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  • slimslob
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    #16
    Re: Access less secure Gmail apps

    Originally posted by clint@clintsimonsen.com
    I recommend that you start using a service like SMTP2go I'd also then recommend changing the customer a scanning fee of $ 5 a month.

    Sent from my ONEPLUS A6000 using Tapatalk
    The problem with SMPT2go is that too many spammers use it. When other email providers get more than a set number of spam reports coming from a single SMTP source, they block all emails from that source. It can take 2 to 32 weeks for that block to be removed.

    Charging a scanning fee to customers? You must enjoy losing customers.

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    • davel
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      #17
      Re: Access less secure Gmail apps

      Originally posted by clint@clintsimonsen.com
      I recommend that you start using a service like SMTP2go I'd also then recommend changing the customer a scanning fee of $ 5 a month.

      Sent from my ONEPLUS A6000 using Tapatalk
      The big companies are all trying to come up with a way to charge for scans.

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      • clint@clintsimonsen.com
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        #18
        Re: Access less secure Gmail apps

        Originally posted by slimslob
        The problem with SMPT2go is that too many spammers use it. When other email providers get more than a set number of spam reports coming from a single SMTP source, they block all emails from that source. It can take 2 to 32 weeks for that block to be removed.

        Charging a scanning fee to customers? You must enjoy losing customers.

        Charging for a service is what we do, the big company's are already billing a monthly scanning fee for wear to feed rollers and we all noticed that click rates are dropping volumes declining. customers would be paying for a email account for the machine anyway. this way they just pay for a product that works that you control and know how it works.

        I'm not loosing customers, and if I was did I want them?

        We've never had issues with smtp2go spam issues. but have mine configured correctly. knowing how many IP-address they have I'm surprised you've had issues.

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        • slimslob
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          #19
          Re: Access less secure Gmail apps

          Originally posted by clint@clintsimonsen.com
          We've never had issues with smtp2go spam issues. but have mine configured correctly. knowing how many IP-address they have I'm surprised you've had issues.
          I have never had a problem with SMTP2go because I have never had to use it. Others here on CTN have reported the problem in the past. I have always been able to get Gmail to work. The only exception has been with customers that had AT&T Uverse as their ISP and using the Motorola NVG510 modem. The Modem block all SMTP requests from devices that were not computers to SMTP servers that were not used by AT&T.

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          • sandmanmac
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            #20
            scanner@noreply.ca, rather than the actual admin email address - which is completely opposite of what one would expect .
            Once it's configured and working properly, it's extremely reliable. I've never had an issue with it.
            I will also add that SMTP2go can no longer be used with "free" email providers like Gmail, hotmail, etc, and most ISP providers, it must be configured via a clients domain email like abc@xyzcompany.com.
            I'm not sure when that actually happened, because I used to configure it without issue via Gmail, etc, and I actually have my own gmail account associated with an SMTP2go account that still works.
            Last edited by sandmanmac; 05-06-2020, 07:15 PM.

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            • copier tech
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              #21
              Re: Access less secure Gmail apps

              I was literally starting a new thread on this! so I will post anyway!.

              OK so this question has been asked a million times on this site however I have a NEW issue.

              I have a mysompany@gmail.commysompany@gmail.com
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              • copier tech
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                #22
                Re: Access less secure Gmail apps

                Originally posted by Bix
                Hi, Google recently seems to have removed the "Less secure app access" option.


                This is a problem for me especially with old printers (for example bizhub C364e). Scans now no longer work.


                Has anyone else noticed this?

                The "Allow Less Secure App" option is still there I just checked.

                Less Secure Apps.jpg
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                • slimslob
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                  #23
                  Re: Access less secure Gmail apps

                  Originally posted by copier tech
                  I was literally starting a new thread on this! so I will post anyway!.

                  OK so this question has been asked a million times on this site however I have a NEW issue.

                  I have a mysompany@gmail.commysompany@gmail.com
                  If you are using the restricted SMTP server aspmx.l.google.com, you may need to refer to the link I posted do one of the following:
                  I believe the IP address would the address of the public side of the router your device connects through.

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                  • copier tech
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                    #24
                    Re: Access less secure Gmail apps

                    Originally posted by sandmanmac
                    scanner@noreply.ca, rather than the actual admin email address - which is completely opposite of what one would expect .
                    Once it's configured and working properly, it's extremely reliable. I've never had an issue with it.
                    I will also add that SMTP2go can no longer be used with "free" email providers like Gmail, hotmail, etc, and most ISP providers, it must be configured via a clients domain email like abc@xyzcompany.com.
                    I'm not sure when that actually happened, because I used to configure it without issue via Gmail, etc, and I actually have my own gmail account associated with an SMTP2go account that still works.

                    This maybe the simple answer "I would also add that if you have a client with multiple MFP's, the same APP password can be used on all of them"
                    Let us eat, drink, and be merry, because tomorrow we may die!

                    For all your firmware & service manual needs please visit us at:

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                    • bsm2
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                      #25
                      Re: Access less secure Gmail apps

                      Originally posted by copier tech
                      I was literally starting a new thread on this! so I will post anyway!.

                      OK so this question has been asked a million times on this site however I have a NEW issue.

                      I have a mysompany@gmail.commysompany@gmail.com
                      Just how many emails can you send in Gmail at a time? The current Gmail email sending limit is 500 emails per 24 hours when sending from their web interface. It's important to note that this means 500 in any combination

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                      • diedux
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                        #26
                        Re: Access less secure Gmail apps

                        Originally posted by copier tech
                        The "Allow Less Secure App" option is still there I just checked.

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                        As soon as you configure 2-step verification - it's gone. And Yes, you can revert back to previous config.
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                        • NeoMatrix
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                          #27
                          Re: Access less secure Gmail apps

                          Options:
                          Why not forget about gmail altogether?

                          Every small business has an ISP. Use the small business local ISP email account for all MFD email settings.
                          Ask the small business IT to create a seperate MFD private email account on their own ISP server.
                          Use the private email for all MFD email send and recieving.
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                          • sandmanmac
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                            #28
                            Re: Access less secure Gmail apps

                            Originally posted by NeoMatrix
                            Options:
                            Why not forget about gmail altogether?

                            Every small business has an ISP. Use the small business local ISP email account for all MFD email settings.
                            Ask the small business IT to create a seperate MFD private email account on their own ISP server.
                            Use the private email for all MFD email send and recieving.
                            While all of this is true, many of the small businesses I deal with, very often don't have an IT other than me. Their eyes glaze over when I ask about their login credentials for their ISP in order to create an email address,, and they don't have time to look for it or figure it out and just want it working, and it's just easier to use the Gmail, Hotmail, or whatever address they may have.
                            However, having said that, and as I've pointed out in other similar threads, a Gmail account will log every single scan sent through it, including attachments, so privacy is zero, which is a no go for many businesses other than mom and pop type operations, unless a new one is setup and only the manager/ owner has the account credentials for it

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                            • copier tech
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                              #29
                              Re: Access less secure Gmail apps

                              Originally posted by sandmanmac
                              While all of this is true, many of the small businesses I deal with, very often don't have an IT other than me. Their eyes glaze over when I ask about their login credentials for their ISP in order to create an email address,, and they don't have time to look for it or figure it out and just want it working, and it's just easier to use the Gmail, Hotmail, or whatever address they may have.
                              However, having said that, and as I've pointed out in other similar threads, a Gmail account will log every single scan sent through it, including attachments, so privacy is zero, which is a no go for many businesses other than mom and pop type operations, unless a new one is setup and only the manager/ owner has the account credentials for it
                              Let us eat, drink, and be merry, because tomorrow we may die!

                              For all your firmware & service manual needs please visit us at:

                              www.copierfirmware.co.uk - www.printerfirmware.co.uk

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                              • Bix
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                                #30
                                Re: Access less secure Gmail apps

                                To make you understand, here in Germany there are companies that do not even have a fax. Send orders via the postman!
                                Many small (and unfortunately also large) companies don't even know what an IT Manager is. So we printer technicians often have to improvise.
                                In any case, congratulations on the tutorials! I will take inspiration from this thread again when Google deletes "less secure apps".

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