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  • ManassasRalph
    Technician
    • Oct 2007
    • 18
    #1

    Downsizing

    Recently I sold my building and moved my shop into my home.

    I no longer need the two large machines I have (Xerox Versant 180 and Xerox D125).

    Looking for recommendations on newer replacement machines.

    My needs are fairly basice; 220V, fast machines (not desktop), don't need large capacity feeder/inserter, don't need receding stacker or booklet maker.

    Most of my work is 8 1/2 X 11, 11 X 17, full color flyers, labels, forms. B&W I do a lot of NCR (numbered and unnumbered), forms, labels.

    Most of my maintenace I do myself.

    Helpful suggestions welcome,

    Ralph

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    • allan
      RTFM!!

      5,000+ Posts
      • Apr 2010
      • 5459
      #2
      A used C558 or even better a C550i Konica Minolta come to mind if you are not planning on printing on tree stumps 240gsm plus. They are easy and cheap to maintain. On the other hand if you are looking for Impeccable print quality Canon does well. The Konica Minolta is a work horse on paper up to 160 GSM.

      The BizHub i serries machine use a lot less current to run than previous models.
      Whatever

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        • ManassasRalph
          Technician
          • Oct 2007
          • 18
          #3
          Allan, thank you.

          How does the C550i handle NCR? I run it by the case.

          Ralph

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            • Black Cloud
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              100+ Posts
              • Apr 2010
              • 129
              #4
              Originally posted by ManassasRalph
              Allan, thank you.

              How does the C550i handle NCR? I run it by the case.

              Ralph
              If you run NCR push it through a slow machine, We have a C650i and it friction feeds balls of NCR goo onto the transfer belt. Nasty to clean off and it is easy to damage the transfer belt trying. A slower machine would likely reduce the heat from friction and reduce the problem.
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                • allan
                  RTFM!!

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                  • Apr 2010
                  • 5459
                  #5
                  Originally posted by ManassasRalph
                  Allan, thank you.

                  How does the C550i handle NCR? I run it by the case.

                  Ralph
                  Sorry no experience with that. Just know color paper leaves lots of paper dust. If you can find high quality stock it should be fine. Running anything else that plain paper will have some kind of cost implication concerning maintenance.
                  Whatever

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                    • allan
                      RTFM!!

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                      • Apr 2010
                      • 5459
                      #6
                      Originally posted by Black Cloud

                      If you run NCR push it through a slow machine, We have a C650i and it friction feeds balls of NCR goo onto the transfer belt. Nasty to clean off and it is easy to damage the transfer belt trying. A slower machine would likely reduce the heat from friction and reduce the problem.
                      In that case running it as "Thick stock" could help. It slows down the machine some. The bypass does have a much larger feed contact area and should help in that case.
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                        • blackcat4866
                          Master Of The Obvious

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                          • Jul 2007
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                          #7
                          Originally posted by ManassasRalph
                          Allan, thank you.

                          How does the C550i handle NCR? I run it by the case.

                          Ralph
                          My best advice about NCR is "Don't". It does bad things to every machine that I have seen running it. Triples maintenance costs. I would not service such a machine.

                          If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                          1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                          2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                          3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                          4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                          5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                          blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=
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                            • vincent64
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                              250+ Posts
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 382
                              #8
                              Originally posted by blackcat4866

                              My best advice about NCR is "Don't". It does bad things to every machine that I have seen running it. Triples maintenance costs. I would not service such a machine.
                              I have been out of the business since 2020 thanks to covid, got back in for a few months, but the office was hour and half from home, was told would be working close to home, 30-40 miles or so, well it was not meant to be, to far to drive it seems like almost every day, and meetings once a week, and these folks could micro manage with the best of them, sorry got off track, what I was going for, its been a while, when I seen NCR paper in a copier, and Black Cats answer, I had a flash back, and a bit of shudders thinking of that stuff, wow, yes I agree, stay away from it.
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