner 3502 one time who decided she needed to shake the toner bottle after removing the outer cap.

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                              • Tonerbomb
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                                #45
                                Re: Waste toner and toner related health issues. Toxicity etc

                                I remember back in the anal log (intentional) day's when John Q Public found out about ozone emissions from the copier!!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh what an office danger they thought that was....................................
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